Gangrel_EU

My problem is that the last 5 transactions is only handy for "low traffic" items. As soon as you get 5 or more in the same day, it gives you *no* idea as to how the market is the items, unless you spend a lot of time looking at the market. Because for all you know, those last 5 sales happened 2 minutes before you looked, and it was 1 person doing a bulk buy.

Seeing 1 item up there for 1/2 the price of the others?

All that tells me is that the seller put theirs up for *considerably* less than the rest of the sellers.

What is the going rate for the items though?

Now if 2 or 3 of the last 5 are at less than 1/2 the price of the others, it does infer that the value of the item higher than it should be.

A "running average" would be handy though.. even if it is only updated daily, it would still give a "new entrant" to WW some idea as to the items worth.

Personally... i prefer either the "big space faring MMO" method, where you can see all the prices in front of you, and whatever price you pay, the money goes to the *lowest* applicable seller there, or the more traditional "AH" style of where you can decide how long stuff is listed for, and the ability to either bid on it, or to buy it outright.

You are tired of it?

Care to tell me the last time this happened to you in game?

I was more thinking of a "gimmick" for something, ie huge *static* pool of "cosmic goo" that gives an "incarnate debuff" till its effects are CM'd or somesuch other.

So it wouldnt be permanent, it would even be avoidable (dont go in the goo, you wont like it)... and as long as the AV fight was not too vicious with knockbacks, I don't actually see what the problem would be.

*shrugs*

But hey, with people complaining about -res -def debuffs being used against them and there being a way to solve that (kill the telepaths), then i guess players *dont* like the mobs playing "fair", as in "doing what players can do".

The most *evil and vicious* fight i can imagine would be a 12/18 villain AV fight, where the AV's are actual clones of players with the HP/enhancement slotting/accolades of the player they are cloning.

It would be fun as hell for me to see in the background, as it would mean that you would have to be *very very* careful on who you take.

And pray that you dont have a feck load of debuffers on your side, just in case the mobs decide to nuke your support.

Well, not necessarily to that level, but possibly keeping the level shift *whilst* getting reduced to 3/4 - 1/2 "Incarnate" power effectiveness

Oooh like good old Anti-Magic from Dungeon and Dragons Master...

*bzzzt*

Whats that, you are a level 20 wizard who is *only* capable of casting a single cantrip a day (cantrips being classed as level 0 spells...)

I think that due to my *very* old RP habits, being limited when playing an Immortal/God/Demi-God with "normals" is, well, normal for me.

Bit of background: In the good old years (early to mid 80's), there was Dungeons and Dragons. Not "Advanced" Dungeons and Dragons, just "Dungeons and Dragons", and it had several sets for it

Basic (levels 1-3... it really was basic)
Expert (levels 4 to 14)
Companion (Levels 15 to 25)
Master (Levels 26 to 36...)
Immortals (no levels as such, although they were 36+)

Immortals, if they *played* with the "normals" were limited... they had to inhabit a mortal body, and also suffered the *mortal* limitations of said body. They could (if they chose to) exhibit their Immortal abilities, but this came at a price (hell, just being *known* to be Immortal made you a target). They could use their immortal powers to *imitate* normal powers, if they didnt know how to do it themselves, but to do something out of the ordinary... well, the claxons started running as it were.

How did we become Immortal?

Well, for my GM's at least, we had to replay the previous 30+ levels, but with more of a restriction on us (or even a Geas on us)... to *prove* that we were worthy of Immortal status...

*bring back to real world*

But of course, without knowing as to why our level shifts *right now* only work in the iTrials (background please on this, is it to keep the players "hidden" from a bigger badder gribbly until we are of a sufficient power level where we *are* able to fight with our full potential in our *own* dimension and not get chomped up into little bits in the 1st 2 seconds of seeing it?)

Hell, that is *exactly* my reasoning as to why in the "main" dimension, we are not fully able to shift up to "full power"... because we are being suppresed by the well right now, to keep *our* dimension safe whilst the superheroes prepare for "the coming storm"...

Oh god, did i just type up a whole lot of rubbish and it made semi sense to me?

Sorry, but going by the expansion that you put into the 2nd part these are powersets that are not classified as "super" enough:

Archery,
Assault Rifle,
Battle Axe,
Beam Rifle,
Broadsword,
Devices,
Dual Blades,
Dual Pistols,
Katana,
Martial Arts (dubious on this one, but if you go purely natural on it... not super enough),
Ninja Blade,
Street Justice (i mean, its just hitting people... where it hurts),
Traps,
Trick Arrow,
War Mace,

Titan Weapons isnt on the list, because i feel that if you are strong enough to lift the weapon, then hitting someone unarmed would still hurt a great deal...

I take the "wet behind the ears" saying as a means of showing someone who is just getting into their shoes.

Sure you might know some of it... but you sure as hell dont know the same amount as someone who has been doing it for 20 years longer than you!

Sure, you might have the same qualifications as a co worker, but you (just stepping into a job) would be "wet behind the ears", especially if you HAVENT done said job before.

((how you define the job is another matter . I am not "wet behind the ears" when it comes to *retail* sales, but i am "wet behind the ears" for telesales. Both are sales jobs, just different specialisations))

Depends on how much exposure you have had to the relevant comics i would say.

I have only read 2 or 3 TMNT comics from their initial run... but i have read *loads* of comics that had Gambit in.

So whilst you go for Gambit (who to be honest, is probably the most well known one)...

I give you



Stick.

Yeah, he was blind, had sonar sense... basically another version of Daredevil, just without the cash or the natty suit

Hell, i dont even need to be incarnated to get told that i cannot use certain powers.

Hot feet for a stealthy mission? No go.
Cant keep my pets out either.

Hell, if i just want to run through and do a quick "click the glowy" mission, i know that i have to turn off my AoE powers... and these (well along with my pets) are my "bread and butter powers".

*shrugs*

But i just accept that, because i know that i will have to change how i play a character according to the situation, because there is *no singular best way* to play a character that will work in all situations.

But wouldnt you say that say that "fun" is subjective?

I have to admit that although the normal TF's in general are fun, they end up being "huge sack of HP at end"... something which i *do not* find fun.

I actually want to have to move my characters, i want to have to *react* to a situation, instead of just being able to play completely drunk, unable to see the keyboard and *Still not die* [1]

This is why i do actually like the iTrials... Hell if it takes gimmicks to get people to move around the place (and yes i do include Apex/Tin Mage as the better TF's for this), then i am all for them.

[1] Yes, i have actually done this... i did have a huge drink problem a few years ago, and was still able to play the game without dying due to how basic the combat was...

But in the above "super team gets beaten to pulp" doesnt the team generally reform, come up with *another* plan, and then beat said enemy into pulp?

Seems like people dont want a 2nd attempt at anything

and yes, i do honestly believe that in a storyline *this* big, there should be a setback for the players storyline wise...

I think what would arise is that the current iTrials require more than 8 people to start it. So there wouldn't necessarily be much that you could do apart from make the requirements for all itrials smaller.

No, what he is saying is that he paying for month 2, and then recieveing month 1 rewards

Then you have to take the gamble and hope that it doesnt happen so you are forced to buy more points...

Wait...

*ANOTHER* Case of gambling?

Huge Congratulations... now do it a 2nd time !

Now this brings up a problem that can be hard to solve... how do you set something up so that it is a challenge, and *yet* still doesnt matter if one sub-group or the other doesnt achieve their own goals?

One way to do it, is to make each stage give their own rewards, and you dont fail the trial if you dont pass them, whilst also making the "end reward" scale according to how many stages you complete successfully.

So whilst you wont necessarily fail the *end goal* you can still fail the build up to it, and pull it out of the hat to complete the trial.... course, your reward wouldnt be as good as the league who got everything successfully

I wasnt *too* sure exactly how it worked exactly, but i did know that there were exceptions to the general rule though. Thanks for clarifying

Should point out that the $15 is including *all applicable* taxes (i believe that New Jersey is an exception to this as it has an additional charge on top)

So surely that would mean that the points should cost £9.72... and not £10.20....

Doenst hold, as you would have had to go to before the game launched in the US for the currency ratio to be the same.

Following the similar pricing structure of other MMO's i *can* get behind.

If they were *following* that method, then £9.70 would have been the "fair" price for 1200 points (hell, even cheaper when you take into consideration that this is going on todays rate, it was better when the game launched)

I shall give you a brief history in the VAT (aka sales tax) in the UK.

It was (up until recent years) 17.5%... but for the period of 1st december 2008 to 31st December 2009 it was dropped to 15% (there was *NO* decrease in sub fee for that period).

It then returned to 17.5% on 1st January 2010.

One year later (4th Janurary 2011) it was increased to 20%. Once again, no increase in sub fee.

If they were basing the price according to VAT rates, then the *subscription* fee should have increased and decreased accordingly (I have noticed the the *other* superhero MMO does this, so the price you see is *not* the price you pay (try £10.80/month instead)... Not to mention as well that the EU rate of €12.99 covers a wide range (between 15% and 25%) of different rates for VAT/Sales Tax, and yet AFAIK the price doesnt change for them either.

You cant even throw the "but it was fairer then for rates".... If it *was* fairer, then the UK players (at least) would have been paying £8.10 for their equivelent subscription fee. The market rate however was £8.99/month.

The *closest* point to the launch of the game as to which the $14.99 was close to the £8.99 coversion, was in november 2003, which was before the launch of the game in the US. Since the launch of the game the rates have changed obviously.

So, once again, why are EU account holders being charged *more* in relation to their Subscription fee to get Paragon Points. Because once you remove the "currency conversion" and VAT increase... the numbers still dont balance up

At *no* point in the few preceeding months to the launch of Freedom has the UK/US currency ratio been similar enough to warrant the price difference (either including or excluding VAT)

So is this purely a case of "well we cannot change the rate of which we charge subscribers in terms of Sub fee, but instead we will over charge them for points?"

Exactly the point i was trying to make... although i might have confused the point though.