Jiaozy

I think BA has a 10ft range, as Chilling Embrace, 15 ft is the range of Combustion and Footstomp and I don't think it's _that_ large.

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Might turn up, if I feel like bearing with Nef the whole time

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soz mate, only 1 n00b allowed

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Meh, so that leaves only Jum? Oh well, good luck then

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Were you talking from a fire/fire perspective?

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He's Fire/Ice.

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Fiery Aura. Nothing holds aggro like it when slotted correctly and coupled with taunt, makes them so much more effective at aggro management than other builds.

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I take you never tried Chilling Embrace..
That's the best taunt aura you can hope for, the foes are aggroed for an astounding amount of time, it's by far the best taunt aura you can hope to have. If you add to that that in the set there's _another_ taunt aura(Icicles) you'll see that at aggro grabbing there' nothing like Ice Armour.

The first SF is 15-20 and will likely spawn lvl 20s if it's something like CoH's SF.

But while an invuln without Tough and Weave can still tank and hold his own, if said invuln picks tough and weave aswell he can out-tank you big times , a fire tank without them it's more squishy than a DA scrapper..

Stone Melee is more end heavy than SS tho and with Invuln having some end issues already I think it can lead to some problems end-wise, especially fi you want to go for the Fighting pool for Tough and Weave(both worth it on an invuln).

Might turn up, if I feel like bearing with Nef the whole time

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Im going away tomorrow to london for a bit so might not be on tonight to much to do and all that sorry.

P.S. 32 in RF should soon be 35 then Ether and PvP ganking lol

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The P.S. makes the first line unbelieavable Rocky, you're too busy grinding to join us

Go for Inv/Stone, just because there's only one on the server

It would be perfectly doable on your own if not for the mish where you'll need 4 people to click a glowie at the same time.

The TF starts with a bunch of 'Kill X in place Y' and goes on with 'Defeat all' and 'Defeat Boss', no AVs, no timed, etc. Just slaughter a bunch of Creys, Rularuu and nemmies.

The only problem to solo it are the mish where you have to click the glowies together.

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I loved Super Strength!

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So what was so great about it, if you don't mind me asking?

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Well, I loved it because it looks damn cool in the first place(KO Blow and Footstomp are the most cool moves in the game IMO), has excellent single target damage(KO Blow and Haymaker), great AoE damage(Only at 38 with Footstomp but still, it's the second best tanker AoE, damage-wise), lots of soft control tool(knockbacks, knockdowns, stuns, an hold and the amazing knockup from Footstomp)and as icing on the cake, Rage.
Rage goes extremely well along with Invuln because Invuln's taunt aura never 'turns off' due to the Rage crash while the other primaries' taunt aura are all ineffective in the 10 seconds of the crash, due to them affecting the enemy.
So you can keep tanking using your aura and keeping the aggro, while dishing out good damage thx to Rage and not being a danger for the team because of his crash.

Other secondaries are more specialized in the various areas tho, with Fire being the AoE king but zero control, Energy the single target monster post 39, Ice king of control.

Stone and SS are a bit of everything

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It has been a waste of a power for me, i'm sure there is some way to use it effectively, I just haven't figureds that out yet

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Well, being the best phaseshift you can hope to find in the game, it has his drawbacks..
You can instantly activating it, skipping the rooting(and often killer)animation of Phaseshift and Nebulous Form..
If things get hairy or you run in a Quant or Void without noticing him and are left with a little bit of life: *PUFF* Phased and flying

Fire/Ice can still be viable imo, because you can compensate the lack of survivability of fire with the Ice Patch and make some use(the ONLY use possible, as of now)of Burn.
But you will need a buttloads of pool powers to properly call yourself a 'Tanker': Acrobatics (=CJ, SJ and Acrobatics)and at least Tough(boxing and Tough) maybe Weave aswell, due to the protection from immobs, wich lacks in the primary.

Otherwise you could go for Invuln, wich is a good mix of DEF and RES, has good mobility and a nice lvl 32 power(compared to a self rez and to a phaseshift, at least).
For secondary I'm liking nrg melee, but I'm craving lvl 35 to get a powerful attack and I loved Super Strength!Stone melee I never tried, but looks good fun and a good support for tanking.

If someone is looking for people to join and have important roles, please let me know so I can organize teams!

If you find someone else to help out(Stage I know you found another Illusionist for the PA Team )lemme know so I can sort teams out before the 3rd, avoiding a bit of chaos..

Let's start from the beginning..

Battle Drones: I would 6 slot this with 3 acc and 3 damage, due to him being lower than me, and if I'll fight higher cons, he'll be A LOT lower than them, hence the 3 acc. Is it worth it or shall I stick with only 2 acc?

More of a defender's question but let's hear more opinions: Slotting for Twilight Grasp: I was thinkin 2 acc, 3 heal, 1 rec redux. Is 2/2/2 better? Any better slotting suggested?

Tar Patch, other than 3 slots for rec redux, any other slotttin adised? Slows? End redux?

Only other question, Assault Bot: worth more than 4 slots(1acc, 3 dmg)?

I will be running Tactics with 3 slotted tohit buff and I think I'll hardly have any end issue as things are goin

Yup, anyone that can make his way into the Hive is welcome!

Tomorrow would be fine for me(21st)!

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(thought you couldnt find a team for the damn squid :P)

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Whips and cash can move the world..

The prblem with previous, failed raids has always been the fact that tankers and scrappers weren't comin cos they felt useless and lots of those with a 50 weren't comin even if they had atroller or blaster because of the long time it took to gain a single enhance.
If this plan will work as I hope, it won't take as long to take Hami down(the whole Mito phase is a good 2 hours of work)and more people will be tryin a raid because it won't waste a long time, but maybe only an hour or two.

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Wahoo!!! Gratz mate.

Why not roll an Energy Blaster for your next toon?

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Or maybe a Storm/Nrg defender
Thx to everyone that teamed with me today, Deln00b, Accel, Neutron Zio, Nova Assault and Dark Apollo for most of the day and everyone else that helped me to get there today

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The downside of this seems to be that not many people really want to face them as the one sided battles take the fun out of PvP and unless you have a full team of PvP builds, you don't really have much of a chance.

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No, you need a team full of people with PvP SKILL. There is a difference between PvE skill and PvP skill. Builds have practically nothing to do with it.

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So you mean i can come up with a Claw/SR scrapper with Flutty, Jump Kick, 2 attacks from the primary and 3 powers from the secondary, filled with pool powers and have a chance against Chives and Seiche?
Good to know, I always thought that build would've been gimped for PvP and I had no chance.


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if u had PvP skill u wudnt pick those powers....he clearly meant primary/secondary powers, if u picked sensible powers there is no reason, behind a good player, why claws/sr couldnt do well, especially as claws is getting better soon

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If the skill really was _more_ important than the build, then I could pick _any_ build and slot my powers any way I want and be as effective as anyone else.
It was like that in the old Ultima Online, before Age of Shadows ruined it all: you could've picked any skills you wanted, but with the _skill_ you could've kept up with anyone else.
These days every MMOG is goin towards a play style where you have to pick the right toon or the right class, or the right powersets to be able to keep up in pvp, skill is far less important than the build..
Skill in chosing the build? Then it's _indeed_ about the build, the PvP skill is not seen in chosing powersets, but in how you play them and if they were really balanced even a Claw/SR could keep up with some other uber build like BS/Regen..

Hear ye Hear ye!
I would like to make everyone of you know that being the Union Overlords full I'll be making some kicking between people with at least 31 days of inactivity, so please if you have an alt you want to keep in there, just log every now and then to reset the counter.
Or if you have an alt you'll never play again, please make him leave the SG and when you'll have once again the will to play him we'll easily have you invited again!
Thanks for the cohoperation(spellig?).

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I would come but I'm out of the country

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Hehe, sounds as a good enough excuse

There's more tankers in there, but I had to choose since we'll need only 1 team that taunts and it is VERY important that no one else but them taunts Hami.

Atm we're lacking on kinetics, but if we manage to get at least 8 of em we'll be good to go and attempt this, things are lookin a bit better tho, @Shades said he/she will bring his/her Kin defender, X3 and probably his mate will be there, so we already have probably 7, anyway the more the merrier!
Point any troller you know to this raid, since we'll need like 25+ to hold him, even with the epic holders.