Kabaal_EU

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Again, you are i am afraid also wrong there.

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Must be pretty rare then as i've never been spotted by any mobs in 29 levels as a stalker without it being an ambush or my own fault.

Mobs dont randomly see through hide. Ambushes autotarget you when they spawn but thats about it.

I have a special treat just for you on the 11th

AS knocking a third off you health makes assassins strike over powered how?

I thikn some people would rather have a Feather Duster power than Assassins Strike

Nice one..

Perhaps your seeing the Stalkers because they havent picked up Stealth yet and only have Hide running? I meet a lot of Stalkers in PvP zones who ask how the heros dont see me and yet can see them.

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Every one makes mistakes mate and thats what Im on the look out for. No mater how good you are every one has there off days just because it has not happend to you yet dont mean its not going to. Hell they siad going faster than 60 MPH was impossible and that flying was impossible nothing is impossible.

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well of course this is true and i not say is impossible.I just say that its not a rule that stalkers one shot controllers. There are a lot of "if" involved and if u come down to a point that you have to wait from a controller to make a mistake to one shot him then this means that by rule controllers are tough to get to with a stalker.

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I beg to differ. For me it is the rule to one shot controllers. Troller/Blaster/Defenders are by far the easiest to take out. The only 2 controllers i've had difficulty with are yourself when you play Talin and Agent Matron (who's like a bloody Jack in the Box ). And i might add i've one shotted both of you (you in the villain base when someone knocked your hurricane off while you had someone penned into a corner with it ) although it takes a long time waiting for the two of you to make a mistake/an opportunity to arise.
But apart from the two of you yes as a rule Controllers are one shotted, and usually as soon as i see them.

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tch n00b

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I was talking about why u think QR isn't in the set not about regen Brutes

And yes i know its your opinion, i didnt try to tell you you weren't allowed it, there was no reason to try make it out that way. I merely pointed out that we have no idea why they took it out. I still think it was sensible to remove it as i certainly wouldnt benefit from less downtime.

Isn't he only going for a coupla weeks?

Scenario 1 - If you're only actually going for a coupla weeks like you seem to be then enjoy your time off. It's good to have a break from time to time

Scenario 2 - If you're leaving for good then all the best wherever you may end up

Kabaal/Be-el

I'll be lurking in the shadows somewhere

After lvl 22 it gets much easier, especially as you start picking up the SO's for bounty in sirens, it doesnt take long till you are fully kitted out with them. This puts you on a much more even playing field.

On Scrapper at lvl 19?

K i've just picked my lvl 10 power and took hasten, i still think it's going to be a bad choice having SS for the PvP zones but i'm will to give it a try. I can always respec to SJ or Fly later.

Your just speculating. You have no more idea than the rest of us why they got rid of QR instead of any other choice

We could argue back and forth all day and still none of us would be any the wiser.

At the end of the day a panic button like MoG is still more useful to a Stalker concept wise or not than QR.

And i too doubt that cryptic took a careful look at regen or adapted it. It's probably only there because it is so popular. Imo Regen set shouldnt be there for Stalkers full stop, but it is, and it has the powers it has.

Just watched that vid, and i gotta say that it reminded me a few battles i've been involved in. Any of you who havent experienced the PvP zones yet give em a go cos every so often it really does get like it shows in that vid. Most of the time its a lot quieter, but the times when the big battles arrive are amazing, pretty much what you've just watched.

On the other hand as a stalker is designed for hit and run QR doesnt really go with the concept of stalker. The AT concept to me should come before the power set concept, which the devs have done.

I've just been reading a bit on the controller thread about acrobatics. How bad really is acrobatics for hold resistance? Is there much chance of holds/immob not working on me at all when using CJ and Acro?

Please note i broke your post down for ease of answering your questions not for picking it apart lol.

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just wondering, are you making a dominator specifically designed for PvP, or are you making an ice/psi dominator having a PvP build. If your going to make a dominator for PvP i'd make a mind/ice or mind/energy dominator.

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Yeah i'm making it specifically for PvP, i seem to be addicted to it at the mo
My reasons for making it Ice/Psi are that i already have a Mind/Psi, granted its only lvl 11,and yeah i know it rocks I've always liked the look of Ice Controllers, but havent really had the time to play one properly (too many damn alts) and believe an ice/ Dominator would be pretty nifty for PvP. I'm not sure about the single target holds on other sets but Block of Ice seems to have a pretty damn fast recharge time on it.
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As for your current build, is acrobatics really necessary?? its a toggle its terrible rez to hold and well for knockback protection, its good but your offence is your defence, so you could quite easily just take speed pool instead of leaping. Hasten will really help you on stacking holds on enemies, and breaking their mes resistance.


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No acrobatics probably isnt necessary but as i'm planning on going down the SJ route i thought it certainly wouldn't harm me in any way to have it. There are loads of trollers running around in the PvP zones so any mez protection will be better than none, if i can hold them before they hold me it will give me an edge.
I gave my resons for not taking the speed pool instead of SJ before, simply put from my experiences as a Stalker it doesnt give me the manoeverability required for fighting in the PvP zones. It will limit me to attacking foes on the ground or flying foes etc who are within the relatively short range of my holds/immobs.

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Also your built round PvP, do you really want leadership pool, its a strain to endurance, 2 more toggles on top of CJ and acrobatics. Tohitbuff is okay, but if your going for +perception, theres no realy need after all you have arctic air which is -stealth, and will unhide stalkers. so as long as your team stays near you, they'll be safe against stleathed foes. So for PvP i'd recommend aid self and stimulant on your build, aid self will improve your surivability big time, and stimulant will be real useful on teams.

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The fact that i'm built round PvP is the reason for taking the leadership pool. Firstly the added accuracy from tactics means i can leave my holds slotted with 2 Acc without having to add a 3rd thus freeing up a slot. Secondly yes it is also for the +perception. Arctic Air does have -stealth but only against foes who are inside its circumference which isnt really that big and will certainly not help against flying foes. My hope is that with that and tactics i will be able to spot invis/superior invis foes sooner and hopefully take them out before they can do anything to my team.
You may have noticed that my build is for a Dominator not a controller, therefore negating Stalkers hide wont be an issue for me as they will be on my side When i say for PvP i mean the PvP zones as i have little interest in the arena other than for testing.

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As for glacier, best to keep it at 2 acc 2 hold and 2 recharge, for PvE and thats just fine in PvP to, in PvP your not going to be spamming an AoE hold all the time, esp in 1-1s your best control on teams is ice slick.

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Yeah your probably right about making it 2 Acc 2 Hold and 2 Recharge in Block of Ice, it doesnt really take that much end for that one anyway. I know that Ice Slick is a great power, but i dont plan to just lay down ice slick and be done with it, especially when fighting against certain scrappers, tanks and people with acrobatics that it will have no effect on. Imo my AoE hold will be invaluable when there are larger battles goin on so i think i'll keep it but perhaps add a recharge or 2 in after i've seen what the end cost is

My main concern is not having hasten, but i really cant see how i can drop any of the pools without lowering my effectiveness more than what i would gain.

IR goggles are only meant to let u see stalkers using hide btw, not hide and stealth which most do now on defiant.
Tested it today on my stalker and Talin using only IR goggles couldnt see me with both hide and stealth running. The plot thickens

Right i've taken into account what you guys have said and changed the build to this. Just a shame i need all four pool sets and can't take hasten. I just cant see SS working on this as it limits me too much.

Exported from version 1.5C of CoH Planner
http://joechott.com/coh

Archetype: Dominator
Primary Powers - Ranged : Ice Control
Secondary Powers - Support : Psionic Assault

01 : Psionic Dart acc(01)
01 : Block of Ice acc(01) acc(3) hlddur(5) hlddur(7) endred(9) recred(11)
02 : Frost Bite acc(02) acc(3) immdur(5) immdur(9) endred(11) endred(15)
04 : Telekinetic Thrust acc(04) acc(37)
06 : Arctic Air endred(06) endred(7) cnfdur(15) ferdur(23) slw(40)
08 : Hurdle jmp(08)
10 : Combat Jumping defbuf(10)
12 : Ice Slick recred(12) recred(13) recred(13) endred(17)
14 : Super Jump jmp(14)
16 : Health hel(16) hel(17) hel(37)
18 : Chilblain acc(18) acc(19) immdur(19) immdur(23) endred(25) endred(36)
20 : Stamina endrec(20) endrec(21) endrec(21)
22 : Stealth endred(22)
24 : Drain Psyche acc(24) acc(25) endrec(36) endrec(36)
26 : Glacier acc(26) acc(27) hlddur(27) hlddur(29) endred(29) recred(31)
28 : Assault endred(28) endred(34)
30 : Tactics thtbuf(30) thtbuf(31) thtbuf(31) endred(37)
32 : Jack Frost acc(32) acc(33) dam(33) dam(33) hlddur(34) hlddur(34)
35 : Acrobatics endred(35)
38 : Psychic Shockwave acc(38) dam(39) dam(39) recred(39) recred(40) acc(40)

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Not sure if your right about it being 25+ i've done it (and failed) with a lvl 24 on team. Had someone telling me the other night that you can do it at 24 but wont be awarded the respec unless your 25. Sounds like utter tosh to me, but hey ho some strange things happen in CoV

Not sure if your right about it being 25+ i've done it (and failed) with a lvl 24 on team. Had someone telling me the other night that you can do it at 24 but wont be awarded the respec unless your 25. Sounds like utter tosh to me, but hey ho some strange things happen in CoV