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Quote:I'm pretty sure this is sarcasm, but...
Another question I have is since certain vets will be screwed out of the city traveller now that travel is available at lvl 4 what do we receive in place of the city traveller reward? Oh please more chest emblems that never get used like the Greek symbol!!!!
Don't be greedy. City Traveler was not the only reward at 60 months, you also received a character slot and 5 Reward Merits. From what I understand, some of the lower level unlocks are things like Path Auras, so City Traveler will be replaced by some or all of the new things on the Paragon Rewards table. -
Quote:If you really are in Florida, I want your time machine. It's Friday.Okay I've recently returned to COH after a long absence. I bought Going Rogue, made a new character, headed to Praetoria. On the Virtue server. And there is no one there on a Saturday afternoon. What gives? A whole new reality to explore and no ones interested?
Praetoria is kind of an odd duck. It is the new(est, until Freedom) starting zone with lots of new tech and great stories, but it really isn't team friendly. If you team, it is far too easy to outlevel those stories AND miss the moral choice missions. When I team with a character in Praetoria, I turn off my XP.
In addition to this, depending on how long you have been gone, street sweeping is a thing of the past. Most of the content is geared towards the instanced missions, so you rarely see people out in the world unless they are shopping, leveling or going from one mission to the other. Praetoria also has no "gathering spot" like the Atlas statue or the market in Cap au Diable, so people who are interested in doing so don't really have a place to congregate in Praetoria. With no stories past level 20 (yet), there is no incentive for higher level characters to hang out in Praetoria, and no reason for Praetorians who have passed level 20 to stay.
My advice; build a character in Praetoria if you want to experience some really cool stories or quickly level up a villain or hero AT to play in the other side's sandbox. If you want to socialize more, start the character in Paragon City or the Rogue Isles. -
Quote:This is exactly the attitude I am talking about. There are people genuinely trying to help you, and you are doing everything in your power to make them not want to help you any more.Your right and I'm wrong so I'm leaving....do you feel better now?
What other questions do you want to ask me now?
The game was fun at sub 50, okay?
Even I was trying to help you, though it may not have appeared so because I was also being critical of you. I simply pointed out that you have a bad reputation in the community. I would like to help you repair that reputation. I don't want you to leave.
Criticism does not equal scorn, and there would be a lot more "GTFO" and "lrn2playnub" in this thread if we wanted to see you gone.
By sub 50, did you mean that the game was fun up until you reached 50 months subscribed (of your 65), or that the game was fun when you were playing characters below level 50?
If the former, then maybe it is time to take a break and do something else for a change. We'll leave the light on for you, and more than a few people will probably greet you warmly the next time you walk through that door.
If the latter, then I need to ask: Why in the world are you wasting so much time grinding trials with your 50s? Why are you rushing through the "fun levels" in order to get to 50? Almost seven years in the game, and I have well over 150 alts spread across 14 servers (I haven't made any alts on Zukunft or Defiance yet, and it may be a while after Freedom launches before I make anyone on the FREEEM server). All those characters, and I only have two 50s, because I have fun playing the sub 50 game.
When you return, feel free to hit me up and I'll give you some tips about how I keep the game fresh and fun for me no matter which alt or level I am playing. If my methods work out for you, that would be awesome. -
Quote:I don't know if you have noticed, but players help other players here all the time with no more expectation than a simple thank you.I know why you asked...
Can I ask you a question? If "official support" couldn't fix it why do you think you can? If your not even paid by NCSOFT, why do you care? I find your attempts insincere.
You, personally, have received less helpful responses largely due to the fact that you usually begin with an incorrect assumption, and, rather than accepting that you might have made a mistake with a little bit of grace when someone corrects you, you usually respond with an attitude.
After a while, your pattern of behavior was noted, and people began responding to anything you posted as if your attitude was in the forefront in every post. It may not be fair, but that is what happens when you build a bad reputation for yourself in the community. The only way to repair that reputation is to consistently show that you have changed.
As you have already given up on this community, I think it unlikely that you will do so, but stranger things have happened.
Quote:If you can't view my tickets, we can't really have a meaningful conversation can we now? Thanks for reminding me about the indirect reason I quit.
There are people here who genuinely want to help you, but you need to let them do that if it is going to happen. Telling them to look up your tickets, even if they could, is not helping them help you. That is you asking them to do all of the legwork while you reap the fruits of their labor. You already noted that they would be volunteers. The only payment they receive from helping people with their tech problems is the knowledge of a job well done, and maybe a "Thank you."
There is a saying, "The Lord helps those who help themselves." The Lord has placed people in your path who might be able to help you (Ironblade and Texas Justice), but the only way they even stand a chance to do so is if you provide them the information they need. By helping them, you help yourself. -
Quote:Feh!... or be patient and use the "Thanks for being subscribed" stipend.
It may be an option, and a wise use of resources.
But I fully expect the Paragon Store to contain enough cool stuff that I will find hanging on to my Paragon Points VERY difficult. Besides, powersets are my kryptonite. I already have names camped and costumes made for a Psy Blast Corrupter, Thugs / Sonic Mastermind, Beam Gun Defender, Dual Pistols / Time Corrupter, Street Justice Scrapper, Plant / Poison Controller.
And I am darned happy about it. If the Paragon Store enables us to have a higher concentration of pure awesome than what we have already come to expect from our Devs, bring it on! -
Quote:DC Comics (thanks to Time Warner) and Marvel Comics (thanks to Disney) have much deeper wallets than Comico or Dark Horse comics.Came up with a concept for a character and tried to create it however the name is coming up as invalid (TBH I expected it to be taken). Question is not what does this mean, but why is a name from classical Greek Legend invalid?
I can see she is also a character in the Sandman comics, but how do a comic publisher copyright a character that has been in the public domain for thousands of years?
Further more if they can. How come other legendary characters that have also been 'stolen' by comic writers are allowed... some even used in the game? Eg Grendel
It is in NCSoft's best interest to avoid any chance of a lawsuit funded by Disney or Time Warner money, so names used by characters appearing in comics by a subsidiary of either mega-corporation are strictly verboten. -
Quote:Actually, it looks like the City Traveler benefit will not be available via the Paragon Rewards program.October is a long way away and I don't think it's difficult to flip a switch and go F2P. I completely assume that Freedom will hit in between mid August and mid September. Maybe I'm wrong... but... this badge to me is the most important badge in the game to have. Sure air superiority is nice. Sure combat jumping is nice. Sure all the powers are 'nice'.... yet, having a travel power at 6 and being able to skip right to it... can't really be topped.
Just out of curiosity then, does that mean no one will get City Traveller? Could've swore they said you keep your current vet rewards, so if you have it I think for the rest of CoX's lifespan only those who have it by Freedom's release date will be the only ones to ever have it?
Reports coming in from folks demoing Freedom at Comic-Con are that travel powers unlock for everyone at level 4, and that the travel pools now have an extra power that unlocks later. -
Quote:Most of my characters could probably do what they do independent of the established storyline. I could easily come up with alternate stories and enemies they could be fighting instead of Arachnos or the Legacy Chain.I'm seeing some very interesting replies so far, and it's confirming what I suspected - most people integrate their characters into the story to a greater extent than I do. It's a bit surprising that so many make standalone characters that don't directly relate to City of Heroes, though. That I hadn't expected.
Let's see if I can't refine the question a tad:
If you completely ignored the game's plot, would your characters and their actions still make sense in the game's existing setting?
I don't do this, however, so that I can stay involved in and engaged in the missions I am playing. The first character I run any new content with has their story adjusted to fit the new content. Once I know the story and how it turns out, I only run characters who would care about that particular plot through that story.
By keeping their stories tied to the game world, and taking my characters' motivations into account, I keep the game fresh for me after seven years and 150+ alts (with more on the way, CURSE YOU I21!!!!).
Quote:If a piece of story required your character to feel a certain way or perform a certain action that goes against their concept, what would you do about it?
I have some fairly generic heroes and villains. I try to run through new content with them first, as there is less chance I will be blindsided with a twist after I have begun the arc. I wish I had done Willy Wheeler's arc the first time with a different villain than Black IC. I figured out that Willy was a dupe who was working for a hero by the end of the second mission. Black IC would have turned Willy over to Arachnos then and there (or killed him). Instead, I had to do some mental gymnastics to explain why Black IC continued to play along (she did contact Arachnos, and was hired by them to continue on and see how deep it went and determine if Arachnos was being betrayed from within or if it was an outside agent). -
It all depends on the character.
Some are intimately tied to the story, while others couldn't care less.
For example, I have five characters who are "loyal" Praetorians (one, Over Seer, is actually very deep cover for the Resistance). They deeply care about the Praetorian storyline, but now that they are on Primal Earth, I am needing to do some mental gymnastics to explain what they are doing in Paragon City until Cole's invasion when they rejoin his forces and betray Paragon City.
I have other characters whose concepts required them to be heroes with villain archetypes, so they sped through Praetoria so they could be part of the story of Paragon City like they were supposed to be (I may reroll Lady Warhawk with I21, as I haven't had the chance to get her out of Praetoria yet and Street Justice may be the set she is looking for).
With all of my characters, it is really their personal stories I am concerned about, and I tend to pick the missions and content that would appeal to them. I have the hardest time of this with Villains, because most of the contacts treat you like a lackey, and most of my villains wouldn't stand for that. Many of the new villain contacts, who either treat you as an equal or grovel at your feet, are a step in the right direction (there are other problems, though, like many of my characters have no desire to see themselves cloned once, much less create a clone army of themselves). -
Quote:That would be Newsrama's "wishlist" of stories they want to see folded into the new DCU.game over...
I think that sums up how i feel about DC at this point. They've lost the path and they don't see the cliff they're walking straight towards.
The only ones of those I actually see any chance of being folded in are the Books of Magic, Milestone and maybe the Golden Age (as part of the secret history of the nDCU).
The rest, highly unlikely. (They even point out how unlikely it is that Watchmen will be folded into the nDCU) -
Quote:Way to overreact to a few people who were teasing you.If I really cared could I do this?
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I don't need to wait for City of Heroes Freedom. I just earned "Freedom" all by myself!!!
You did receive some actual encouragement from some people in this thread, but you seem to have chosen to ignore it and focus on the negative.
Here's hoping that you take a break, but decide not to stay away forever.
When you come back, I advise you to seek out some build advice in the Controller sections of the forums. Those Controllers that you felt were unable to contribute to the content you wanted to do will improve by orders of magnitude and become valuable additions to any team if you take the time to learn to slot them properly.
Good luck wherever you land, come back soon. :tiphat: -
Quote:I absolutely love how people trot these out whenever attempting to defend some half baked suggestion that obviously doesn't take into account the basic design philosophy of the game or the amount of work it would take to implement.Just like Power Customization ISN'T going to happen. Just like inherent Fitness, ISN'T going to happen.
This suggestion falls into both categories. It would take an incredible amount of work to implement, likely sucking up the powers team time for two issues or more (Power Customization took BABs and team almost a year to complete, and we still don't have customization for Power Pools almost two years later)
It would also take a shift in philosophy on the Dev team. Freeform selection was in the alpha versions of this game, and was ultimately nixed as it was far too easy to create both unplayable characters and overpowered characters. The AT system and current power structure which have served the game for the last seven years are a direct result of the Dev team scrapping the freeform system. Inherent Stamina was a philosophy shift, true, but not one that could have led to breaking the game.
In order for this suggestion to be even considered, they would have to commit the powers team to a large amount of work (possibly sidelining all of the new powersets they are currently working on) and there would need to be a major philosophical shift among the Dev team. -
Quote:Why are you managing multiple supergroups?I'm just sad right now. Leave me alone....they need to give us a master respec for this game. What diffference does it make if I reroll my character as long as I'm in the game playing? I'm tired of managing all of these SGs on all of my characters. Also, I can't build super wealth because my stuffs spread out.
Managing one supergroup would seem too much like work for me (I play to have fun, not because I want a second job). I am totally content being a member of a supergroup, I feel no urge to lead any of them.
Why do you need "super wealth?"
The game was not made harder to accommodate IOs. You do not need them to play, or even to have a character that performs at high levels. If you want to have a testament to this, it lies in the characters you are playing right now. You are operating under some incorrect assumptions about the way the game works, and as a result, have made some characters that others might consider "gimped."
Yet those characters are working for you, and you are able to run the most difficult content in the game with "gimped" characters. Imagine how playable those Controllers you think can't do their job would be if you took some basic advice from the Controller forums. I'm willing to bet that they can help you improve the performance of those characters by orders of magnitude without heavy or expensive IO slotting
Quote:I have hard thinking to do. Your right about my build though. I will be respecing soon since I can't get time manipulation. My controller gets her life "time manipulated" even though she doesn't have access to time manipulation. Where do I go from here? -
Quote:At least they haven't gone back to five variant cover, holofoil, polybagged with trading cards, "Pulse Pounding First Issue(s)" again.Just saw the Flashpoint "checklist" in Batgirl #22. There's 37 books on it JUST for July and August. THAT is what people are tired of and why sales are dropping. At a conservative $3 per book, you're looking at $111 JUST for the Flashpoint "epic" for those two months. That's ridiculous.
The 90s almost killed comics. Vast crossover events and producing for the comics investor, rather than the comics reader were the things that almost did them in in the 90s. They have backslid on the crossover events, here's hoping they don't forget about the reader in the process and kill comics for good. -
Quote:Presumably, you are in Powers Division, which puts you firmly in Cole's grasp (at least, at level 1).That's 21 levels of a magic hero/villain I shouldn't have been able to make.
If you join the Resistance at the end of the tutorial, presumably they shield you the same way they shield everyone else. -
Quote:It looks like he took the images off the host.Maaaan, those Rx10 links won't open for me. I was really looking forward to seeing what he thinks is a "good build," too.
Whether that be to prevent further criticism of his builds or because he decided to take his ball and go home, I'll leave that to your imagination. -
Quote:As much as I hate to see a fellow CoH'er leave the game, if the above is how you feel about playing the game, it is probably best if you take a break for a while.I'll be leaving soon..I can't keeping grinding new archetypes every semester. I'll level these I have existing now and pull the plug.
You should play a game because it is FUN, not because you feel compelled to grind away.
I have 160+ characters, only 2 50s, and will play any and all of them at the drop of a hat. When the new powersets and Proliferations come out with Issue 21, I will be adding at least ten characters to that roster, and deleting and re-rolling 5 of them because a new or Proliferated set is closer to the original character concept.
For example, Texas Hold Up is currently a Dual Pistols / Kinetics Corrupter. His story is that he is a time traveler from the future who went back to the Wild West to live a life of crime. The law eventually caught up to him at his hideout, so he activated his time machine to go back to the future. The sheriff shot the machine while he was in transit, and it deposited THU halfway home, in modern day Paragon City. I chose Kinetics because it was the closest thing I could refluff into a Time Travel set. With Time Manipulation on the horizon, Texas Hold Up will finally have the sets he should have had from the beginning.
Seven years later, making and playing characters with their personal stories in mind has kept the game fresh for me, and not a grind. When, if ever, it feels like a grind is when I will decide to take a break. -
Quote:I despise multi title crossover events as much as you do. They tend to break the flow of the story in every book they touch. Given your feelings towards the multitude of changes in Batman, Superman and Flash over the last 25 years, why isn't this relaunch a good thing? Doesn't the fact that we will know which "phases" were important and which weren't mark an improvement?Lightfoot,
I concede the point on reboots, but I guarantee you from my perspective I've walked into stores over the last few years and I've lost track over the multiple changes of Batmen, Supermen and Flashes to the point where I never felt I could even remotely get on board as a casual reader. From Identity Crisis to Infinite Crisis to Final Crisis, DC didn't seem like they could stop having big multi-title crossover events to the point I frankly lost interest even as a semi-casual reader.
Quote:Regarding Zero Hour or Flashpoint, you're putting words in my mouth by inference. If I had a point to make about Flashpoint, I would've made it. I didn't read Flashpoint, therefore I don't have an opinion to offer on it. Done.
Quote:What's your point about Donna Troy? Are you just arguing that in your opinion 'Who is Donna Troy?' wasn't well-recieved, it's what...justification for removing her entirely? I don't know what to say there.
The point is that you are making judgments and condemning something before you have even seen it. When the story comes out, and if it sucks, feel free to condemn it all you want.
Quote:1938: Are you just being facetious? I'm saying DC has a rich history to draw upon. Period. You want to play some semantic game that I obviously don't know the rules of here.
Again. Why was it acceptable to cherry pick then, but it is not acceptable to cherry pick now?
Quote:Nothing is permanent in comics: you know this, I know this. They do these things because the readership is largely cyclical and long-term collectors are a minority of their market.
Quote:I've responded to your points as politely as I feel I can to you, but instead of having a discussion, you're reactionary and almost spoiling for a fight.
You're welcome to rant or argue or make whatever point you'd care to if you choose to reply. But if I wanted a sparring partner, I'd go box in a gym. You've clearly chosen to be argumentative with more people than just myself in this thread, and you're welcome to continue to do so, just not with me. -
Quote:Funny. I count four DC reboots, ever, including Crisis on Infinite Earths.Lightfoot,
I think you're really missing the point here. Reboots are now commonplace within comics, and they've happened for DC at least three times now inside of ten years as opposed to the one singular reboot with the original Crisis after fifty years of continuity that was deservingly needed to be overhauled.
Crisis in 1985-86, Zero Hour in 1994, Infinite Crisis in 2005, and Flashpoint in 2011.
Quote:Yes, those stories you mentioned are still there to be read, but any good comic book history needs just that, history. If the continuity DC wishes to employ is cherry-picked from various eras of the last twenty or thirty years, then you by extension invalidate other eras of the same continuity. The examples given in another thread where they go over ten titles and point out very valid questions to be asked are just that, very valid.
Quote:For example, retconning the New Teen Titans run not only calls aspects of Dick Grayson's origin as Nightwing into question, but also the formation of the Titans to begin with by removing Donna Troy, as it seems they're planning to do.
Quote:The new continuity is haphazard at best; when the original Crisis took place, there was a unified approach to a unified DC Universe, with mutually agreed origins across the titles to ensure that the story held together. That unfortunately fell apart and 'necessitated' the woeful Parallax storyline.
Quote:And this is really the crux; DC has a very rich tapestry and history to draw upon going back to 1938.
Quote:The Justice League really doesn't have a context without a Justice Society that came before it.
Quote:And Durakken's absolutely right in that the writers are just avoiding anything they don't want to write themselves; good writers either deconstruct or build upon what writers have done before them. One can't advocate a reboot of a title just because a creative team leaves a book, but DC is doing this wholesale and invalidating entire storylines, some of which have only taken place in the last two years, let alone the last twenty. )? I have no doubt that there will be some writers that rehash old stories and do it poorly. I also have no doubt that there will be some writers who have original and entertaining takes on them as well. I won't know which is which until the books hit the shelves.
Quote:And Geoff Johns is responsible for not only Final Crisis, but the Superboy-Prime storyline, which he himself has come out and said was a mistake. Turning the character into a venting mouthpiece and a chariacture of 'rabid' old-school fans alienated readers, not just those who he aimed his self-conscious diatribes at. If the Modern Age was functioning remotely well, then we wouldn't have the figures of nearly one-third of their titles selling so badly they're almost costing the company a loss to make than they are any sort of profit.
Quote:Geoff Johns is not the wunderkind of DC Comics that many would wish to portray him as; I spoke to at least one DC artist three years ago and was told point-blank that many at DC didn't care for the lack of understanding he had of their characters. Yes, this is an anecdotal story without any proof, but I form some of my opinion on that basis.
Quote:In short, you can't pick and choose your continuity 'just because', and that is really what DC is doing. That's not clever editorial control, it's going to cause them even more headaches in the medium term as they discover that they're creating contradictions from the get-go in their new continuity, and ultimately, it won't stick. Every single time something like this has been tried, casual readers will ask 'Why doesn't Superman look like Superman?' or 'Isn't Bruce Wayne Batman? Who's this guy in the armor?' and they go back to the status quo. And the status quo is necessary for one word: continuity.
S.
If they can stick to their guns, they can establish a new status quo.
I hope they can do it, and not cave in and do a stupid "DC Universe: Reborn" event that puts everything back in the same stagnant place it was five years ago. -
Quote:So you want them to handle the post-Flashpoint DCU that same way they handled post-Crisis? Assume every character is unchanged until they decide to publish a new book with the "new and improved" version of the character? And create even more continuity problems, until some writer gets fed up enough about it to create their own incredibly complex story to explain the paradoxes (see: Power Girl, Hawkman, Legion of Super Heroes, Donna Troy, Doom Patrol (and Beast Boy), "the Speed Force," Huntress, Infinity Inc., JLA: Year One, etc.)? Until the ripple effect creates the need for another "reboot" event (Zero Hour, Infinite Crisis, etc.)?And here's another little trope that gets to me too.
"Oh, you don't like this new thing? That's just nerd-rage. You can't possibly be making an objective and reasonable decision. It's new; you don't like it; so you MUST be nerd-raging."
I mean, you realize this is 'One More Day' applied to an entire universe. DC keeps talking about reboots and the "New DCU" that will take care of all those pesky continuity problems that prevent new readers from getting into comics.
Except that it fixes nothing. Yeah, it's the new DCU; except that SOME of the stuff still happened. So now, instead of a new reader simply getting on Wikipedia or grabbing one of the 'Essential' trade collections from the library; they have to do in depth research to find out what history still counts.
Plus they took awesome Harley Quinn and stuck her in an idiotic looking corset with punk-rock dyed hair and knives!!
EDGY!!!
I'm not angry because DC is making a new continuity. I'm angry because it's unnecessary. Everything they talked about fixing (streamlined history, tighter universe cohesion, writing for the story and not the trade) could have been implemented without this "reboot".
What we have going on right now is exactly what DC should have done after Crisis on Infinite Earths; restart continuity and relaunch all of their books. Not just that, but do it with a plan and with every writer on the same page. Except that no one at DC at the time had the guts to do it. DC is taking the incredible risk now that they should have taken in 1986.
More power to 'em. I just wish someone at Marvel had the same kind of intestinal fortitude.
Make mine DC!
(For the record, I hate Harley Quinn's new look, too. I'm willing to deal with it for a new Suicide Squad book. Who knows? Maybe it will grow on me. I'll never know if I never give it a chance.) -
Quote:So if it isn't Frank Miller's Batman from Year One, it won't be your Batman?The problem isn't so much that they are changing things, as that's basically what happens every month, but rather the why and the how that pisses me off.
I like Batman. Let me correct myself. I like modern age Batman. I like the modern age, as go I think most people... or at least the majority of people like the majority of the modern age.
And I don't have a problem with the modern age coming to an end or them rebooting. What I have a problem with is that they are doing it stupidly and not all that well from what I can tell and they aren't ending the stories so much as just not writing them any more because they don't seem to be able to figure out how to any more for a few characters or some idiot doesn't want to write anything they didn't create from the ground up.
If read Batman after this relaunch it is not the character I like. It is not the character that I wanted to support by getting this book. There is no attachment because this isn't the same character and I don't care to read what happens to that new character that has the same name.
Maybe I will like these new characters, but I don't see why I would. They're bastardizations of the characters I like with incomplete histories so every time I read them I will be thinking this character sucks bring back my character or that rocks, that would have worked well with my character.
I think that if they really wanted to do something like this they should have canceled a lot of the worse books, streamlining the ones they already have, and then launch an Ultimate line up that has Batman at it's center rather than Superman. I never really did get how Superman is all hat inspirational... He's got a lot of powers, that's not something that makes me go "If he can do it I can too," but Batman, having people say that about him, that makes sense. I'd also kill a number of Batman books, as much as I love them...please stop.
OH and the reason you don't hear much about when they did it to Wonder Woman 50 times is because it's happened so many times and noone cares and those who do don't stand out enough because there is 60 other titles... it's kinda like the whole, when they did it to george you were silent, when they did it to judie you were silent, now that it's happening to you want me to help you? Not going to happen.
From what I've been reading, the Batman coming out will be a lot closer to Frank Miller's Batman than it will be to Bob Kane's, Bill Finger's, Adam West's, Tim Burton's, Joel Schumacher's or even Christopher Nolan's Batman.
And my current attitude is very much the one you describe. When they did it to Donna Troy, you were silent. When they did it to Power Girl, you were silent. When they did it to Hawkman, you were silent. When they did it to Hal Jordan, you were silent. When they did it to Wonder Woman, you were silent. Now they are doing it to Batman, you want me to stand up and be counted with you? No, it is not going to happen. You want me to protest because they finally dare to touch an icon. I say that 25 years and thousands of comic books later, it is about damned time.
Geoff Johns has a great attention to detail and he plans years in advance. I have no doubt that the core of the character will be preserved and that the great majority of important points of character growth and development since 1939 have either been accounted for or plotted out for a revision. I have met the man. Trust me when I tell you that he is a bigger comic book geek than you or I will ever be, and that he loves these characters at least as much as we do. -
Quote:I'm sorry that someone pointing out the ridiculousness of "They changed it, now it sucks and it is Ruined Forever" throws you into a murderous rage.Every time I read this catchphrase, I wanna stab something soft with an icepick.
If modifications to the character's history such as Batman no longer being a vigilante killer or Hal Jordan being an alcoholic or the plethora of revisions that Wonder Woman, Donna Troy, Power Girl or Hawkman have been through are acceptable, why is this such a travesty? DC is finally doing this with a unified plan and all of the writers on board, things that were sorely lacking after Crisis on Infinite Earths. -
(SuperOz, I may be quoting you, but the following is directed at lots of other people besides yourself)
What a bunch of drama queens. Time to get over yourselves people. These are fictional characters that you are getting your panties in a bunch about. Fictional characters who, if you take the time to work it out, should be geriatric and have had more than enough experiences to fill several lifetimes.
I love comics, and I have always preferred DC over Marvel (in general, there is a soft spot in my heart for the X-Men). When I was a child, my heroes and role models used to be baseball players. After two strikes in three years, I realized that my heroes were in it only for the money, an not the love of the game, so I needed to find new role models. Superman, Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) and Nightwing became my new heroes (I loved Batman, too, but I never wanted to be him).
Was I a little leery of the relaunch when I heard about it? Of course I was. Then I came to a few realizations.
Quote:All those great stories are still there to be read. The Wolfman / Perez Titans were some of the greatest comics I ever read. Even after the relaunch, this will still be true. Even if Cyborg doesn't remember the Judas Contract, I will.I have to walk away from my support totally of DC Comics if they're undoing the very run that brought me into comics as a teenager in New Teen Titans. The Wolfman/Perez run was intelligent, mature, enthralling comics. Perez blossomed as both an artist and a writer on this book. Wolfman wrote probably some of the best stories of his entire career.
Quote:And then they want to undo the original Crisis? Undo the sacrifice of Barry Allen and Kara Zor-El?
Quote:Way to spit in my face, DC Comics. Way to divest yourself of history that you used to be proud of.
Stories that are important to the character will either still be part of their history, or they will be retold to fit in with the modern day (and for everyone who gets up in arms about this, may I point you to Green Lantern: Emerald Dawn). If the characters are not allowed to age, then, every so often, they need to be re-imagined. Otherwise, Batman would still be a gun-toting vigilante who was little better than the criminals he murdered and Superman would still be using his fantastic powers to mash mobsters with little thought of restraint or regard for the injuries he caused them.
What is happening is not so different from what happened after Crisis on Infinite Earths or Zero Hour. The real difference is that DC actually has the balls to do it right this time, and have the new reality affect the entire line of books, rather than doing it piecemeal like they did after Crisis (remember the mess that was Hawkman after Crisis, or even the story gymnastics that needed to happen with the Wonder Woman reboot, such as the "Who is Donna Troy" storyline.)
Nothing can take away the stories you loved reading in the past. If you give them the chance, maybe they can tell some great stories in the future. The right person is helming this new direction. If you want proof that Geoff Johns knows how to drag a character into the modern day while still honoring the character's past, just look to his runs on Flash, Green Lantern and JSA. I feel secure in the knowledge that the core of each character will remain, even if the details of their past have changed. -
If Freedom and Virtue were turned into VIP servers, what happens to returning players who had created characters of Freedom and Virtue before they let their subscriptions lapse.
If part of the CoH: Freedom spiel to lure returning players back to the game is that they will be able to access their old characters, then turning one of the existing servers into a VIP server runs counter to this intent. -
Quote:The face is composed of parts from two different Booster Packs.The skull...I can't figure out what it is. I've tried "Bonehead", "Grin", and "Skull" but none of them seem to match. The eye sockets are all wrong. What am I missing?
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Using Full Mask as your Head type (you need to not have hair in order for the Death Goggles to cover the back of your head and to get the Crystal Crown detail).
The Face appears to be "Alien."
Detail 1 is the "Crystal Crown"
Detail 2 is the "Death Goggles" from the Science Pack.
Detail 3 is "Warrior Half" from the Martial Arts / Natural Booster Pack.