Lacrymosa

Too much freedom. Since where only getting the illusion of "build and create". And in turn not not becoming our own GM's, in our own Missions. Its nice to have customizable missions but, if your going to attempt to give us real freedom, We should have GM power in OUR own missions. Why restrict our own mission power?.

To me this is a very delicate hit or miss. So far I can only see plenty of miss's, especially when I saw that there won't be random drops of any kind. That would never encourage me to do something.

I enjoy the whole "Omni-trollers" bit, but you should really look into Ill/FF or Ill/Kins, if anything, they where the first "Wartrollers". Keep in mind NO controller blasts. Whatsoever, Don't propel confuse any would be trollers. YOU DO NOT BLAST. You can tank.

The recon bot idea sounds nice, it reminds me of the eye of Kilrogg in WoW. Very cool idea. I don't mind the idea of being ranged all the time , since I made a Ninja MM and had fun hating and loving it. Frankly I enjoy that they snipe the hell out of something and repair each other (second tier). Melee bots would be a nice thing to see, but again I don't mind the range deal.

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And why cant you get your bots to retrieve a glowie?

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I have always wondered that , but I guess its a can of worms not willing to be opened.

I would never tell an MM to take an alpha strike in a big group. More attacks follow you know. MM's have neither the health or shielding ability to take damage like a Brute can. I don't care what you do for soloing tactics but on big teams this gets MM's wiped. Again a Brute equipped with taunt holds more aggro than an MM. Even more so if you slot taunt on attacks and aoe aura's. "grabbing the alpha safely" is one fourth the job of a tank.

Again your tactic is cute for small groups of whites and yellows but its only feasible on SMALL groups. 6+ teams are generally out of your defense capability. I would have to see evidence via fraps or any other game recording program to see this in all its "glory". If not, im calling shenanigans.

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Of course you must realize that Brutes are City of Villains's, Tank.

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Actually.. you got this wrong.. brutes not CoV equal to a tank... MMs are...

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Pets die= Dead MM... A single pet cannot keep agro like a Brute can, hence why they are given taunt. Oh and one can slot attacks and AoE's with taunt. Brute=Tank. I know, the name confuses you, just think of it like this, High Health + shields + Taunt = Tank.

Anything but teleport I suppose, unless your themed and thats your thing. Ninjas will run toward the enemy so group fly tactic is out of the question.

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Actually, most Fire Blasters tend to skip Nova.

They take Inferno instead

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Yay you made a funny! good for you Daniel-san. Nova= lvl 32 power for every blaster.

Only a very patient female could come up with this, is what I said in my head while reading the very first post... Something's are undeniable facts.

On that note, what class/AT do you feel would could handle many if not all of the enemies and or boss's in the game?.

Im assuming the OP hasn't played a tank or hasn't played one in a while. Everyone knows Gauntlet is still broken, ask any Scrapper and or Blaster teaming with a tank. . I agree with Blackspecter Tanks should HAVE taunt. As far as aura's go the strongest aura in the game is Mudpots do the math if you disagree. But again most people forget that taunt aura's only last as long as the enemy is close. Run far enough and the aura looses it potential. Taunt helps with an "insta lock" if you will. I can't remember how many times I out taunt aura tanks with merely one button press.

I understand your going for your own concept character, but do realize you just skipped PG and FS. Two of the most useful powers in big teams. PG allows for great Boss holding, and FS keep enemies fear locked for massive abuse. I wouldn't recommend any new Dark def, skip those two powers. As for Blackhole, its extremely situational. Regardless "concept" should never stop you from skipping main powers. Thats like a fire blaster skipping Nova, for concept...thats just stupid.

Bad advice would be telling people they "NEED" it(HS), which of course they don't. Since Invul tanks are surviving quite fine.

As for the enemies dmg; yes their are groups that uses SOME energy based attacks, but are usually 90% smashing and lethal. And yes there are enemies that use energy all the time (Tsoo, Clockwork, Seige's minions, Dr Aeon. etc) but these are very selective and aren't found every where in the game. Even the clockwork go from energy to Psionics. As for the Storm Shaman they use two lightning attacks. Malta sappers are usually targetted first (on good teams) and can be one shot by a really good tank.

Rularu lol no one even talks about them anymore. They are purely optional to fight to begin with.

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To be honest, no power is actually NEEDED. There are plenty of no-travel power builds, petless masterminds, stamina-less builds, and the like. So, you may not actually NEED Heightened Senses.

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All that and you actually agree with me. So where you looking for an online debate?. I see now certain people on here just type to start an argument just for fun. Because I have invited you to see me perform without HS and again you evade the situation with name calling and child like behavior. I don't blame you for not wanting to come see me perform, I wouldn't want a nice helping of humble pie to start my day, so rather than that you would rather argue ahh kids these days.


Oh and btw HS on a level 50 toon: Smashing and lethal; 3.90%
Fire/energy /cold/Negative defense: 15.36%. You let me know when your fighting anything with primary cold dmg atleast 10% of the time in game. Negative dmg is known to be amongst CoT's(especially in the Hollows) but we get passed that thanks to police scanner missions. Fire dmg is found in Sky raiders, certain Cot bosses(Blords) , and Energy is rarely found so much so that invul tanks get resist Energies passed lvl 30. The smashing and Lethal defesne from HS is so small that your own regeneration due to the other powers(FS,Rttc,HpT, etc) will mitigate lost life points.

Finally, you call people achieving a certain way to play a GAME "buffoonery" , when I give credit to anyone who can find ways to play without having to get powers that everyone is headstrong to get ALL the time. It may not be how you play, but if it achieves the same objective, who's to say its wrong, stupid, or "buffoonery"?.

Again im not starting anything, the guy calling people nublet on an online board is the bored guy behind the monitor trying to get "online points". Heightened Senses is not needed. I can show you if you want?. Again I invite you to one of my teams and watch me pull it off. point blank.'

And honestly lets move this along kid either you want actual game proof or your just going to keep typing away?. I gave you my email and global. All up to you now.

And your little online tirade made me bored all of the 10 seconds I spent reading it. Look if your going to have an angry comment why not send me message?, guess you got someone to impress, moving on.

Why bother typing up a build I can show you how I taunt at level 10. Just send me an email on the Guardian server (preferably Marcus Falcon). Again I offer anyone to send me an email in RL (kareiyasu@aol.com) if they wish to discuss or need certain builds showed to them. By that I mean I can back up everything I suggest.

Furthermore I take it you've been PL'ed too much;"you likely are aware that the amount of time it will take to get to level 22 is about 10% of the time it will take to get from 23 to 50". Really? you must not play much. Bad comparison if you want to call me a noob but hey theres always someone

And hey go play a tank, get on a team, at early levels of course, and watch how Gauntlet is still broken. Again if you don't believe me I can always show you. I thought we where passed calling people noobs, guess you just needed to respond huh?, these boards only show me more and more everyday how many kids play this game. Finally if you don't believe anything I post just send me a message and or email, I will gladly take some time out of my day and show you how to play a tank. That is all.

The whole themed amazon thing was cute for about 10 seconds, then I just wanted a simply typed guide. Moving on.

If your planning on getting Tough and or Weave you don't need Heightened Senses. As you will be capped defense wise. Instead of Air superiority I would have people take Combat Jumping since the numbers are the same as Heightened Senses(smash and lethal). Plus a 3% defense towards fire cold and energy is not really noticed. "You show me environmental damage, and I'll show you how to beat Recluse in 3 seconds ." As for the perception bonus, It hasn't stopped me from running two tanks to 50 without perception. Again I would advise against HS if your getting tough and or weave.

I agree with Jayboh, waiting so long for MoB? PLed much?. Seriously every person who plays a tank knows to take the first shield. Especially if your going to fight all the way to lvl 20. Again I would advise getting Mind over Body IMMEDIATELY if your planning on actually playing the tank. I run IW and MoB on my renewed WP tank at lvl 10 and I'm having no end problems. A good tank learns to control his attack patterns.

You also took Taunt at 24?...either this is your first Tank or you just felt like it would be better needed at that level. Regardless im glad you at the very least took it. I would advise those making a WP tank to TAKE TAUNT AT LVL 10. If you feel like scrapping play a scrapper enough said.

Now you see SF1FTW why I hate posting Guides myself. the whole "I live for IO" attitude really kills guides, that are just meant to play well. Ever since Io's came out ive been slowly ignoring players who swear by them. Im very old school (i3) so i don't see the need for Io's in the first place seeing as I have 4 50's without em. "Io's Dont make you a better player...they just mean you wasted a lot of Inf believing you can out perform raw skill"

As for your build, I like it , I have my Own Kat/Invul scrapper. And while I feel we where hit with a huge nerf hammer, I can take on some nice odds. I would advise on Unstoppable, considering the amount of tauntless tanks in the coming months it will help toggling "god Mode" and retreating and or beating everything in sight. i skipped Res elements and Res Energies, and have not run into a problem since. My tank took it, but my Scrapper had no need for them.

I was fine not knowing what was coming, but once I saw the list I performed my own super powered move. The extreme eye roll TM. So is this the outlook for "new" powers to come?. Crossovers?. Again Im sorry Im not jumping up and down, left and right for the devs ideas. But so far im just looking toward the LEAT, as it is most likely the most original thing coming for us veterans.

Now I have been playing for a while now. And so far nothing I see coming is fun or exciting for me. Super Reflexes for Brutes?. Really?. Im sure every fan boy (which do exist on heroes) are spinning on their chairs for everything that is released in any issue be it a respec if that was all that was given. But what about us veterans that want to see some NEW(as in not currently in both games) powersets?. Is it too much to ask to come up with some not many, but some ideas?. Maybe im expecting too much, i am after all paying 15 dollars a month...so question, what do I get for 30 dollars a month?. Im willing to pay extra if it meant some new powers -.-.

Thank you for your honest opinion. Care to actually read my post next time, or maybe comment on the topic in hand?. Please don't just attack me because you don't seem to agree with my statement. Lets not make this a big deal and please address the subject.

The no offense part was due to the fact that I didnt mean it as an insult. Merely a form of fact and or critique. Again though thanks for your OPINION on a comment. Moving on.

"there wasn't that much wrong with it". Really?, How long have you've been playing?. Everyone in my SG(frankly every SG i've been in),always complain about hollows. Either the hard to reach missions, or the "death in the gulch" syndrome which many players run into. Or how about the lack of trainer and hospital?. How about the lack of temp powers?. You see what im trying to say or rather express, is that all that was given to Faultlines revamp.

As for it being a low priority I think your mistaken, at least in my opinion. A zone that was known to Farm Frostfire, and get you to level 14 is farm from "low priority". Immediate action and mission content at level 5 is far past low priority. Hollows or any Zone for that much is never a minor problem. Adding a Trainer or a shop is.

And I think you missed my point, I'm glad other features where put in but thats not the point. My point was that it took way too long to
"fix" the Hollows, and while im glad they did im disappointed for it taking so long.

So ive waited four years for this?. Call me the pessimist, but Many of the people I have played with, used to complain about the hollows for a while now. We missed our well deserved hollows face lift when the devs somehow felt revamping Faultline was a better venture. Trying to draw attention to Fault is fine and all since before that, it was considered Hollows version 1.5. But how many people go to Hollows? Im sure a lot more than those that go to Fault.

Hollows used to be famous for the Frostfire mission and helping players get to lvl 14 (thank you Atta). Yes I am happy that it has been "faced" but honestly this late in the game?. Theres a lot to say about a Dev team that takes 4 years to complete and or revamp a zone where everyone had complaints about. Whats next Eden? or Crey Folly?. Overall these zones have nothing that rouses interest when going in. Most just go to either complete a mission or TF.

In conclusion. YES I'm glad Hollows is getting "fixed", but im sad that it took this long. Is this really the future of CoH?. we whine enough and we get Dual Blades, but we ask for a better playing zone and we wait 4 years?. YES I know the hard work that goes into being a dev. But this problem was going on way before i11, and should have been addressed at least after i5. Thanks Warwitch, im glad you finally decided to do something we all noticed (no offense). Frankly everyone I know who plays the game, are just hitting there said yawn emote.

Not to build up another Tank vs. Brute arguement, but i just want to address something. Taunt happens to be a Brute, Tank, and Scrapper power. The Devs left it in, due to its well deserved praise. Now some classes have no need for it. Take a scrapper, honestly they kill everything in sight(taunty enough). Of course you must realize that Brutes are City of Villains's, Tank. They go in first, Achieve higher levels of agro, and have tons of HP.

I know they have been called "advanced scrappers" in the past but that doesnt stop them from being a reason to get some agro and kill first. the problem with COV, is that every Arch does extreme dmg. So agro will be dispersed very unevenly. Taunt helps keep things in frame. Im not saying you HAVE to take it. Just dont trash it as if many havent taken it and made it useful.

Im not saying its not a good power (TS). Just that its not needed when you have everything else. Especially if you have Ripper. To me it just doesnt feel like a Tie 9 power to begin with. But again its how you play. Im usually on teams of five or more. So im usually noticing the nova's of blasters and the overall higher rate of killing. Ive teamed with the best out there and in my opinion its not needed.

Also you took Conserve power...sorry to hear that, and im glad you took something else lol. My scrapper friend took CP and totally cursed out COH for making the power completely useless. I even took the power back in the I5 days of my tank. And yes I respecced.

I liked the build, minus the throw spines and all. I have a friend i roll with that skipped TS aswell. Doesn't stop him from killing mobs fast. Most people on here should remember that once you start hitting the late 20's and early 30's the game just becomes a "who can kill the mob fastest, mission run." Not to say you cant solo and or use pull tactics. If your running on a big team TS won't seem to effect your kill rate. Plus the build is already AOE heavy given the dark armor and all. My best advice would be to keep up how you play. Spines main powers are Quills and SBurst, aslong as you have those two your pretty much fine. I have rolled with two spines from 1-50, and I have realized the bulk of dmg comes from Sburst and quills.
You shouldnt have to take all powers if your a scrapper, especially the taunt power. I hate it as it replaces a power better needed than taunt. But I digress, good build as long as your killing things, ignore the nay sayers.

good to know people just came to hate on my comment which was honestly expected, but hey its a forum..opinions denied. and to those tailbitters, yes I do speak for many aswell as myself. Dont be blinded but what you want to be true and what is reality. Many people I know (my friends, family, etc) have had different opinions about the overall winner. I just wished many stopped just hating on me and actually used some perspective instead of being sheep that blurt out "Grats" everytime someone decided to move. Honestly Im not saying lets all be mean. Im merely promoting some free thought, some actual real opinions that dont start with "grats and or you did good". We dont need hugs everytime we do something. A simple discussion is worth the time put in.

Honestly Im gonna give my most honest opinion here, unlike the sheep that just say "GRATS UR TEH BEST" and actually have nothing informative to say.
I think I speak for many that will remain quiet about the situation when I see that the winner of the costume contest didnt really deserved best hero overall. When you look at the detail and colors Komic Kitten selected and or found, you can see who the real winner is. And no before I get any tail bitters, I dont know Kitten never played with her nor have i met or ever will meet. All that aside in MY honest opinion she had more detail and honestly a better look. The contest winner chose black and pink... the most simplest color combination for women since Clueless the movie. I have spoken to quite a few people and while they do agree she deserves to be part of the list, she doesnt deserve best overall. Its good to see the Devs are as clueless as people who pick Cow Costumes as winners in the game. If you dont like my post fine your entitled to your own opinion, just dont bother posting back at me as I will ignore you. For those who have a solid reason/opinion to why you think Cutest little hero should have one by all means do post. also for those who think anyone else deserved it, please post up.
Again I dont care what you think of me or my opinion, just post your own.