Forbin_Project

I've explained several times, you have chosen to ignore it.

This would be a good start.

Wake up and read the Market forums. Everyone but you has known about that since Issue 9 went live.


That's because you've been ignoring the explanations that people have given previously in this thread. I'm not going to repeat again what has already been said.

If you read Chriffer's post he doesn't want to see just the bids, he wants to see the sellers asking prices so people can screw the poorer players that can't afford to list their drops for what they are actually worth.

If your going to list the sellers asking price then you'll have to get rid of the listing fees so poorer sellers can then price their drops competitively with the richer players. If buyers can see the list prices then the poorer players will stop selling their drops on the market because they will know they can't get the full value of the item on the market. Instead they'll sell them outside the market. That means less items will be available on the market and the prices will then get more expensive because the supply dropped.

What game have you been playing where you think players are limited to only holding 2 billion inf? When you place a bid on the market that money is removed from your character. Each slot in the market can hold a bid for 2 billion inf. And everyone knows there are more than one item that is listed in the market that has been removed from play in the game. Players use those items to "bank" inf over 2 billion.

Thus using the trade feature players can easily sell things for more than 2 billion by making multiple trade transactions. Once 2 billion is reached a player only has to bid 2 billion on something like a Wentworths Teleporter Inspiration and his character can hold another 2 billion.

A level 1 character with only 3 market slots can hold 8 billion inf. 2 billion on the character itself and 6 billion in bids on nonexistant items.

WRONG! This is currently going on with the PvP purple IO's.

Players that "have to have it now" are currently buying those purple IO's outside the market from individual players for up to 3 times the market price.

You really have no idea how supply and demand works do you.

The seller knows how rare his drops are. He can see that there are 200 people bidding on his drop and he can see that there are none up for sale. The seller merely tells the buyers outside the market that if they want it now they can meet his price or they can wait in the market queue indefinitely. The "Gotta have it now's" aren't willing to wait patiently 6 or 7 months to get the item. Especially since they know at any time after he places his bid on the market someone else can place a higher bid then he did and knock him down lower on the market queue.

Everyone that isn't using /hide.

Power?

If that is you Power we know now that you can make coherent posts so changing your forum name so you can go back to making gibberish posts is bad form.

The details were already provided, you just choose to dismiss them.

Player A gets a drop worth 200 million say a Ragnarok but he only has enough inf onhand to as for 25 million. If he puts it on the market under this suggestion he's going to lose 175 million. Guess what, he isn't going to put it on the market then. Instead he'll sell it to a private party.


This will have a negative impact on the market because people will be withholding their items and as the supply dries up the prices on the market will soar because it will now be harder for players to find what they want to buy. This is simple supply and demand.


To make matters worse, out of market trading between players will increase dramatically as the people who aren't selling their drops at the market sell their loot in private transactions. You'll see people selling things for 2, 3, 4 times the amount listed at the market because there will always be people that have to have something immediately.


You'll probably even see posts where people are auctioning their drops. This will lead to animosity when the inevitable happens and someone that desperately wants something can't get it because he's on the seller's ignore list.

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This would defeat the purpose of the highest bid going to the lowest sales price. If you can see what the asking prices are your just going to bid the lowest amount listed and screw over that seller.

For example a player gets an extremely valuable drop that normally sells for 50 million but for whatever reason he can only afford to set a price of 2-3 million. under your suggestion instead of getting the true value of the drop, you'd be able to snag it for far less than it's worth.

The Futa Assault set is only available on Freedom and can only be played in PvP zones.

Ever see the movie "The Spirit"?

A serum based on the genetic disorder Riley Day Syndrome was developed and injected into my henchmen and the results are that they have total regeneration and total pain insensitivity. They feel no pain and heal completely from the most severe injuries in only a few minutes.

Yeah I see what you mean. I focused on the difference between 17.5 and 15 mill.

And since I didn't say it before, it does suck.

But he didn't type too many 0's. He wants 15 million back from his bid of 17.5 million. That would mean he intended to bid 2.5 million.

Some very good points there. I have several characters that didn't take certain powers in a set because they didn't fit the concept. There is only one power that everyone is forced to take out of their powersets and that is the first power of the secondary powerset. And even tho you are forced to take it, nothing requires you to put it in your power tray and use it.

Not really. You asked the question

and my argument was to point out that there are many real life examples where people were forced into life or death situations and their sacrifices were just as heroic as if they volunteered to make them.

Now that is cool. And thank you for giving me permission to use it.

I heard that GW2 will allow GW players to carry their existing characters over if they want to play GW2. That could just be a rumor tho.

You'll have to take that up with The Thorny Devil. I believe he is the creator of the Troll Enhancement. I'm not responsible for other peoples typos.

So referring back to WWII as an example, you would consider the men and women that perpetrated acts of terror upon the occupying German forces and their supporters less heroic?

You see since they were fighting on our side we didn't call them terrorists. Instead we called them saboteurs and resistance fighters, even tho they used the exact same tactics we today label terrorism.

And we all have seen the movie scene where a dying soldier tells his buddies to go on without him because he'll only slow them down then after they leave he pulls the pins on his grenades and waits for the enemy to capture him. When they arrive he drops the grenades and blows the enemy up with himself.

And how about the film "The Flying Tigers" when the character Woody flew a plane loaded with explosives into a supply train.

I see falloutsurvivor has slotted his trolling enhancements.




He's just trying to use the term "terrorist" to bait someone into responding with a kneejerk response.

He's doing this because he can't refute any of the examples given that have easily explain heroic Masterminds so he's trying to pretend that the examples haven't been given.

In the game you are role playing that they don't have a choice. As others have pointed out it's just as easy to role play them as having free will. Just like you role play shooting an NPC with an assault rifle, immolating them in fire, exposing them to radiation, etc is merely rendering them unconcious for arrest. Since it's all pretendy funtime MM Thugs can be Heroic or Villainous.

That's the difference between a hero and a terrorist. Heroes try not to hurt noncombatants. Terrorists try to hurt as many noncombatants as possible.

Exactly. Only sometimes in the military it's like this . . .

Mastermind: Men, we've got to take out that pillbox. You three stay here and lay down some covering fire. You two go over there and try to get them in a crossfire. And you take this satchel charge and blow the pillbox while we try to keep their heads down.