HelinCarnate

Totally with yea there. While on paper the nerf seems to be ok, my EM/WP was just no fun to use anymore after the nerf. On teams, sometimes it felt like I was doing more damage to myself than the mobs. You would wind up for TF or ET and either do very little damge because their health bar was so low due to your friends AoE or do no damage because the mob you were getting ready to hit was dead by the time you were done with your animation.

I could live with the longer cast time on ET if it was still the 1 second quick punch followed by a 1.67 second root time where you are recovering from the drain in HP.

It works well with just about anything. Stone, Ice, Fire, Dark and Elec have damage aruas that cause mobs to try and run away when they get low on health. Ice patch hleps keep mobs in check.

Frozen aura is great mitigation for minions. With lots of mobs around you if solo, you can put the little stuff to sleep, concentrate on the boss and still feed RTTC, Invincibility or AAO.

Also adding more slows to mud pots is always a luagh.


What it does not go well with is trying to kill stuff fast solo.

Mixed feelings on this one. While I do like the idea of not having to worry about what level your team is, I can also see how people would PL using certain arcs and also try and bypass the level requirements for some accolades. Granted this can be done already but with much more effort without the use of the flashback system.

Mark it down in history folks. I did not totally dissagree with the OP.

DR HR above makes a good point. I have actually got a team together with the following broadcast on a low population server late at night.

"Looking to fail an RSF just to get the Annihilator badge for accolade"

As soon as we got the badge we quit. Just random pug group and not all of us were 50s.

I have watched the video several dozen times and finally took the time to time the attacks from start to back to ready position. Previously I just counted in my head and for some reason that was inaccurate, go figure. Times listed are still estimates of course and feel free to let me know if you came up with different numbers.

First attack - About 1 second: (thank you http://www.online-stopwatch.com) KD or low KB. Either way the mob fell down and did not go flying.

2nd attack shown. About 1.5 seconds: No target in sight. Could speculate that this would be a focus like ranged attack but too early to tell. Could just be they wanted that angle for the shot.

3rd attack shown - Just over 2 seconds: Only showed part of the mob so hard to say if it was KD or KB. To me it looked like KB . If it is I can only pray that this is a low damage attack so I can skip it.

4th attack shown - Just over 2 seconds: Seemed to be a slightly higher range (10' maybe) single target KD attack.

5th attack shown - About 2.3 seconds: Best guess would be soul drain type build up power.

6th attack shown - Maybe 3 seconds, did not show end of animation: Another KD attack. I would hope extreme damage due to the long animation time. No guess on the range since the start of the attack on the video showed only the Hero and the end showed only the mob.

7th attack shown - Just under 2 seconds: Similar to 6th with shorter animation.

8th attack shown - Just over 2 seconds: AOE (I hope) or could be cone KB. Would guess mag .67 as one of the mobs fell down and the other (guessing lower level mob) was tossed back.

Throw in Taunt and there are all the powers in the set.

It seems that several of the attacks are longer than the 7' range. Either that or I am not that good at judging distance. Could be either. Would this be bad for a melee type toon? I say no. For a brute or a tanker you are probably going to be face to face with a ton of mobs anyway so not a big deal. The extra range would be nice to get to a boss that is behind several other mobs instead of having to jump over them and reposition yourself. For scrappers and stalkers, you get the bonus of not having to be in the middle of the group to do decent damage. Looks like a win win win.

As far as the worry of mobs flying everywhere, there was only 1 that you can be pretty sure has knockback and maybe a 2nd but no way to know for sure at this point. If you are crying doom or just plain crying about this at this point, please go to your doctor and let them know you have crainialrectosis. Then come back to the forums when you are cured.

My new main concern is the animation time. The time of the video to show all 7 attacks and BU type power goes from 1:45 to 2:08. A small amount of that time showed the mobs falling but not much so Ill say 2 seconds to be nice. That is about 21 seconds for all those attacks. This is vastly higher than any other melee set. Even if you remove the extra second for the soul drain type BU vs. normal BU you get 20 seconds. At worst fire for tanks comes in at 16.37 to fire off all its attacks and BU. There are a couple scrapper sets below 12 seconds. (This is using Arcanatime not the time in Mids.)

Now at this point it is only a concern and not a complaint because we have no damage numbers. If slower attacks mean higher damage or the set has a lot of cone attacks but the devs only used one mob in the video then the slower attacks may be justified. If not, then this set may turn into a must have for PvP and meh for PvE. Still to early to say anything for sure though.