Kronos_EU

Jesus wept - i thought i lived in the south yet it's a 4 hour drive from Hampshire! I pity the fool from 'Boro!

Anyway, 18-20th if that's the date - i can swing by Bristol if MJ needs picking up if he's gonna be around too..or anyone else along that route/close enough.

Was good fun last night. Some nice battles going on later on.

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lol Shnyet, i heard about this in game. dont do it mate, it wont work, anyone with half a brain will mash you and you're gimped build in about 3 seconds .

i'll actually read the thread later, and if you want to try it out on test Gtell me

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A standard 2 slotted accuracy though will have great trouble even hitting this build without BU and/or Aim.

However, putting it on test to see how it fares would definitely be the way to go - especially to see how Powerboost affects it

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BTW, aim and BU won't cut through elude unless you have quite a lot of extra to hit buffs.

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Don't most people slot at least 2 toHit buffs in Aim?
I know i can hit through Elude or PFF quite easily with 2toHit buffed Aim and no toHit buffed BU. But then i 3 slot accuracy in most attacks.

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The blapper route would probably work out better. Whilst i love nrg primary i'd go fire or ice though for PvP.

Here you go. Could go for something like this.
Maybe swap Boost Range for Conserve Power. Maybe Bonesmaher instead of Total Focus.

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder - (http://sherksilver.coldfront.net/index.php)
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Name: Defensive Ice/Nrg
Level: 50
Archetype: Blaster
Primary: Ice Blast
Secondary: Energy Manipulation
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01) --> Ice Bolt==> Acc(1) Dmg(3) Dmg(3) Dmg(5) Acc(9) Rechg(11)
01) --> Power Thrust==> Acc(1) Acc(5) Acc(46)
02) --> Ice Blast==> Acc(2) Dmg(7) Dmg(7) Dmg(9) Acc(11) Rechg(13)
04) --> Build Up==> Rechg(4) Rechg(17) Rechg(19)
06) --> Aim==> Rechg(6) Rechg(17) Rechg(21) TH_Buf(39) TH_Buf(40) TH_Buf(40)
08) --> Boxing==> Acc(8) Acc(43)
10) --> Freeze Ray==> Acc(10) Acc(13) Rechg(36) Acc(36) Rechg(37)
12) --> Combat Jumping==> DefBuf(12) DefBuf(15) DefBuf(15)
14) --> Super Jump==> EndRdx(14) Jump(19)
16) --> Hurdle==> Jump(16) Jump(42) Jump(42)
18) --> Health==> Heal(18)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(21) EndMod(23)
22) --> Tough==> DmgRes(22) DmgRes(23) EndRdx(25) EndRdx(43) DmgRes(43)
24) --> Weave==> DefBuf(24) DefBuf(25) DefBuf(27) EndRdx(27) EndRdx(37)
26) --> Maneuvers==> DefBuf(26) DefBuf(29) DefBuf(39) EndRdx(39) EndRdx(40)
28) --> Tactics==> EndRdx(28) EndRdx(29) TH_Buf(31) TH_Buf(31) TH_Buf(36) EndRdx(37)
30) --> Power Boost==> Rechg(30) Rechg(31) Rechg(33)
32) --> Bitter Ice Blast==> Acc(32) Acc(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(34) Dmg(34) Rechg(34)
35) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(35)
38) --> Total Focus==> Acc(38) Acc(48) Dmg(48) Dmg(50) Dmg(50)
41) --> Snow Storm==> EndRdx(41) EndRdx(42)
44) --> Frozen Armor==> DefBuf(44) DefBuf(45) DefBuf(45) EndRdx(45) DmgRes(46) EndRdx(46)
47) --> Hibernate==> Rechg(47) Rechg(48) Rechg(50)
49) --> Conserve Power==> Rechg(49)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Defiance==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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I'm quoting from fact, whats the point in fitting in 5 pools in your maths when you can't?



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Praps try reading the OP next time..

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Now all that adds to a measly 16.32 (thats using all 5, which is indeed impossible due to only 4 PP picks, so the best you're gunna get is 13.76)

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Fire Secondary is mostly PbAoEs.

This makes it bad for a blapping set but good for team support in a good team so long as you have a tank keeping aggro or a controller holding. I wouldn't be suprised if a /Fire could wipe out a spawn without even worrying about their primary within one attack chain if someone bunched them up enough.

IIRC the AoEs are Combustion ( large ), FSC ( small ), Blazing Aura ( small ), Consume ( large ) , Burn ( small ) and Hot Feet(large).

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Blazing aura being much like lightning field is great for blappers...providing you can stay alive. You don't need to use as many other attacks as the pbaoe will finish them off meaning a quick cycle and 1 or 2 attacks per minion, rather than perhaps 3, is all that is needed
As noted, a tank to take the aggro is very handy..as is a kin and fulcrum to boost all those lovely numbers.
But a group of 8 is easily soloable with LF, so the extras from /fire will drop em even quicker.

All blaster secondaries have a large element of melee orientated powers - and generally they are very good in one way or another and help to make a blaster alot more powerful than with the primary alone.
That said, both primary and secondary blaster sets need tweaking imo.

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120 iirc for snipes at base *snip*



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NoFuture has snipe ranges at 150ft in the updated powersets.

This was just a thread to gauge interest and promote discussion, not a sign up.
I'll repost when i've got more feedback and start the sign ups at the end of july.
With the PvP league going on peeps will be busy with that too.

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Might be handy to get some sort of site (hotscripts got em alot) running, easier for full overview and can be useable for the other AT's too

I've used such site during another MMO.

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Hmmm...time to get to grips with Ruby on Rails i think.

Basically i'm not thinking of even starting this until the beginning of August at the very very earliest (on my holibobs soon! )

I think you misunderstand Plight.
I'm suggesting a tourny in addition to the league. The league will run until everyone has fought each other twice (that's 2 fights with each one being a best of 3 with the scoring as per post above). So no-one will be eliminated as such and will only finish when they have fought all other contestants twice.

Then the top 16 from the league will have a tournament afterwards with a wimbledon seeding type affair from the results/table order the league has produced...i.e. league winnder is seed 1, runner up is seed 2 etc etc.

Then we all get together for a Royal Rumble or 2.

For the knockout tourny i think the wimbledon seeding would be best with each match being a best of 5. This way if you don't do great you have a couple more chances. And although knockout is a bit meh, this way we could perhaps do all the matches on one night.
Make it top 16 from the league (if there are that many). That way it will be done in a 4 hour stint. Or break it up over 2 days and 2, 2 hour sessions.

For the league though it might be good to do 'best of 3', twice and count the 2 best results for points - meaning you could total 6 points for 2 wins and anything else, 2 points for 2 draws and anything other than a win, 3 points for a win and 2 losses and 4 points for a win and 2 draws.
Would give a little bit more variety in the table and should hopefully give everyone a chance to get some points.

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But we should have a mass free-for-all at the end, that would be fun!

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Definitely - 20 or more blasters in a royal rumble...20 minute match...would be great.

For me, if you're going to go 1 v 1, blasters are the most fun - reminds me of Doom, Timesplitter 2 or Goldeneye - especially Royal Rumbles.
So, this is an enquiry/discussion on who would be interested in a blaster only PvP league and/or knockout tourny?
Say 20 blasters. Lvl 50 matches. Play each other twice giving 38 matches in total. Play the league first then go for a wimbledon style seeding for the tourny? Or just random match ups whilst the league is running?
Or just a knockout tournament on it's own without the league in a best of 5 match? Or all of the above?
Thoughts please.

It's definitely worth taking imo whether you melee or not.
2 component parts plus a 3rd DoT, and the damage isn't that shabby either.

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OK, team 8 V team 2 seems to be a bit unusual. Only Spyka actually showed up so that match was not fought.

Not sure if that means all 6 lose a life or just the 5 who didn't turn up?

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Concerning Team 8, I passed on my spot (@Okton) since the beginning of the tournament to Kronos (and informed the organisers). Don't know if he showed up for that match or not though.

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Wasn't available last week. No further subs ala the other matches obviously not available either!:P

It is PvP related.
A shortening of the range would be good to bring it into line with 'most' blasters short range high damage power - i.e. about 20'

Totally agree. Get em both, slot em both.
Although, if your build is tight but have Hasten, i've found there is minimal difference whether you 2 or 3 slot recharge.
Also if you slot toHit buffs, put em in Aim first...i.e. 2 tHB in Aim gives a better return than slotting either 2 in BU or 1 in each.

I still think blasters need a bit of loving with a primary damage buffing though...either that or nerf Impale! Or both!!

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Xan, is your controller not Grav/Emp? :P

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Yes. Why do you think I can see how unbalanced the rules are?

You're all saying "Lets find out where the inadequacies in 1vs1 PvP lie! It'll be more balanced if we don't use inspirations!" I can tell you now, that with a match like that a controller will win. Even if he misses 2 holds out of every 5, he's still going to chain hold someone once their mez protection has gone and any controller can stack over any mez protection in less than 30 seconds.

I just don't see the point in entering a tournament where the winners are already layed out in front of you.

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You never know - there might be a few surprises - and it'd be nice to have some actual statistics to prove what 'everyone knows'.

One other thing i haven't seen mentioned - are Kheldians allowed? Apolgies if it's there somewhere.

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no inspirations means defenders/controllers/blasters are meat for other ATs

No inspirations means defenders and blaster are total meat for controllers.

Judicious inspiration use allows "weaker" builds to overcome inherant weaknesses, otherwise we may as well set up a scrapper only league IMHO

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This is the whole point though. You will get to see just how unbalanced the AT's actually are in PvP if no inspirations is a rule.
It should be rock/paper/scissor but i think in some cases they'll be the scissors to everyone elses rock.

Oops. Deleted my lvl 1 stalker the other day (and it had a freespec attached)
No space on Onion at the min so Deviant would be good. But i'll try and figure out something to delete if it's def Onion.

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I think there are some real PvP gems to still be found, including 1 or 2 from the Blaster sets. Happy hunting.

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Too right...ice/fire is up next for me!

[/ QUOTE ]good to hear kronos, at least there'll be one person left to pwn when everyone else learns

Plight

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You may be right - but i'll have fun trying it out - you never know until you do. One mans bacon is another mans sausage - or something.

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... Other men's sasuages now Kron?

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I was waiting for some comment on that!
Still, the idiom implied holds true.
And i'm not saying I like sausage!

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I think there are some real PvP gems to still be found, including 1 or 2 from the Blaster sets. Happy hunting.

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Too right...ice/fire is up next for me!

[/ QUOTE ]good to hear kronos, at least there'll be one person left to pwn when everyone else learns

Plight

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You may be right - but i'll have fun trying it out - you never know until you do. One mans bacon is another mans sausage - or something.