Gearford

any softcapped invuln... softcapped what?

resistance + a little defense is more sur... 75% res 25% def, and im really giving you're argument the edge here by capping resist and making defense about as high as its gonna get with IO bonuses, takes roughly 12.5% of incomming damage. that's less survivable, not more, and soft capped def builds are a lot more... possible... than hard capped res builds with 25% def.

ok, ill ignore SD. first mention of FA is on page 2, someone saying they got spanked in a minute. i guess you can count the DM/inv as a page 1, even if the main things going for inv are invincibility and tough hide. True point that /elec was revised, will have to see like tomorrow or some time im more awake (8:30), im sure they will be there tho, there's exceptions to every rule. problem is you will find 1 or 2 posts in an 11 page thread and be like "see, see I told you, see, har har italics SEE!", never realizing how isolated the incidents you stand behind are.

so as far as... play more /resist. im waiting for you to roll a stony and claim you still dont see the problem, ill have a good laugh.

there are more enemies who can cast a defense debuff, true, but these enemies usually dont stack as large an amount of them by themselves, they also usually arent of good quality.

there are a couple specific attacks which positional defense has no answer to

there are a few entire damage types that resistance has no answer to.

in the end, resistance sets having one form of resistance debuff resistance (the same capped resists that hamstring the sets on scrappers in the first place) is as good as a defense set being able to dodge 90% of defense debuffs... if you could get 90% resist that is.

hell, its hard enough to reach capped resists no even need to worry about RDR. ED cap a /fire with resists, even add tough from power pool. you get like 50% l/s res and 75% fire, everything else is a rofl of coptering that is so bad I cant even think of anything good to say about it.

invul is the only one that can reach all its caps, and only while unstoppable is running. there is still a psi hole, with psy being all too common, but whatever, its tied with /ela for best, for sure.

/ela ties with invul cause it has end drain going for it. using resistance on a resistance set... nah... now that I think about it, invul is more about invincibility than resists, and fire is more about healing flames/firey embrace (rofl, and rise of the phoenix). there is a (smaller than other set's respective ones) hole is psy, and a MONDO GAPING ABYSS over toxic, along with a mid sized hole in neg, and only ~40 resist to fire/cold. you can, cover the toxic hole a bit and cap all but these 2 with the t9

oh, and that is all of the resist sets, the same ones that were there since I started in late 05. over 4 years and no attempt to make a new one. there have been new grape flavored sets, they made a hybrid soda that mixes grape and apple, naming it willpower, but orange?
in case you didnt know why, its because these sets are unpopular, I know I looked at them when I first started and wondered why fire had a heal and the other sets didnt. (i didnt think it was because fire was OP, in case you were wondering yourself)

To be honest, i question the existance of a resistance set for this debate to take place, there is no pure resistance set, resistance isnt strong enough to stand on its own without IOs (since with IOs, you can get defense)

I have yet to meet anyone of the "resistance > defense" mindset to answer my first question.

In my first post, I mentioned that for normal gameplay resistance is as good, it just lacks the potential of defense sets. if you think otherwise, you are more than welcome to prove me wrong, and if you think I am on this boat you speak of, you are sorely mistaken.

for the sake of brevity, /rant

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this, for the most part.

I prefer resist sets over the mixed sets (cept WP, qr stam is just too good) but they dont really hold much (mitigation wise) against the defense supersets, SD and SR.
By superset, I mean that not only do you get to soft cap (this leaves me scratching my head when I hear we have capped resists because they dont want us to be able to have as much mitigation as a tank), but you get an answer to the only thing out there that can make you vulnerable again.

When does /ela or/fire get to solo pylons, or in some other way be so rediculous that you actually have to set up your own events to have a challenge?

even if they removed resist caps, the lack of availiability would make them inferior for mitigation and there still wouldnt be a resist superset, there is no resist debuff resistance stat afaik. So far damage dealing is all resist sets have going on (infinate end or +damage, both with damage auras)

/rant

they come pretty even in the "normal" game though, just that there isnt as much potential. cept SR, they get soft capped defense and DDR with SOs

8/8 slots full, not the time.

yeah but if you do that im just gonna come in after ya, with every mob in tow =)

who are you i have never even heard of that channel lololol im so cool.

does it have a chance to proc on every enemy it jumps to? cause if it does, you just made me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4

true story.