Londoner

Not interested in merchandising full stop, my involvement with games stops when i log off.

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Depends on the team set up.

Sometimes you get a team that flies through purps and reds like they were grey con.

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In which case you aint turned the mission into an epic.

Im talking about teams that insist on slogging their way through mobs they cant kill quickly but refuse to see the folly of it.

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People in general seem oblivious to this. The amount of times on PuGs we've been safely but slowly grinding through reds and purples. People never seem to grasp the idea that its faster to fly through whites, yellows and oranges and the XP rate is better, especially if you're AOE orientated.


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Yea iv never understood why people want to turn every mission into an epic if all they want is fast xp either.

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The way xp is distributed would be altered for the new system. If my level ten is sked by a 50 against a level 53 he would recieve the same xp as if he were faceing a +1 in a normal unsked mission.
The maximum xp an sked player could get would be relative to a +1.
So imagine he were in a mission of his own fighting plus ones and he recieved 50 xp for "defeating" a +1 minion. He's then invited to a level 50 mission againsts 50 and 53s.
He beats a 50 minion. He recieves.. 50,xp. He beats a 53 minion. He recieves .. 50 xp.

This is because, to prevent that kind of abuse and to keep the sk in the spirit in which is was intented (friends teaming across the levels)the game would be set to only allow the same xp as plus one.

So, it woulkd be impossible to get the xp for +4 or +5 therefore it would NOT be Plers paradise.


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You have missed the point again, under your system getting 50 xp is just great because you are getting it on 3,4,5,6,7 toons and at a fast rate.

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And as for oner 50 dealing with a map of 8 spawn, using 7 sked level 10s or 20s, you have to be really really good to do that and not have an untold number of deaths to the lower level (training io) players. Most people are nowhere near that standard.

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You underestimate people, and if its too much for 1 then get a mate or 2 mates if you really aint no good at playing.

That still leaves 5+ people getting PL'd far faster than you could do it now 1 at a time.

Yea i got him a lvl 35 and 2 lvl 42's.

What is "the plot" ?

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Ok. Last night 2 very interesting things happened. I was sked into a 8 team. I played off (after sk) against + 5s.
Now at level 25 myself. what real value did I add to the team?


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And what value do you think 7 lowbies sk'd to a 50 bring to a team?

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The level 1 guy finished the session at about level 8 I think.


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Now imagine that happening x7, a good half hours work.

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Now, both he and I exploited a loophole in the gaming system. The team didnt benefit from us. We benefitted from it.
And we';re both pleased about it but- should that opportunity be open to us? Isnt that kind of thing (and it goes on, understandably, all the time) against the spirit of the game?

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It dont matter if its in the spirit of the game, thats not the point, under your proposed plan it would be worse because being able to do it for 7 people out weighs the slight loss of xp.


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In my scenario, the worst case seenario that everyone is hitting me with, is being in a team against (scaled) + 1s getting xp relative to that.

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See above, you dont seem to understand the value of being able to PL 7 SEVEN people at the same time.

I can do the luck of the gambler recharges and the purples for you.

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Right click on them and add note.


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That way you can even give them a little back story too

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He wasn't there.

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Well it was your duty to turn the situation round as senior role player then! You should have nuked them all back

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Actually, I know it wasn't. From what I gather, the people doing it were actually RPers themselves, who really should have known better but just couldn't resist playing with their new toy and annoying the hell out of others. I never once said it was non-RPers griefing RPers...

It's actually quite sad really...

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You should have improvised and added it into the IC situation man, whats wrong with you

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Yes, the explosion power was, indeed, a no-brainer... i.e. it's a glorious roleplayer griefing tool which the developers have handed to every jackass who chooses to buy it. We can but hope the novelty wares off soon.

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I doubt that was the first thing that popped into everyones head ... oh i know lets go to d's and grief some role players.

You just given them the idea by mentioning it

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Well, you're very, very, very late, and you will be petitioned, with a comment to the GM that this was a known, planned action specifically intending to grief (see forum thread blah blah), if you do it while I'm there. So I'd suggest not.

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Sorry? I dont think i mentioned griefing you.

I said YOU had just given THEM as in the population in general the idea.

In the same way Mary Whitehouse used to manage to explode the viewing figures of the tv shows she used to moan about.

Most people couldnt give a monkeys about role playing role players or griefing them.

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If you'd been at Galaxy Girl last night, you'd have seen.

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Oh i see, that area is solely for role players is it?

You dont think it might have been people just going to a populated area to show off a new toy, bit of harmless fun, they were in mercy too.

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Yes, the explosion power was, indeed, a no-brainer... i.e. it's a glorious roleplayer griefing tool which the developers have handed to every jackass who chooses to buy it. We can but hope the novelty wares off soon.

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I doubt that was the first thing that popped into everyones head ... oh i know lets go to d's and grief some role players.

You just given them the idea by mentioning it

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Hmmm. Will the /sync command resolve it?

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Didnt work for me, i tried that once i was in the reclimator in base after blowing myself up.

I was alive but still invisible and unable to move, then /sync moved me out of the med bay but i was still invisible and unable to move.

The other time i got no option to go to base or hospital and i just logged off and on then as i didnt have a wakie and couldnt activate any power including Oroborous portal.

Its that pair of nutters on Big Cook Little Cook that want self destructing, never mind Igglepiggle.

Another thought occured to me, do you have to be lvl 30 and done the aura mission to have access to these auras?

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Not a PL mogul but I was always under the impression that speed and ease trumped High "single numbers" as well. i.e. a couple of 50's can quickly and repeatedly clear a farming mission much quicker than a team of 16's could clear one of their missions therefore even if they are only +1's to the 16 they're gonna drop so much quicker and xp/min is going to be higher..


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Thats right, then add in the fact that under Lions's scheme you can do that for 7 of your friends or 5 or even 3 at the same time and that is the PL'ing hole in the plan.

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Ok. Hunour me here cause maybe im missing something. Lets say I am level 15 and do a mission with 7 team mates and we fight level 16s.

Lets say purely for the sake of argument I end up (no debt) with 3000 xp points as a result.

So after i drop the team I get an invite with a level 50 team. Against level 53s.

the game will only grant me aprox 3,000 xp because it will treat the 53 as if they were 16s for xp purposes.

So how can you power level on that basis? Am i missing something?

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Ok, i dont know the numbers but here goes.

You do your mission with your own level team and get 3000xp, at the moment if you then join a lvl 50 team, get sk'd to a 50 and fight 53 mobs you will end up with 4000xp.


Under your new scheme you can power level 7 lvl 15s and get them all 3000 xp.

So if your running your PL company (or just got a few chars/mates that need PL'ing) what would you rather have?

1 customer getting 4000 xp per mission or 7 customers getting 3000 xp?

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Can you see a PLing hole in that?

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Yep, thats what you get now more or less sk'd to a 50, dont forget the majority of pl'ing teams aint got a handy bridge.

And that aside under your system you can PL 7 at a time, so that by far out weighs the slight xp disadvantage.

Hang on a minute....iv just blown me self up and got no option to go hospital or base!

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Patience ... it's imminent . I have various pages waiting for me to push buttons to put the news live on the sites

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Stop posting and start pushing

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You wouldnt be able to powerlevel if this system were implemented. Can I be any clearer than that?

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How would you not be able to power level with your system?

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What would be the point of going to an auto sked mission to power level if the most xp you would get would be 1 levels worth of xp above what you get if you fight an even levelled con now?

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Thats about all you get now with a sk give or take, the flaw with your plan is the 1 fire / kin or whatever and 7 lowbies possibility.

So the small loss in xp would be well and truely out weighed by being able to PL more than 1 at a time.

Not that i think it's a bad plan personaly, but a lot of people on here still like telling others how to play.

Thats why in my opinion it didnt get a great reception,that and the fact you have had the odd argument on here too aint you

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To be fair the jetpack was pester-requested in the US as it was included with a retail item and others wanted access to it.
I don't think it appeared over here (I've never seen any flying around). If those who clamoured for it want to spend $8.99 on a power that only lasts 30 days, *shrugs* that's their problem.


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I doubt they pester requested to pay for it every month, that will have been some bright sparks idea in marketing.