Jade_Warrior

Nice to see so many people padding their post count.

How many of you actually spend time in game leveling toon?

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Way to derail a good thread folks

Well - gotta dis-agree with some points.

A true cox veteran is someone that plays the game and not sits in the forum posting 1 word comments to padd their post count.

Plus the language thing - no. I'm a veteran and my language is colourful.

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I very much doubt that Leipzig will be the only means of obtaining these codes

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I hope so.

Otherwise you'll have a VERY upset player here.

Oh boy. Here we go again.

Those number make interesting reading but we know that numbers can be "adjusted".

Nothing would please me more then to believe thatthe actual player base was increasing. However what this report shows in the number of concurrent users being logged on at the same time. I don't believe you can use this report to say that subscription numbers are up.

Okay - enough DOOOOOOOOOOOM(tm). On with the game!

/e waits for news of i13

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The actual story is very engaging as it is. Why would PCC stop the people you mention doing 'freek papurz!'?

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What story? In Paper missions? Thats a story?


[/ QUOTE ]Because paper missions are all there is in the game, yes?

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There is more then just paper missions. Fact.

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no nerfs are needed atm but it is a friday so i spose its allowed

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Well I was i nthe office and had to something ...

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They should just add freak sapper lts.

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Well it would stop people doing Freak missions. Not sure I agree though.

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Meh i wasn't being agressive, but all you find after each nerf, is another nerf suggestion its annoying as hell. And i can't see your point sorry, ever thought of the idea people enjoy doing the freaks, yes maybe because they give nice XP, but possibly they also enjoy that? besides, who says these people that are "missing out" are actually missing out? maybe there prespective of fun isn't the same as yours.

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All fair and vaild points. Thanks for the input.

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G-i-v-e I-t U-p!

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Give what up? Please, if you have a point to make explain it.

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Its so annoying when all people want is nerfs, ruining the game because THEY don't like how its currently working. I'm all up for ideas that are CONSTRUCTIVE to how the game currently is working. Please let me see the constructive side to this stupid idea?

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Thank you for spelling out your point - however I don't think the aggressive tone was called for (i.e. the caps).

My point is that a lot of good content is missed by players only doing the Newspaper missions because of they give better XP (or atleast it is believed by some that they give better XP - I think the jury is out on that).

I thought one reason the Newspapers were introduced was to make sure that players had a supply of missions when their arc contacts ran dry. (I might be wrong).

By lowering the XP available in Newspaper mission it might "encourgage" people to go back to the arcs and remind themselves waht they've been missing.

Apologies if I've miss read your post and you weren't being aggressive.

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G-i-v-e I-t U-p!

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Give what up? Please, if you have a point to make explain it.

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The actual story is very engaging as it is. Why would PCC stop the people you mention doing 'freek papurz!'?

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What story? In Paper missions? Thats a story?

Interesting point of view.

Wow - some interesting points of view raised so far.

I guess part of my issue is on a team doing nothing but Freak missions (and Newspapers in general) it gets more then a little repeatitive.

Personally I hope the mission creator allows us (thats the community) to design more engaging missions, as to please the majority of us.

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Dear oh dear, if it aint farming ruining the game for people, its teams wanting to do paper missions.

Now freaks, give it up mate.

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I have no problem with Farming or Newspaper missions in general - it's this growing fetish for Freak only teams that I am growing tired of.

Okay - I'm on standby to be shot down in flames

*Disclaimer*
This is my own personal opinion and does not reflect the opinions of others. If you can't respect personal opinions please leave this thread
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Freakshow. I believe it's time these tin-plated vandals got an XP nerf.

Why?

I am tired of being on teams that only want to do Freakshow missions. Recently it seems that teams I have been on (different toons at different levels) have only done Freak missions because of the XP they offer. Freaks in warehouse, Freaks in office, Freaks in sewers, etc… I've read in a couple of recent posts that I am not the only one to notice this.

I don't follow all the figures like XP per second so don't fully understand why or how Freaks can offer more XP per second then other mob types.

I am starting to feel that I am missing out on content by teaming. If I want to do arcs am I going to have to build my own teams and listen to the moans when I don't deliver Freakshow missions?

Maybe the game needs to be changed so that Freaks are only available within a certain lvl range - and not perma available via Newspapers, or maybe it is an XP nerf that’s needed. Or perhaps it’s the actual Newspaper missions that need to be nerf’d so that they don’t offer as much XP as arc missions (i.e. reduce the XP for Newspaper missions by 50% mobs and bonus).

These are just my own thoughts on a subject that is starting to get on my nerves a little.

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You seem to assume a lot of things that arn't true.

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I am not the only one am I.

And you also agreed that I was correct that a buff could increase the damage output - therefore my assumption could have been correct.

If your going to pick holes in my replies - make sure your own are water tight first.

Moi? Confused?

I don't think so.

A buff is anything that increases the effectiveness of a toon. Therefore an increase to the damage output would be a buff. No statement was made as to what sort of buff should be given.

My most only assumed the buff would be to the damage output.

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So you would like to see a fire controllers primary buffed?

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Yes pls - my roller can't out blast a blaster....

Praf68 - you're not making much sense here.

You don't want to Nerf rollers, but you want to change their inhernt power....

But changing the inhernt to something that will cause them to deal less damage is a nerf... but you don't want to nerf them, but you want to change their inhernt...

anyone else's head hurt?

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I wasn't trying to prove anything, so I don't know what your problem is. I simply asked a "what if" question.


And for the umteeth time, I DON'T CARE IF YOU ARE A BALDY FARMER SO GET OVER YOUR PARANOIA ALREADY.

I do think there are problems with containment conceptualy (which has absolutely nothing to do with farming. If the devs think farming is a problem then it needs to be tackled through the rewards system). I do think it is a problem if an inherent benefits someone who chooses a "high damage" primary more than a "high control" primary. Your comparison with scrappers is false. Claws and BS do equvelent damage, it just that claws does it with many small attacks, while BS does it with fewer larger attacks. But most imprtantly, a scrappers primary function is to do damage, and they have an inherent that helps them with thier primary fuction.

I would love it if my controller inherent made me more effective against AVs. I would give up a lot of aoe damage for that.

I think the defender and tanker inherents need to be looked at too (gauntlet is fine conceptually, but doesn't work well enough in practice).

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no need to shout.

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Yes, im asking for buffs.

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But you have a problem with Containment? Which is a buff to help controllers!!

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He seems to be getting confused with himself, a sign of a poorly thought out thread??

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Where the hell is this complete safety part come from. My farmer dies regually but it doesnt bother me either. The safety of a farming toon comes from the fact that the toon is 50 and debt is irelavant.

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I said almost complete safety. Surely you aren't arguing against the idea that a Controller operates from a position of vastly greater safety than a Blaster?

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Position is no guarantee of safety.

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Where the hell is this complete safety part come from. My farmer dies regually but it doesnt bother me either. The safety of a farming toon comes from the fact that the toon is 50 and debt is irelavant.

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You sometimes get defeated?

It's true, fire/kin sucks. Ill/TA FTW.

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To be fair - it's not his build that lets him down, it's his play style. If he puts his mind to it he can out last a stone tank, going toe to toe with an AV. And yes - I've seen it.

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Why say you can when you havn't tested the latest game version?

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I know I could with the previous version, by a margin greater than the 12.5% buff. It's not an easy thing to set up and test though (part of the problem being oil slick damage not showing in combat logs).

But I notice you are not challenging me on:

Controllers outdamaging Dominators, Defenders, or Stalkers, all of which are listed as medium or high damage ATs, whilst controllers are listed as "low damage" in the in game AT description.

Maybe we should keep containment as is and change the in game description of controllers from low damage to high damage?

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How can I? I don't have any of those ATs that are built as damage dealers. Therefore I can't and won't be drawn on the issue one way or the other.

There is very little point my trying to join a debate on a subject I don't know. Kinda like asking for a nerf on a toon type you've never played.

It is not logical.

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I don't think that's entirely true, especially after the revision of Defiance.

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I certainly haven't tested it after the changes to defiance, so you could be right.

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So.......

Why say you can when you havn't tested the latest game version?

Isn't that like saying my blaster in issue 1 could one shot an AV now???

I think someone needs to get off their high horse (no names)and join us in the real world (well Paragon City anyway).

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also, the customers don't have access to all the information that the developers have.

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But you seem to think you do! I've come to notice

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I seem to recall someone around here going to get a hosepipe...