Godfall

I have a fellow friend who is a spine/sr which is simular to nin and he does torture the CALL

If u need build advice give me a shout.

In short yes it is v v good you should have fun with it

Been reading your form post's and yes both are good builds but i have my own probs with little bit's and pecies.

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ESPECIALLY the Def-Buff in Hide is useless. It is true that you have a very high Defense with Hide, BUT you that only applies as long as you are "Hidden". Effectively, the high Defense automatically drops once you are noticed or you attacked, leaving you with such a low Defense Bonus given by Hide not worth noticing. Just slot Hide with 1-2 End Redu.

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You say that this is not worth sloting with defence due to the drop that I cant agree with it is def worth sloting all be it later in lvl's.
Even in a PVE part of the game it is worth it due to being int large teams of 8 splash aoe damage from oncoming npc's with be dodged and evaded with the extra sloting.
Now in a PVP part of the game you will need it 3 slotted more of a need due to ppl using nasty aoe base moves so that they unhide stalkers.
4 sloting the power later in lvls best choice imo.

Next thing I think that would hinder both your builds is
slot alocation. My example of this is you Stamina you get this power at lvl 20 lvl 21 should be ample enough to 3 slot this power or energy transfer you started slotting that at lvl 31.

Here is a perposed build that will help u slot and understand slotting your powers.

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name:
Level: 50
Archetype: Stalker
Primary: Energy Melee
Secondary: Energy Aura
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01) --> Energy Punch==> Dmg(1)Dmg(13)Dmg(15)Acc(17)
01) --> Hide==> DefBuf(1)DefBuf(13)EndRdx(19)
02) --> Kinetic Shield==> DefBuf(2)DefBuf(3)DefBuf(3)
04) --> Power Shield==> DefBuf(4)DefBuf(5)DefBuf(5)
06) --> Assassin's Strike==> Dmg(6)Dmg(7)Dmg(7)Acc(9)Acc(15)
08) --> Build Up==> Rechg(8)Rechg(9)Rechg(11)TH_Buf(17)TH_Buf(19)TH_Buf(37)
10) --> Entropy Shield==> EndRdx(10)EndRdx(11)
12) --> Combat Jumping==> Empty(12)
14) --> Super Jump==> Empty(14)
16) --> Swift==> Empty(16)
18) --> Health==> Empty(18)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20)EndMod(21)EndMod(21)
22) --> Bone Smasher==> Dmg(22)Dmg(23)Dmg(23)Acc(25)Acc(31)
24) --> Placate==> Rechg(24)Rechg(25)Rechg(34)
26) --> Energy Transfer==> Dmg(26)Dmg(27)Dmg(27)Acc(29)Acc(29)
28) --> Stealth==> EndRdx(28)
30) --> Energy Drain==> EndMod(30)EndMod(31)EndMod(31)Rechg(36)Rechg(37)Rechg(37)
32) --> Total Focus==> Dmg(32)Dmg(33)Dmg(33)Acc(33)Acc(34)EndRdx(34)
35) --> Conserve Power==> Rechg(35)Rechg(36)Rechg(36)
38) --> Overload==> Rechg(38)Rechg(39)Rechg(39)Heal(39)Heal(40)Heal(40)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
01) --> Assassination==> Empty(1)
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I consider slotting most important with it comes to a stalker and btw I could reduce my acc slot by 1.
As you have said you do hit and runs I would recommend you live by build up.

I also consider lvl 40 to 50 more an open choice. Hope this helps

You should post up a hero builder layout of your build would be intrested in seeing how you have slotted your powers to lvl 34.

Currently goin to be rolling a em/dark stalker myself.

I petty much got from lvl 1 to 22 with only energy punch and AS but in saying that I also had the perk of sands of mu.
I would conside my build good but in saying that I am em so I am kinda raw power so 2 shotting most things is a cert. I have also bassed my toon on getting my secondary, fitness and travel power sorted before I contunited on my primary due lookin at the long term of my toon and slotting alocation.
I didnt get placate till lvl 28 but as I have said before due to em I found it more of a luxcury than needed.

These are just my thoughs on the matter.

As in when your out of hide...well still have around 30%+ and well most of the time you will gib most targets.

Still worth slotting

Hide I would def consider slotting before 9 teir secondary power givein you a nice 58% defense against AOE.

Plus later down the line you can afford to 4 slot your powers with an end-reductions.

2 things I can recoment is get your build up earlier and start your fitness tree will be more helpful in the long run.

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Thanks for the tip! Actually, I did something similar to what you propose and I respec'd like this:

01) --> Sting of the Wasp==>
01) --> Hide==>
02) --> Ninja Reflexes==>
04) --> Danger Sense==>
06) --> Assassin's Blade==>
08) --> Flashing Steel (Cone Attack)

from here on, I think I will go more or less for something like this:

10) --> Combat Jumping==> Empty(10)
12) --> Placate
14) --> Super Jump==> Empty(14)
16) --> Build Up

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This is the problem that your goin to run into and both of of you's have forgot what about stamina getting placate at lvl will for you to leave stamina till lvl 24 + which is imo cripling yourself.
Dont forget you have to get at lvl 16 kuji-rin (mez protection) at lvl 20 or 22 your kuji-sha (self-heal)
and in among that you have to get devine avalanche (very good defence + power)
Getting placate at lvl 12 pushes all these powers back and in my mind I would rather have them than placate.

BTW I already tried and test the build I suggested and works fantasticly in pve.

hmmm thats all good but if your solo'in most of the time u rarely need placate due to killing whoever to quick plus i am suggestion a pvp/pve build style cost u really dont need stealth if your only pve.
imo placate is a nessary in pvp I wouldn't consider as much in pve. I have lvl a em stalker from 1 to 28 without placate then took the power to conserve choice and sloting.
Most ppl forget how tight stalker builds are dont try and use one as a srapper btw.

I would say u have 1 to many attacks atm instead of flashing steel get your second toggle and instead of combat jumping get build up and use the hit and run style

petty much this set up u want
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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name:
Level: 50
Archetype: Stalker
Primary: Ninja Blade
Secondary: Ninjitsu
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01) --> Sting of the Wasp==> Empty(1)
01) --> Hide==> Empty(1)
02) --> Ninja Reflexes==> Empty(2)
04) --> Danger Sense==> Empty(4)
06) --> Assassin's Blade==> Empty(6)
08) --> Build Up==> Empty(8)
10) --> Combat Jumping==> Empty(10)
12) --> Swift==> Empty(12)
14) --> Super Jump==> Empty(14)
16) --> Kuji-In Rin==> Empty(16)
18) --> Health==> Empty(18)
20) --> Stamina==> Empty(20)
22) --> Kuji-In Sha==> Empty(22)
24) --> Divine Avalanche==> Empty(24)
26) --> Soaring Dragon==> Empty(26)
28) --> Placate==> Empty(28)
30) --> Stealth==> Empty(30)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
01) --> Assassination==> Empty(1)
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better to leave your attacks till later me thinks

Spines is great as I was teamed with someone with spines/sr from lvl 1 to 32 but as all stalkers it was a slow starter.

Spine/nin will be a good power choice
em/nin will be another good power choice

With dm I didnt really enjoy it as much due to the lack of damage but you should pick what you think suits you best and what you might think your play style is.
If your wanting to lay down serious amounts of damage fast I would recomend em. (for pvp/pve em is good)

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I just met a person today who says that he pvps a lot, but that he prefers defiant because union is unsportsmanlike..

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Imho in defient I was dispointed with pvp aspect plus when I was last on there was a lot of regen stalkers thinking they were the 1337 crew of the world.
I find union has more crafted pvp players sometimes but neither server is better than the other.

I have had a siens calll build till recently there and i was slotted 2 acc 3 damage I put my extra slot on my build up.
4 sloted build up ftw in the call will cream nearly anything. (at lvl 50 I have it 5 sloted)

Plus I find that in the later lvls when you cycle through your chain of attacks your AS will be waiting for you again.

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If it's a PvP build, MA/Regen is the best.

Hmmmm well I've seen missions completed with a Stalker and a Mastermind so a Stalker and a Mastermind would make a good duo.

PvE can be Broad Sword/Katana/Claws.

Good luck with your first Stalker.

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Hmmmmmmm broad sword ... intresting choice considering it anit a stalker set and MA/REGEN is a substandered set for pvp.

I would say it depends on what your other half is planning to be.
Spine/nin or sr
em/nin or sr
dm/nin or sr
All have there advantages disadvantages I just personal like em/sr late bloomer but will pack a hell of a punch.

I would say regen is good just not my play style.

Is there a particalur day when this will be happening wouldnt mind taging along

Shouldn't stand still and explect not to be hit by any stalker newbie/non-newbies. EM shouldnt be nerfed aswell as you have said tf only crit's on one part and et doesnt even crit.
All fair in war

For both of your builds that you have both posted up I would say imho are both kinda flawed.
Your both playing these toons as you would scrappers I would say trying to grab as many attacks as you can. You can survice with just 2 attacks till lvl 22 but is hard going.(now since your pve u will want prob an attack before that)
This is the build I am curtiently runing (mine is a bit of a pvp build to but works effectively in pve to)

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name:
Level: 50
Archetype: Stalker
Primary: Energy Melee
Secondary: Super Reflexes
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01) --> Energy Punch==> Dmg(1)Dmg(15)Dmg(19)Acc(19)Acc(43)
01) --> Hide==> DefBuf(1)DefBuf(3)DefBuf(34)EndRdx(37)
02) --> Focused Fighting==> DefBuf(2)DefBuf(3)DefBuf(5)EndRdx(37)
04) --> Focused Senses==> DefBuf(4)DefBuf(5)DefBuf(9)EndRdx(37)
06) --> Assassin's Strike==> Dmg(6)Dmg(7)Dmg(7)Acc(9)Acc(13)
08) --> Build Up==> TH_Buf(8)TH_Buf(11)Rechg(13)Rechg(15)
10) --> Hasten==> Rechg(10)Rechg(11)Rechg(36)
12) --> Swift==> Empty(12)
14) --> Super Speed==> Empty(14)
16) --> Practiced Brawler==> Rechg(16)Rechg(17)Rechg(17)
18) --> Health==> Heal(18)Heal(40)Heal(43)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20)EndMod(21)EndMod(21)
22) --> Bone Smasher==> Dmg(22)Dmg(23)Dmg(23)Acc(25)Acc(25)
24) --> Stealth==> DefBuf(24)DefBuf(42)EndRdx(42)
26) --> Energy Transfer==> Dmg(26)Dmg(27)Dmg(27)Acc(29)Acc(29)Rechg(36)
28) --> Placate==> Rechg(28)Rechg(31)Rechg(34)
30) --> Dodge==> DefBuf(30)DefBuf(31)DefBuf(31)DefBuf(42)
32) --> Total Focus==> Dmg(32)Dmg(33)Dmg(33)Acc(33)Acc(34)EndRdx(36)
35) --> Quickness==> Run(35)
38) --> Elude==> DefBuf(38)DefBuf(39)DefBuf(39)Rechg(39)Rechg(40)Rechg(40)
41) --> Moonbeam==> Dmg(41)Dmg(43)Acc(46)Acc(48)EndRdx(50)
44) --> Soul Storm==> Acc(44)Acc(45)Rechg(45)Rechg(45)Hold(46)Hold(46)
47) --> Agile==> DefBuf(47)DefBuf(48)DefBuf(48)
49) --> Evasion==> DefBuf(49)DefBuf(50)DefBuf(50)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
01) --> Assassination==> Empty(1)
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Only reason I used PPP is for the hold and can be easly exchanged with Agile + Evasion
I was in this build trying to get the max out of my sloting. Also I was trying to max out my damage with speed being able to layout as much as possible. I have tried this in pve and it worked petty well just have to get through the hard started lvl's.
Another idea would be to get aid self at lvl the lvl's were I have the PPP.

Having no dull pain good luck with that build. Can anyone tell me whats the deal will all the regen stalkers out there?

Godfall is my gobal what time u want to do this at ?

Could someone trade me 5 mill inf on heroes side and I will trade them 5 mill villians side.

You seem to think ppl only do s/l damage so having only resistance is your goal but not talking the other 3 resistance powers is putting you at risk of being smacked about when they break your defence. Having a 27.5% is better than wasting time on weave plus also a waste of slots.

So what build are we talking here then cos in your other build u have posted you have fly not sj and then my next point is what happened when you get smacked from something with secondary effects.

I would think your goin to have a hard time later in lvl's.

I must admit I am not impressed with that build.

You claim that your making a "def base tanker" first I would of said if you were planning this why didnt you go with ice armor ?

Now the next part is anyone that has had an inv tanker knows that they are a complemtary bettween def/res thats what makes them effectiant tanking machine. Choosing only one and trying to sticking with it will more than likely in the long run annoy your due to laying on the ground dead all the time.

Now in your build you only have your 3 res powers all though good giveing you a smashing / lethal of 78% 3+ sloted at lvl 50. If you added Resist Physical Damage you would have a 89.7% against s/r.

Next thing we have forgoten is the other two very good res powers Resist Emlements/ Resist Energies mixed with your Unyeilding gives you a very nice 27.3% in your resistance in turn increases your surivalbly petty well. Now the perk with them 2 permently on never use end which is handy.

Now since your making petty much a soul def toon annd you have your 3 power to pick from on this which are Invincibilty/ Tough Hide/ Weave which give you an impressive 25.7% in your defense but will be crushed a little with unyielding will knock you back down to 20.7%. I know I am being unfair here cos Invincibitly stats work by how hard your npc your smacking (minion, lietenant, boss). Your not goin to have a fun time later if your goin to be relaying on your defense to carry you through the game.

Now you said that your not goin though much endurace now wait till your a more than lvl 22 and you have all your toggles running and you use engery transfer total focus and then say you have no end troubles. (and Focused Accuracy will also murder your poor end)

imho I think if you really wanted somethign with defense based should when with more suited tanker AT like ice or stone armor as seem more suited to your play style. I personaly think inv is defense/Resistance base or just dont bother with thte set if your not goin to use it to its full protenical.

But in saying that I do think aid self is fantastic for inv set well worth it.

p.s This is only my owned view and sry for any spelling and grammer errors.

See depends what type of /sr the stormie is fighting scraper or stalker.
Scraper should be an easy fight I would amit hands down but fighting a stalker is a different story altogether plus we havent even counted in what the primarys here.