Jiaozy

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I might see if i can't get to 18 before tomorrow then.

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Oi! No villany, we need you for the Raid

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I have the Van guard. Can I be on both the Rad team and the holding team? Will this be possible?

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If you're a controller with Rad I would like you to join the rad team and spam as many holds as you can beetween an AM and the other

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So where do I sign up for this Hamidon Raid

Agent Jan spin/reg scrapper with hold

and do I have to leave my sigar?

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Leave everything at home, just bring spandex and a tech helm, look at the Guide in the OP for more details on the cossie

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Defenders can get Power Build Up in an EPP. Slot these powers with 3recharges if possible.

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Actually, for defenders the Psi Mastery pool would be much better with 2 holds: Talekinesis that is a toggle, so no need to spam it, toggle and forget, and Dominate wich is the one to spam

I'll also ask the rad team to toggle Radiation Infection on, to help floor his defence and make everyone able to hit him even without Acc enhance in the holds due to him having no defence and the multiple stacked tactics.

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nova, it is not as strong as its counterpart.

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I can outdamage a blaster any day with my WS, but after a nuke I'm left with 85% resistance to all types of damage and full end and health..
On a map full of Psi foes (mother Mayhem or the Psi clocks)there's nothing as powerful as an Eclipsed WS

Honestly I see your point talking of PBs(not any offence meant)because they're kinda low damage scrappers in human form and they perform a lot worse than a WS in shapshifts..

But a properly played tryform WS can be astounding, seeing is believing tho

The Deviants killed Hamidon tonight, hope we'll do the same again tomorrow!

If the Kin cell tactic will be a failure we'll make it the old way, clearing Mitos and all that, I hope that we'll be able to make this tactic work, tho!

If the planned tactic fails and we'll have to make it the old way it will take me a few minutes to set things up, I already have a basic idea for the tasks, but hopefully we won't need a plan B.

What's the song?
I like it a lot, best thing of the whole video

The music is the same as in the Elernet PvP video N2, his quality is much higher tho
The UI is nice if they're showing game sequence.
I hope you'll show something more than just hangin near Lusca or spamming holds to 3 DEs

Hamidon is basically a big bad blob, that takes 100+ heroes to take down and a lot of efforts.
Sorry but lvl 18 is indeed far too low, not because I don't want you but because you can't phisically enter the zone in wich he's in, unless you're lvl 45+.
The main reason to try and take him down is because he drops and enhancement that gives a bonus to 2 aspect of a power, (damage and accuracy, accuracy and range and so on).
Looking forward to see you there soon

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Guys dont forget that the only toggles you need 2 turn on are mez protection. Hami does untyped damage which means ur shields will only incrase the lag. They will NOT save u you so turn em off.

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Well spotted, in fact, I hope we won't need even those because of the AM res to mez effects, if anything else fails, I'll have a bubbler(and only one)to turn on Dispersion Field to keep us mez free.

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02) --> Blind==> Acc(2) EndopExp(3) Hold(3) Hold(5) Rechg(5) Rechg(7)
you want 2 recharges in there, its faster for stacking holds. Lets do a little experiment about slotting holds. 2 acc 3 hold 1 recharge or 2 acc 1 hold 3 recharges? Which one gets through mez protections first?, the 1 with recharges 5secs+5secs+5sec+5secs is much faster than 10secs+10secs+10secs+10secs, and stacking potential is about the same.

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There are 2 recharges in there, the Endoplasm Exposure is Acc+Mez HO.

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10) --> Hover==> Fly(10) Fly(46) Fly(46)
Lets take a time out to discuss travelpowers. Having a travel power is your best protection from melee and you way to run if things are bad for you. There is no reason to fight if your completly debuffed, IMO fight when its good for you, not on your opponents terms.
So what do we need from this, well if your fighting a guy like Chives, who has absolutly no jumps you just siphon speed him if your health is getting low and run the hell out of there to recharge your powers if the fight is going wrong. The problem is this tactic can also be used against you, movement slows are very very nasty in this came and jumping arround allmost negates them, so you prolly want some kind of jump power. Fly and Running are easily stopped. But there still is a few powers with - jump so its normal for people to have a back up. So you have 2 options, forgetting about IR and gettin combat jump, superjump and acrobatics or taking IR and getting other powers. Believe me you want 1 of those.
In general you want to have 2 travelpowers in PvP, 1 main and 1 backup if the first one gets one of the counters on it. If you want hover, perhaps go IR and hover and skip ss.

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I'm gone with just hover cos it's both vertical movement and KB Protection, also it stacks with Syphon Speed and gives a nice and fast travel power..
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12) --> Siphon Speed==> Acc(12) Acc(29) Slow(31) Rechg(31) Rechg(34) Rechg(34)
Skip the slow, it only affects movement slows and its good enough from the base value. This power is mostly to enhance your own recharge and to stop non jumpers from getting away. I would prolly change the slow to a range.

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The slow in here boosts both my running speed and the slow debuff on the target, so it cripples SSeder and gives me a nice unsuppressed running bonus.
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14) --> Super Speed==> Run(14)
Needs an end red and perhaps a run more. In PvP you sometimes try to get over the cap to alow for some extra debuffs.

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Will try and find those slots..

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22) --> Increase Density==> DmgRes(22)
This is one of those powers that are superb for teams and would be awesome if you have slots for it. 1 range is a minimum. Buffing in PvP with people running all over the place demands ranges. Best slotting is 3 dam res 2 range 1 recharge. Then if you start needing slots you go take the 3 dam out first, then the recharge then the range.

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Would this be useless as a 1 vs 1 build?


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35) --> Transference==> Acc(35) Acc(36) EndMod(36) EndMod(36) Rechg(37) Rechg(37)
Hm I would prolly slot 2 acc 3 end. With powerboost its really nice to spike people's end. You can get arround half so wait for it.

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I thought of it but as said before, the difference between 1 and 2 recharge is more than 5 seconds if Hasten and Syphon Speed are down so I'd like to keep it as it is, need to test it tho..

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44) --> Temp Invulnerability==> DmgRes(44) DmgRes(45) DmgRes(45) Rechg(45)
It recharges fast, get an end or 2 in there.

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Meant to be an end redux :S

Big Grats dude, sorry I wasn't around!
Well done!

With Fulcrum Shift only on the stack, what would you pick instead?
I was thinkin either of Repel or Superior Invis with something like this


Primary: Illusion Control
Secondary: Kinetics
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01) --> Spectral Wounds==> Acc(1) Acc(15) Dmg(15) Dmg(17) Dmg(17) Rechg(25)
01) --> Transfusion==> Acc(1) Acc(7) Heal(11) Heal(11) Heal(13) Rechg(13)
02) --> Blind==> Acc(2) EndopExp(3) Hold(3) Hold(5) Rechg(5) Rechg(7)
04) --> Siphon Power==> Acc(4) Acc(43) Rechg(46) Rechg(48) Rechg(50)
06) --> Swift==> Run(6)
08) --> Hasten==> Rechg(8) Rechg(9) Rechg(9)
10) --> Hover==> Fly(10) Fly(46) Fly(46)
12) --> Siphon Speed==> Acc(12) Acc(29) Slow(31) Rechg(31) Rechg(34) Rechg(34)
14) --> Super Speed==> Run(14)
16) --> Health==> Heal(16)
18) --> Phantom Army==> Dmg(18) Dmg(19) Dmg(19) Rechg(23) Rechg(23) Rechg(25)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(21) EndMod(21)
22) --> Increase Density==> DmgRes(22)
24) --> Assault==> EndRdx(24)
26) --> Tactics==> TH_Buf(26) TH_Buf(27) TH_Buf(27) EndRdx(29)
28) --> Spectral Terror==> Acc(28) Acc(37) Range(40)
30) --> Deceive==> Acc(30) Acc(31) ConfDur(40) ConfDur(40)
32) --> Phantasm==> Acc(32) Acc(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(34)
35) --> Transference==> Acc(35) Acc(36) EndMod(36) EndMod(36) Rechg(37) Rechg(37)
38) --> Repel/Superior Invis==> EndRdx(38) EndRdx(39) EndRdx(39) Rechg(39)
41) --> Power Blast==> Acc(41) Acc(42) Dmg(42) Dmg(42) Dmg(43) Rechg(43)
44) --> Temp Invulnerability==> DmgRes(44) DmgRes(45) DmgRes(45) Rechg(45)
47) --> Power Boost==> Rechg(47) Rechg(48) Rechg(48)
49) --> Speed Boost==> EndMod(49) EndMod(50) EndMod(50)

The slots in Transference I think they won't be changed cos IF and only IF I have _both_ Hasten AND Syphon Speed running I can get the recharge you mentioned but since Hasten ain't perma and Syphon Speed can miss if they're both down the difference in the recharge is 5-6 seconds between 1 recharge and 2.
Any other opinion about it?

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Might want to put a Resistance enhancement in Increase Density, as I understand the recharge isn't much more than the time it takes to speed boost something afterwards, so that doesn't matter.

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Yeh I just put the wrong enhancement in it

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Deceive I think doesn't need Recharges, it's more something that you should just drop on something when you've got spare time, not really very spammable.

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Uhmm, so 2 acc and 2 confuse can do the trick?
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What are you making the build for? team PvP or soloing?. Cause your build is way off for a team build and its not optimised for soloing.

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1 vs 1 mainly, any tips on how to make it look better?
I thought of dropping fulcrum myself as I see how it can be of little use, but it just seems wrong to have a kin without Fulcrum

Would Superior Invis or Repel worth picking instead of Fulcrum?

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doh, little typo... should be diabolique [..] dominatrix of course

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There's a mish in wich you have to fight Dominatrix and recover some drugs ([censored] THAT PLACE IS HEAVEN!!! )and another one with Dominatrix and Marauder, was hoping you had both, but now my hopes are gone

I thought of it but van't find a place to put in in

Since I've tried out the arena some times, but I noticed the lack of a decent build for my controller, I was thinkin of respecing him to a build more PvP oriented, not being an expert and goin from what I've seen and read I was thinking of something like this:

Primary: Illusion Control
Secondary: Kinetics

01) --> Spectral Wounds==> Acc(1) Acc(15) Dmg(15) Dmg(17) Dmg(17) Rechg(25)
01) --> Transfusion==> Acc(1) Acc(7) Heal(11) Heal(11) Heal(13) Rechg(13)
02) --> Blind==> Acc(2) EndopExp(3) Hold(3) Hold(5) Rechg(5) Rechg(7)
04) --> Siphon Power==> Acc(4) Acc(40) Rechg(43) Rechg(46) Rechg(50)
06) --> Swift==> Run(6)
08) --> Hasten==> Rechg(8) Rechg(9) Rechg(9)
10) --> Hover==> DefBuf(10)
12) --> Siphon Speed==> Acc(12) Acc(29) Slow(31) Rechg(31) Rechg(34) Rechg(34)
14) --> Super Speed==> Run(14)
16) --> Health==> Heal(16)
18) --> Phantom Army==> Dmg(18) Dmg(19) Dmg(19) Rechg(23) Rechg(23) Rechg(25)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(21) EndMod(21)
22) --> Increase Density==> Rechg(22)
24) --> Assault==> EndRdx(24)
26) --> Tactics==> TH_Buf(26) TH_Buf(27) TH_Buf(27) EndRdx(29)
28) --> Spectral Terror==> Acc(28) Acc(40)
30) --> Deceive==> Acc(30) Acc(31) ConfDur(37) ConfDur(46) Rechg(46) Rechg(48)
32) --> Phantasm==> Acc(32) Acc(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(34)
35) --> Transference==> Acc(35) Acc(36) EndMod(36) EndMod(36) Rechg(37) Rechg(37)
38) --> Fulcrum Shift==> Acc(38) Acc(39) Rechg(39) Rechg(39) Rechg(40)
41) --> Power Blast==> Acc(41) Acc(42) Dmg(42) Dmg(42) Dmg(43) Rechg(43)
44) --> Temp Invulnerability==> DmgRes(44) DmgRes(45) DmgRes(45) EndRdx(45)
47) --> Power Boost==> Rechg(47) Rechg(48) Rechg(48)
49) --> Speed Boost==> EndMod(49) EndMod(50) EndMod(50)


Anything blatantly wrong?
Any tips?

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I read the guide, I think its a sure way to crash the server.

As far as I know US left from this strategi when ED hit, cause the kin / healing cells werent strong enough. But Im really interested in how it turns out and good luck.

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They were using this strategy after ED, so I think that with the right numbers it can be done, we'll see if we get enough people.

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My favorite is Psi, no doubt.
Mez resistance, cool looking shield and the best attack you can hope for a troller

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Strange, everything i have ever heard about mental blast has been awful. Is it different in the troller epics as i know that /psi defenders usually feel quite resentful at having to take it at lvl 1.

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I assume they mean the level 47 power, Psychic Tornado?

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Ops, sorry my bad!
Indeed, Mental Blast does good damage but has like 15 minutes of rooting animation....
Psi Tornado on the other hand is damn awesome.

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dominatrix, [...] dominatrix

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May I join?

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I might not be able to make it as my pooter is deaded I guess if it's fixed by then I'll turn up, otherwise

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For a PvE controller, fire epic is the only thing to even consider, fireball with containment is so good it's not even funny, the blast is great, shield is decent, and consume is good or great depending on your secondary.

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If you think that Fireball does less damage than Pési Tornado you have the picture of Psi epic...
My favorite is Psi, no doubt.
Mez resistance, cool looking shield and the best attack you can hope for a troller.
Fire is also very good for damage, from Primal Forces the only power worth picking is Power Boost wich is VERY useful on a mez heavy troller like yours, the blast does pants damage, the shield only has res to Smash and Lethal and Conserve Power is a bit MEH on a troller...

You can get Fire to have lots of damage straight away, then respec to Psi whne you're 47-48 to get the best epic pool for trollers(imo)
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(would recommend Primal if you want to PvP)

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From what I can see, if you want to PvP with a troller the only way to go is Psi, Indom Will can save you lots of times and save you loads of BF slots in the insp tray on wich you can put something else.

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Morning all - My Earth/Rad is now at 44 so with some hard work over the w/e 45 is easily in range - Jiaozy would u rather I brought him over Cold Spark (my Nrg Ice 50)? I don't mind debt (I'd be coming expecting to hit the cap )

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OMG Earth/Rad!
Sure, if you really don't mind that would be a huge plus to our chance of holding him!
You have AM, Fossilize, Volcanic Gasses and maybe EMP Shockwave, right? Not asking for Choking Cloud since it's a bit rubbish for a troller, but those powers are all more than welcome

I think the cap for it is 10, never seen more buff icons with a single kineticist on the team.

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