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Per usual, the 5-Digit Post Count Patrol sweeps in and shoots down an idea without acctually addressing the idea. I'm starting to understand how one achieves such numbers...

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I'm not seeing where the other posters shot down the idea. Saying the idea isn't new isn't disagreeing with the idea itself.

"I've got a NEW idea! It's the greatest idea since sliced bread. Buttered and toasted bread!"
"That's not new."
"Why do you hate buttered toast?! What do you have against my idea?"
"I don't have anything against buttered toast. I simply said your idea isn't new."

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I'm not categorically against any attempt to change the current structure of raids. But your ideas still slap a "temporary" label on a mechanic that requires me to change my plans for the gaming session beyond moving to another zone and coming back in 15 minutes or so - or to rely on the actions of others to clear the zone. You still have not answered what happens if everyone on at the time just refuses to participate - are we all then SOL for using that zone until server reset? And then it spreads to the next zone and the next?

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He's been quite clear that if the raid isn't stopped it'd spread, so yeah.

He's also not against the idea that if a server can't stop the raid from spreading the server should be shut down, so that's an even bigger consequence.

It's so brilliant that I'm still at a loss for words.

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I NEVER freaking said this. NEVER.

I was told that there are servers that can't stop a raid as I described it. I said I doubted it, and that a server that has so few people shouldn't be running, since it must have NO ONE on it. That's because if even ONE player was on the server (and was interested in stopping the raid - that point was well taken, though again, I've never seen less than 50 people, even on QUIET servers), ONE SINGLE PLAYER could stop the raids.

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You didn't? It sounded like it with

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If they're maintaining a server that's actually completely empty, then it ought to be shut down, if only for financial considerations.

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that.

You said that if a server couldn't stop the raid then it must be empty and therefore should be shut down. Unless I read it wrong, which is a distinct possibility.

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I love how the OP wants to complain about the MA, and then advertises his AE arcs in his sig, that is priceless!

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Trying to help the AE Babies play the game and enjoying one's AE arc are two different things.

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I'm not categorically against any attempt to change the current structure of raids. But your ideas still slap a "temporary" label on a mechanic that requires me to change my plans for the gaming session beyond moving to another zone and coming back in 15 minutes or so - or to rely on the actions of others to clear the zone. You still have not answered what happens if everyone on at the time just refuses to participate - are we all then SOL for using that zone until server reset? And then it spreads to the next zone and the next?

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He's been quite clear that if the raid isn't stopped it'd spread, so yeah.

He's also not against the idea that if a server can't stop the raid from spreading the server should be shut down, so that's an even bigger consequence.

It's so brilliant that I'm still at a loss for words.

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The answers she provided were interesting. But mostly boiled down to the fact that she didn't like to take responsibility for leading.

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Most people don't like to be in charge. They like to have someone else take initiative and lay out a path for them to follow. I'm a little like that, with the difference that, if no one else will step up to the plate, I'll man up and fill that role. I'm not entirely thrilled with it, but sometimes it's the shortest route to what I want to accomplish.



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That reminded me of my 6th Grade Science class.

I myself am not a leader, never was, never will be, I'm just a worker. In my science class I was almost always put in charge of the group projects when the teacher made groups. I almost always got stuck with those with the lowest grades in the class due to my A being one of only two, I'm guessing because the teacher wanted my brains to balance out their lack of one.

I lead the group, but I hated it. It was more like trying to get a mule to go where you want it than having other kids work as a team.

Thankfully it's not quite THAT bad here in CoH, but I still hate leading.

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I'm a fourth category.
I've got Group Fly on three characters and planned for more (counting one PB with Energy Flight).

I dual box a lot, and set up my group of characters so that those on one account have either Recall Friend, Group Fly or Kinetics, ie have some means of ferrying the characters on the other account around.

The characters on Account 2 dont always have travel powers because they always have a partner who can get help them out.

If I'm teaming with anyone else I make well sure its out of my tray before we enter a mission.

I would heartily second the original suggestion and extend it.
- Lose the accuracy penalty.
- Normalise everyone's fly speeds within the bubble to be the same based only on enhancements slotted by the owner of Group Fly.

This would change it from broken to one of those cool flavour powers you could grab for concept, situational utility or just fun.

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I'm in a fifth category; I take it for concept. One of the toons that I have it on is a 10 year old girl who woke up one morning having memories that weren't hers; remembering a thousand summers of adventure, a pirate captain with a hook that hates her, and the knowledge of how to use a golden sword and dagger that appeared on her nightstand. She took the name Pan's Legacy because she doesn't know how she gained his powers of flight and his memories, but she now carries his legacy to never grow up and always have fun. She's a master of flight, both heavily slotting Hover to perma-hover in combat, flying itself, and Group Fly.

I'm also using the Kheldian versions on my Human-only Peacebringer. He's also a master of flying, so he's taking each and every fly power they get. His sister is a Warshade who's a master of porting, so she naturally took every teleport-like power WS's get.

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Quite frankly, if there aren't enough people on a server to stop a raid like I've suggested, then that server should be shut down for being unpopulated. I could probably stop a raid like I've described entirely by myself.


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Right.

THAT is a brilliant idea.

Absolutely brilliant.

That's something nobody will argue against, it's that brilliant.

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It's like your first idea was, "I'm going to give you a swift kick to the groin". When I objected, you changed it to "Okay, I'm still going to give you a swift kick to the groin, but I'll take off my shoe first". Well, I suppose that's a little better isn't it, but you know what would be even better? Not getting kicked in the groin in the first place.

Stop trying to kick me in the groin Ultimo_

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And I'm hearing Yahtzee's voice describe that.

And you're in for a kick in the balls.
Maybe a genteeler kick in the balls than most.
An extremely pretty well executed kick in the balls with the best of intentions but at the end of the day you're still walking funny.

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"Mr. Moderator...tear down this thread!"

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BAB's SMASH!

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BAB's. . .sleepy

. . . ZZzzZZzz

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So filling has been around as long as the game has?

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Yes. Which is why it ANNOYS the piss out of so many, and many are glad that this feature is going to be implemented. No more tells asking "can you fill".

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I can remember when filling was a good thing, simply because it was a small group of 50's paying lowbies in Atlas Park to fill, usually for 1 million per-mission or per-hour.

Just street hunt for a while, the payer would zip by Atlas and drop a couple million Inf in your lap, then they'd leave.

It hasn't been that way in a long long time.

/em feel old

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I'm not really sure what "core game" even so much as stands for. The things Cat mentioned may enter into it, but they seem like quality of life more than anything else. What is there to work on, aside from QOL, then? I certainly don't want to see combat change radically or some such, and the Architect IS pretty much what I'd consider a core game expansion.

About the only other thing I can think of is adding more content - missions, zones, contacts, etc. - but that doesn't seem to be what we're talking about.

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Well, I'm reminded of one review of CoH over on GameFAQs. The reviewer complained that the combat system is extremely simplistic (ie: Click the button and you attack). He wanted something far more complex, probably like what you'd find in Street Fighter, from the way he talked about our combat system.

Can you imagine having to input a 10-key code to use your nuke?

I'd hate it too, but then I'm not a hard core gamer like this guy was acting.

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It may not be used for the Fog of War.

Notice how we now have arrows on the map to reveal where a Hostage/Ally is? They don't show up until you save them. Perhaps this makes them appear early?

Maybe glowies too?

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The description of Reveal posted on Red Tomax says, "Your extensive knowledge of your surroundings will allow you to clear the "Fog of War" from any map once every 5 minutes." So, your assumption is unlikely.



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Let me dream! *weeps openly*

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Just FYI, this is pretty standard with most MMOs. Blizzard won't reimburse you, nor will SOE for hacked accounts.

It is imperative as others have said that you do not use any risky net behavior. The chance of someone randomly targetting you just through an ip trace or random port pings is next to nil. It is usually done through malicious programming or tactics to get your account information, such as the ones the gold sellers use.

I've been playing MMOs for approx 10 years, and I've never lost an account or been compromised in any game.

It's unfortunate about the information sites, but its a risk in any industry.

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That just reminded me of my old WoW account. I played the game for one whole month then came back to CoH.

I uninstalled the game, canceled my account, deleted my credit card info and left their world for good.

About a year later I get an e-mail from Blizzard. "Your account has been banned for using a bot"

o.O?

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

I hadn't touched the game in a year, long after my 6 month account had lapsed. I hadn't gone to any fan-sites that could have had a keylogger; so the only thing I could figure is they either fudged something up in their security or someone got into my account somehow.

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I got a similar email from them. I had the trial, hated it and never upgraded. About a year later I get an email from them saying my account was banned for prohibited activity. I replied to them to tell them the account had to have been accessed fraudulently, since I had never upgraded it. I got a response that the decision could not be appealed. I explained that I wasn't appealing it, that they could ban, delete, or blow up the account for all I cared, just that somehow the account was hacked. I got another email from a senior GM that their prior response was the final decision and the account would not be restored...I gave up after that....

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Wow. . . .seriously, wow.

Makes me glad I didn't do anything more than laugh, shrug my shoulders, delete the e-mail and laugh some more.

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It may not be used for the Fog of War.

Notice how we now have arrows on the map to reveal where a Hostage/Ally is? They don't show up until you save them. Perhaps this makes them appear early?

Maybe glowies too?

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A 63 month Vet already knows all the maps by heart, knows where all the hostages are, and knows where all the glowies are.

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Not everyone has a picture perfect memory of people, places or things.

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Another way to look at it is that if you do get the right purple drop, you can sell it and be set for life.

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I've gotten a couple Purples in my time (well, 3 to be exact), and they weren't the high sellers. My Ragnarok: Chance for Knockdown barely sold for more than a Posi: Chance for Energy. It made my brute a fair amount of money but he was hardly set for life. ^^;

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Just FYI, this is pretty standard with most MMOs. Blizzard won't reimburse you, nor will SOE for hacked accounts.

It is imperative as others have said that you do not use any risky net behavior. The chance of someone randomly targetting you just through an ip trace or random port pings is next to nil. It is usually done through malicious programming or tactics to get your account information, such as the ones the gold sellers use.

I've been playing MMOs for approx 10 years, and I've never lost an account or been compromised in any game.

It's unfortunate about the information sites, but its a risk in any industry.

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That just reminded me of my old WoW account. I played the game for one whole month then came back to CoH.

I uninstalled the game, canceled my account, deleted my credit card info and left their world for good.

About a year later I get an e-mail from Blizzard. "Your account has been banned for using a bot"

o.O?

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

I hadn't touched the game in a year, long after my 6 month account had lapsed. I hadn't gone to any fan-sites that could have had a keylogger; so the only thing I could figure is they either fudged something up in their security or someone got into my account somehow.

It may not be used for the Fog of War.

Notice how we now have arrows on the map to reveal where a Hostage/Ally is? They don't show up until you save them. Perhaps this makes them appear early?

Maybe glowies too?

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Evidently just now lol.

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I'm assuming for quite some time if I've been put on ignore for it. I'm just not sure when that happened; I've never done any real farming; I think I've been on a doorsit farm 3 times my entire gaming history here. They were, for me, pretty boring. I just sat there and read my books while others took down the TV Nemesis crew. I've since quit from other farm teams when I find that they're AE Farms. I mean, if that's what you wanna do in the game, have at it; I don't find it fun myself, but others do.

I'm just curious about when I was considered a farmer and why.

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You a "farmer" that I already have on ignore making a post about "gold farmers" is ironic.

When you are part of the problem is is hard to see what the solution has always been, but then again - I've been saying it for months now.

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I'm a farmer? When did this happen?

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While searching for some cheap IO's Blueside I came across something that shocked me.



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LOL ROFL. OMG. He said cheep and... ROFL. BLUESIDE. LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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I don't get it. Can someone explain it to me please.

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Prices on some items on the Blueside Market are anything but cheap. What sells for 10 Inf Redside can cost 10,000 or more Blueside. This is due to a mixture of population, Inf on hand, drop rates based on Magic/Tech drops, and the like.

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While searching for some cheap IO's Blueside I came across something that shocked me.


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LOL ROFL. OMG. He said cheep and... ROFL. BLUESIDE. LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Considering the lower levels of that hold set usually sells for a few hundred-thousand, I'd consider it cheap. The IOs don't even need rare salvage to be made, making the cost in making it even less than those that need Hami Goo, Deific Weapon or even the lesser priced rares like the Heads Up Display.



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Yes...This is why we don't need the AIDS of the blueside market infecting Redside. Carry on.

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I meant that to say 'few hundred to a few thousand', not a few hundred-thousand. My mistake.

That's why I consider it cheap. A few of those IOs were selling for 10, not 10,000, just 10. For a lower level character that's plenty cheap.

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While searching for some cheap IO's Blueside I came across something that shocked me.



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LOL ROFL. OMG. He said cheep and... ROFL. BLUESIDE. LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Considering the lower levels of that hold set usually sells for a few hundred-thousand, I'd consider it cheap. The IOs don't even need rare salvage to be made, making the cost in making it even less than those that need Hami Goo, Deific Weapon or even the lesser priced rares like the Heads Up Display.

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I fail to see what does that have to do with my reply you quoted, and Quoting Someone Only To Completely Ignore It is a capital sin worthy to be met with rudeness, so here you go :

It's already rather stupid to call other people ignorant when you're the one who's clearly not informed, but to try to justify your own stupidity because of the wrongdoings of a particular group of people unrelated to this topic is not only irrelevant, it's also completely retarded. RMTers are bad, hence everything bad in this game is because of them ? Someone is against your stupid assumption, so it must mean he's defending RMTers ? Come on now.

Posting this useless topic is contributing to global warming. That's bad. You're bad. You're evil. RMTers are evil. You're a RMTer. See how fast this becomes completely stupid ? Yes, that's how stupid your post was.

I'm not even touching your next point, whatever it is. Doing random good things don't make a stupid thread any less stupid, but it seems like it's a trend for you to assume completely unrelated things are related. Cut the karma crap and stop looking like a fool - research your facts before posting aggressively, unless you want the heat you're prone to get.

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I wasn't ignoring what you said. You never specified what I was defaming, so I had to chose which one you were talking about, the RMTs, which is what it seemed like Angry Citizen was doing at the time of his replies, or the AE Babies, which I was trying to help. Since I wasn't saying AE Babies are evil or anything, I assumed you meant the RMT Farmers, thus I talked about them.

I'm not sure what your issue is with me trying to help others understand the game, but if you do, then more power to you I suppose. Much like the replies in that thread, I try to help others when I can. Since I didn't think that the original picture I took was of a transfer, having not done one ever nor seeing them done, I came to the (wrong) conclusion that it was someone who didn't know what they were doing. In the other thread the new player bought many basic enhancements from the market, which isn't always cheaper than vendors. It isn't that much of a stretch to think that new players would waste money on what they don't know about. Even Rabid_Metroid said that he came to the same conclusion that I had, that someone new to the game was wasting money; so what I had originally thought is not unheard of.

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While searching for some cheap IO's Blueside I came across something that shocked me.

These prices!

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that's called an 'influence transfer'.

If you REALLY want your mind blown go browse some low level training enhancements that nobody ever uses.

Anybody who wants to swap inf around without worrying about getting your transfer sniped, I highly recommend Fulmens. Service with a smile, and his rates have gone down since I engaged his services.

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Yeah, I realized that after the first couple replies.

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Maybe because they had no experience with the topic and couldn't possibly have known anything.

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They knew enough to blame the evil farmers. *ahem* AE babies.

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It's nice to know you have such love for others who haven't thought of every angle or option.

So I'm guessing you support the RMT people in selling their Inf and PL services, you probably wouldn't be defending them so if you didn't.

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I support the farmers who earn their Inf. RMT is not the issue at hand.

Everyone has a right to play how they want. If you don't like it, well, I really doubt they give a damn.

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Really? Then why did you jump down my throat? I never said anything against the normal farmer crowd. Unless you normal farmers are sending e-mails trying to sell it for real money. And RMTs were at hand when I had thought that the sale was done because of the RMT providing the funds.

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It is often best to think of every angle and option before defaming people in public.

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Something tells me that the RMT people don't need defending.

I've helped Winter Lord Babies understand the game better when I bumped into them in game, and I help those who ask me now. Those I try to help be better players; the RMT people. . .I don't see what can be defended about them.