Fleeting Whisper

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  1. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    Can anyone really be happy if they can't be free to even think?
    Can anyone know that they aren't happy if they're not free to think?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BlueBattler View Post
    Superman doesn't take over the world
    Are you sure? Superman is a dick.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VileTerror View Post
    And why isn't anyone objecting to the bar room brawl? I mean, a little sexual innuendo is something to get all up in arms over, but full on life-threatening violence isn't? Priorities, people!
    This is America! Violence and gore is what we eat for breakfast. But show some ankle skin, and we'll grab our pitchforks!
  2. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Roderick View Post
    And if, for some technical reason, it doesn't work, I suggest /target_rank_next [Archvillain|Hero|Elite|Boss|Lieutenant|Minion|Unde rling|Pet]
    Shouldn't that be "Elite Boss" rather than "Elite|Boss"?
  3. Fleeting Whisper

    Arachnos MM Pool

    1. How exactly do you explain a bombing run in an indoor mission (ie: most of the content in the game)?
    2. Have you tried making aCrab Spider?
  4. Also: Taking into account only the current in-game storyline, there is no clear distinction whether Primal Earth or Preatorian Earth attacked first. There's a non-arc mission (Tina MacIntyre, I believe) that has Anti-Matter attacking our dimension with his clockwork, and you may or may not get that mission before going to υ β 9-6. If you get the one-off mission first, then the Praetorians started it. If you get the story arc first, then we started it.
  5. Quote:
    Originally Posted by COV4LIFE View Post
    If you knew I was talking about asian martial arts why did you spend the time just to try to discredit me and insult my intellgence just to make yourself seem more superior because of your american pride to always be right I never said I was right, or this was a fact, and you insulted wat I know and my sifu.
    You did say that "Chinese kung fu" was "the best martial arts known to mankind and the Oldest in history", both of which are false. The only insult I threw at your sifu was that if he told you that your kung fu was the best, then he's an idiot. You never said where you gained that impression from, so I made a conditional statement based on an assumption. If your sifu didn't tell you that, then I have made no allegations towards him. If he did tell you that, then I stand by my claim that he's an idiot.

    I have not spent time trying to make myself seem superior. I have spent time arguing a point about whether or not we need more variegated martial arts styles in the game, and that your suggestion is not worth the investment to create. And shooting down your attempts at counterpoints, which is part of what you do in a debate. If you've perceived any difference in intelligence levels, it's purely your own doing.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by COV4LIFE View Post
    How can you say Bak mei is fictional pai mei is fiction...

    <wikipedia entry>
    I like how you copy information from Wikipedia on Bak Mei, but skip over the important bit:
    The stories of the Five Elders may have no basis in historical fact at all, and may come solely from wuxia novels like Wan Nian Qing and the mythology of anti-Qing organizations such as the Heaven and Earth Society, which were spreading wildly through China in the early 19th century.
    So:
    1. Bak Mei is one of the Five Elders
    2. The Five Elders are fictional characters
    3. Therefore, Bak Mei is fictional

    Edit: And yes, there is a Bak Mei martial arts style. There are also martial arts named for animals or supernatural creatures, but that doesn't mean the martial style was developed by them.
  6. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mad_Cow_Milk View Post
    Magical Medieval Mecha or robot would be something I would love to see.
    Bonestriders and Loathsome Osseous Shells, plox!

  7. I've got no problems with it.
  8. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow View Post
    Again, this is less animations (a field I have no expertise in) and more straight-up mathematics (analytical geometry, in fact, which I actually studied). Getting a transformation model is, if not simple, then at least doable. That's not the question. The question is whether I can find such a model that looks reasonable.
    I agree, but I believe you'll never find a single transform for all the animations that looks reasonable, nor a transform for a category of animations. I believe you'd have to make a transform for each part of each animation to get it to work and look good at the same time.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Red Valkyrja View Post
    Actually, the succubus' thighs look too long to me.
    I didn't say perfect, I said better than the mech.
  9. Quote:
    Originally Posted by COV4LIFE View Post
    you are wrong about martial arts the TERM martial arts was only used for Oriental-combat this term came into use in 1920 to describe oriental combat then it was applied to other fighting styles.

    martial arts

    –noun
    any of the traditional forms of Oriental self-defense or combat that utilize physical skill and coordination without weapons, as karate, aikido, judo, or kung fu, often practiced as sport.
    I'm not sure where you're pulling your definition from, but Merriam-Webster defines it as "any of several arts of combat and self defense... that are widely practiced as sport". The Oxford English Dictionary and the New Oxford American Dictionary both define it as "various sports or skills... which originated as forms of self-defence or attack" ('defense' instead of 'defence' in the American version). And if you want to go to an unofficial source, Wiktionary defines it as "Commonly, any of several fighting styles which contain systematised methods of training for combat, both armed and unarmed; often practised as a sport... Can also include military tactics such as infantry manoeuvres, aerial combat, and so on."

    The word may have originally been coined to refer to various Asian styles, but its etymology derives from Mars, the Roman god of war, and it was quickly applied to European styles of combat as wells as styles originating in the Americas, Africa, and elsewhere.

    Additionally, even Asian martial arts styles include weapons. Eskrima (Phillipines), Gatka (India), Haidong Gumdo (Korea), and Hojojutsu (Japan), among many others. Don't forget the martial styles developed by the common people to defend themselves using readily available weapons: sickles, rakes, staves, etc.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by COV4LIFE View Post
    I do get what you are saying, but your concept of martial arts is Euro
    No, I'm not, really. I'm simply thinking about the actual categorization of the term "martial arts", rather than your limited view of Chinese wushu and anime. I am fully aware of the Asian styles, and I acknowledge that the Martial Arts set in the game has much more of an Asian flair to it, because when the average person hears "martial arts", they don't think large-scale infantry movements. I'm talking about martial arts as a whole. You're talking about a limited personal experience.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by COV4LIFE View Post
    I never said I wanted a realistic martials art powerset
    Your initial post suggests otherwise.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by COV4LIFE View Post
    I did comment on the matrix online martial arts powerset, because the developers used real martial artis (asian style not ancient egyptian style).
    "Real martial arts" does not mean "asian style". It doesn't mean "ancient egyptian style" either. In fact, other than being designed for combat, "real martial arts" doesn't mean anything. That's the whole point I'm trying to make here. The existing Martial Arts powerset is fairly generic, so that you can try and get your MA character as a close approximation of what you want. After a quick internet search, I found the Martial Arts Database, which lists 40 martial arts categories. This is a super hero game, not a martial arts game -- the developers are not going to create 40 powersets just to appease you.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by COV4LIFE View Post
    <essense>

    your idea of essence is warfare in asian understanding it was for defensive purpose thats why the shaolin monks are renowned for there wushu/kung fu/egyptian fu etc...
    Wusu literally translates into 'military skill'. Every martial art is based on some form of combat -- that doesn't mean it's currently used for combat (most are used for sports or for exercise), nor that it's strictly for offense (if your only ability in combat is attack, you will die in a real fight).

    Also, your links are all broken. I'm assuming you were trying to link to en.wikipedia.com/wiki/___, rather than simply to /wiki/___.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by COV4LIFE View Post
    oh I the little comment you made about thequentin taratino That technique was not westen it was in the original 1970 movie chinese cult classic called Hung Hsi Kuan and clan of the white lotus that story about the a real-life taoist monk Bak mei that existed whom taratino called pai mei
    You do realize that Bak Mei is an entirely fictional character, right? Bak Mei is one of the "Five Elders", and the Five Elders are exactly as real as the Vermilion Bird, the Azure Dragon, the White Tiger, and the Black Tortoise.
  10. Fleeting Whisper

    I'm back!

    *waves* I remember you!

    Well, I18/Going Rogue will have stuff for 50s to do before I19 arrives, so there's that
  11. Quote:
    Originally Posted by TonyV View Post
    If I were a little more seedy, I'd check into whether getting the pre-order obligates you to actually buying the game. I suspect not. If that's the case, you could simply pre-order the game, then once you get the pre-order code, cancel your order. They might charge you some kind of deposit, but that's still getting a code for less than you'd pay for the game. If they insist on shipping you the game and charging you for it, once you get it, just return it to a store (UNOPENED!) and tell them, "I'm sorry, I thought this ran on Linux" or something.
    Devious. My understanding is that GameStop won't give you the pre-order code until they give you the box (by shipping or by handing it over at a brick-and-mortar store), so you'd have to buy it to get the code, but the return idea is devious.

    On the other hand, I've been planning to buy the Complete Edition since the difference between the CE and the prepurchase was first announced -- $5 cheaper (net, since the CE gives one month of play) and only sacrificing a couple months of not playing DP and DS (when I had a chance to play them during beta anyway)? Plus a gamble on getting extra stuff inside? No problem for me.
  12. Quote:
    Originally Posted by rian_frostdrake View Post
    ok, norton sent me 4 warnings for those links. just saying.
    Really? They're just jpegs.
  13. That mecha looks more like it was based on a dog's hindquarters than trying to make humanoid digitigrade legs. The succubus is better.

    As for a transformation from normal to digitigrade legs, the only thing I could think of that looks halfway decent would be something along these lines:
    1. Have an animator move the digitigrade legs to something at least close to what they want for each keyframe in an animation. (That's assuming these are keyframed animations, which I'm not sure of. It also needs to be done manually.)
    2. Create a transform between the normal leg's keyframe and the digitigrade keyframe. (This is actually fairly simple: simply map 3 points on the regular leg to 3 points on the digitigrade leg, and press your magical 'calculate' button. I would recommend knee, ankle, toe as the points.)
    3. Repeat steps 1 and 2 for all keyframes in the animation. Manual modifications to the transform or new keyframes may be needed if a digitigrade animation does something bizarre like flip a foot upwards throgh the shin.
    4. Repeat steps 1-3 for every animation.
    As you can see, it's not exactly automatic. The other issue that might come up is that I'm not certain the ankle joint really does anything currently. That may or may not cause problems.

    The end result is that you simply apply a transformation matrix to the bones if you're dealing with digitigrade legs, but I can't think of any means to automatically calculate those transforms.
  14. Hmm... the GameStop preorder page on the GR website says that "every" copy of the GR Complete Edition will have a $5 coupon for the Razer store. I'm curious whether that actually means "every" or just for copies preordered from GameStop...

    Edit: Apparently, the "desktop skin" things are worth $15 themselves...
    Edit2: And if you get the $5 coupon, the cheapest thing in their store is $10. And it's mouse *feet*. Designed for their expensive gaming mice. (And... mouse feet which specifically wear down faster than the rubber or plastic feet of mice in a normal price range.)
  15. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kitsune9tails View Post
    The Rogue Isles is evolved anarchy. People have jobs and there are hospitals, but there is no Bill of Rights. There are no laws, only common sense rules like "Don't cross Arachnos" and "Don't pick fights with people that can beat you up."
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    Originally Posted by Eva Destruction View Post
    The Rogue Isles don't hold elections, Recluse assassinated the previous president and took over, and he's been a dictator ever since.
    There are no elections, but there are laws and political officials. Each island has a governor and a marshal (both appointed by Recluse). The governors deal with domestic stuff and the marshals deal with security.

    Of course, the highest law is "don't f$#k with the Arbiters".
  16. First and foremost: That black Veranda is hard to read.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by COV4LIFE View Post
    This power set had nothing to do about the essence of martial arts other than kicks and terrible wording for a certain technique. As a martial artist myself I was shocked that a game like this would not have the best description of martial arts.
    What is the essence of martial arts? "Martial arts" is the art of warfare. No matter what you put into this game, if you call it 'martial arts', you will be wrong. Archery is martial arts. You can even call nuclear weapons a part of martial arts. And be right.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by COV4LIFE View Post
    Being that this is a superhero game why not have the best martial arts known to mankind and the Oldest in history, Chinese Kung Fu!
    Oldest? Actually, the oldest record of codified hand-to-hand fighting techniques comes from Egypt. Murals in Beni Hasan, dated back to the 20th century BC (the Bronze Age).

    Best? I think you may be a little biased there. And if you've been taught that what you're learning is 'the best', then your teacher is an idiot. There isn't really such thing as the best set of hand-to-hand techniques, merely what is advantageous to you at any given time. And if I had to chose the best style of hand-to-hand combat from all those available, I would probably look to the close quarters combat taught to modern police and soldiers -- fighting techniques which benefit from the failures and successes throughout history. (Also: fighting techniques which are most relevant in the modern era)

    Kung fu is also rather ambiguous. It more generally refers to personal accomplishment than to martial arts. Wushu is a better term to use, but even that doesn't really clarify what combat style you're trying to talk about.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by COV4LIFE View Post
    There is this misconception in this game that martial arts only do smashing. So, you telling me that none of the developers had any insight on what Martial arts can do.

    Such as cause Internal Damage, lost of Breath when a pressure point blockage accrues, pressure points that can stop the chi flow, martial arts can also heal with acupuncture.
    "Smashing" damage equates to blunt force trauma in the real world. Which is exactly what a traditional martial arts attack would inflict, assuming we're talking about a martial arts that doesn't incorporate weapons. Your fist will not slice someone open, freeze them to death, burn them alive, psychically assault them, poison them, summon otherworldly powers, or electrocute them. Your fist will inflict blunt force. Because it is a blunt object.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by COV4LIFE View Post
    with all these facts the martial arts power set should have been a Debuffing set, because of its internal application that it causes; not just a smashing martial arts, also every lethal and a internal martial arts, as well, not just smashing.
    City of Heroes is first and foremost a game, not a kung fu simulator. The game design held characters proficient at debuffing enemies out of the fray (or at least removed the need for them to be there), while melee characters are built to survive and to do damage. That's the main reason martial arts is not a 'debuffing' set -- it's a game.

    The secondary reason is because outside of a sparring match, in combat you want to defeat your opponent, not simply make him temporarily weaker. Debuffs don't do damage (or are not a significant source of damage). Again, this is because of the game's design. At the same time, a close combat attack is meant to deal damage, and therefore will not generally be a control or debuff. Again, game design.

    Finally, Martial Arts already does have crippling effects: Thunder Kick, Cobra Strike, and Eagle's Claw can all make the target disoriented, Crane Kick can knock an opponent around, and Crippling Axe Kick prevents the targets from moving (a literal crippling effect).

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by COV4LIFE View Post
    After realizing the developers only based the martial arts power set after mainstream movie media, such as, Neo fighting agents in the matrix; Tommy and Jason fighting Rita replusa from the power Rangers this is why we have such a weak martial art set.
    Honestly, the devs' version of Martial Arts is more based in reality than yours, which appears to be based on anime and a thin grasp of what various martial disciplines are meant to be used for.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by COV4LIFE View Post
    I thought martial arts would be a extremely powerful set because this is a comic book like game and martial arts is really strong in comics, and to my surprise, again it wasn't.
    In comics, a character's power level (good or evil) is based entirely on what the writer wishes. In a game, a character's power level is based on the fact that all characters should be at least nominally balanced with one another. Remember: This. Is. A. Game.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by COV4LIFE View Post
    Being that the developers may have depicted martial arts from American stand point of view, instead of and Asian point view where it originated from in mainstream Asian comics, such as, Dragon ball (Japan), and Dragon Tiger Gate (China) Martial Artist are visualize as Fighting gods arranging from breaking mountains, and leveling buildings with their punches. So, how in sam-hill we get storm kick, crippling axe.
    Considering this is an American game based generally on American/Western comics, set in America (and off the coast of Florida), with some ties to Western mythology, and with servers located in America and Germany... and the only direct ties to Asia are the producer parent company (NCSoft is from South Korea, though I believe the game is technically published by NCSoft's Mountain View branch in California) and a largely unsuccessful attempt at a South Korean game launch...

    Why the bloody hell do you THINK everything's from an American point of view?

    And beyond that, anime is not what any sane person calling themselves a martial artist would look to for inspiration. PROTIP: Dragon Ball isn't real.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by COV4LIFE View Post
    I also believe this should be a secondary power used for Brutes, scrappers, and stalkers a-like.
    Why should a style of combat (martial arts) be an armor set (Brute/Stalker/Scrapper secondary)?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by COV4LIFE View Post
    The best martial arts I even seen performed in a game was the Matrix Online which is now shutdown.
    Earlier you denigrated the fighting style of Neo, and now you praise the martial arts in Matrix Online. Please understand why I'm laughing silently.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by COV4LIFE View Post
    Drunken Boxing Kung fu: You are in a state of drunkardness...
    You do realize that actual practitioners of Zui Quan have to be completely sober to even attempt their techniques, right? You make a big deal about being a martial artist and wanting something more realistic, but it seems more like you've just watched a variety of anime. You wouldn't happen to be a student of the Musabetsu Kakuto Ryu school of martial arts, would you?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by COV4LIFE View Post
    Five Deadly Palm Strike
    Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique? I thought we were staying away from western film?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by COV4LIFE View Post
    You can only use one kung fu style at a time.
    So, not only is this an eclectic mix of powers with little holding it together... not only is this a debuff set trying to be a defense set when thematically it should be a melee set... not only does it apparently fail at all three of those goals... but you're only allowed to have one power active at a time?

    Dude, that sort of thinking was thrown out the window some time around Issue 3, I believe.

    Edit: Oh yeah, and you only listed 8 powers. A Primary/Secondary set needs 9.
  17. Fleeting Whisper

    Naming Idea

    You mean a name with as many kool letterz as "Skystryke" was still available? I'm XTREME-ly shocked!
  18. Okay, add 'shamanistic dark god' to the list of sources.
  19. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    This is true - Villains are kinda short on doomsday devices - but big on being a minions to a spider obsessed nutcase
    It seems half of the characters above level 30 have a nuclear device or three.

    Collectively, there have only been a few massively destructive events between Paragon City and the Etoile island chain:
    1. The Hollowing. Caused by 'dyne junkies. (Eastgate)
    2. The Faultline Incident. Caused by the arch-villain Faultline. When rebuilding began, seismic activity on the moon caused further damage. (Overbrook)
    3. The Rikti Crash Site. Caused by Statesman himself during the first Rikti war. (White Plains)
    4. The Aeon Bomb. Caused the the rookie hero Sunburst. (Siren's Call)
    5. Crey's Folly. Caused by a Crey building getting bombed by Rikti during the first Rikti war. (Venice)
    6. Boomtown. Caused by the collateral damage of both heroes and Rikti during the first Rikti war. (Baumtown)
    Did I miss any? That's 33% caused directly by heroes, 50% ultimately caused by a war, and only 17% caused by an individual villain.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Wicked_Wendy View Post
    As mentioned by others here the fact that Lord Recluse ceased control of Arachnos and took control of the Rogue Isles doesn't mean his "government" is officially recognized as a nation by ANY other country.
    From the official Arachnos background:
    Ruling a nation has allowed Lord Recluse to create armed forces, purchase military hardware, and even research alien technology.
    "Nation" implies recognition of that status by at least one other country, which is all that's required.
  20. Leather, chains, skulls, and spikes are so cliche. The modern villain needs to be chic!

    Like this guy:

  21. How about the hobo NPCs?

    Edit: Hmm, scratch that. Almost all of the pedestrians look like hobos.
  22. Also, the mountain is between Port Oakes and Cap Au Diable, so it seems bizarre that a mountain in that location would break up the islands as they are.
  23. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    They wear spandex - they're on the right side of the law
    Doesn't the Riddler wear spandex...?