Fire_Wyrm

Thanks Dusk.

I'll let you in on a little secret, Rintera. For the most part, the groups we play in are pretty closed off. Reporting us to our superiors will usually result in a laugh between friends because, hey, we all like each other, who cares what others think? I'd also like to point out that we are not indicative of our friends. Don't rush off to blacklist all of our friends just because of us.

Have fun all, and don't take this so seriously, it's bad for your health.

Seriously people? I don't know whether that was cowardice, or just not wanting to get involved, but either way that's just stupid of you. Yeah, I'm calling you stupid, know why? Because rather than try to salvage the event, you just ran off to find something else to do. I do feel bad for busting up Nalrok's event, but at the same time, if you guys weren't willing to tough it out, then you're equally to blame in my eyes. I might be contradicting myself here in that I started off by saying you should ignore people like us, and now I'm saying confront us, but if people are being that annoying, a polite /tell can work wonders. If not, at least you can say you tried.

This post is a little bit more antagonistic and confrontational than Volt's, but it was intended to shock you into realizing that you could have done more than tell Nalrok his event was ruined as you left. That helps nothing, people.

Well, they're quite clearly in Steel Canyon. And I don't even think there is a Praetorian CoT, is there?

Um, I'm not requesting anything in this thread. People are saying they love the new armor, some of us are saying it doesn't look superhero-y. Shade comes in saying "Oh I guess we'll have to get rid of all this other stuff to make the game feel 'right' to all the haters" and I clarified that I was not calling for the deletion of any options, just the addition of more stuff that is not glowy armor to counteract it. It wasn't a request, it was a clarification.

And don't tell me "They'll probably be adding tights patterns for the new armor." I heard you the first time, no need to repeat yourself.

So right up there you tell me that this thread isn't about requests and what I want, then you go and tell me what you want? Think you said it best: "Thing is, you're in this thread, that's about not that, talking about that. That's a kind of 'Enough about your stuff, let's talk about mine!'"

Yeah, the IDF and Defense sets probably will have an accompanying pattern. I doubt this armor will. It looks a lot like Ascension Radiance set and the Resistance armor, where the second color is the glow, not the pattern. This does not upset me, though I wouldn't say no if it had a tights pattern accompany it.

Again, that was not a request, it was a clarification.

Did you read my post before responding? Because right below that, I said "I never said I wanted things added as 'tights specific'"

This thread was about the Celestial armor, which is the main thing my arguments have revolved around. I am well aware of the IDF and Defense sets.

No, no, no, no. You're overgeneralizing. I'm not against adding more options. I just want stuff that's reminiscent of the "classic superhero" look. If that wasn't clear then that's my fault.

You guys keep making the argument that we already have tons of Spandex stuff, but we have tons of big, bulky armor stuff as well, not all of it glows like the new stuff, but it's there.

Honestly? Yeah I'd rather have that. Sometimes you have that perfect costume in your head, but the options we have can only get us so far. Let's expand that for tights AND this crazy armor. More people would be happy that way.

That's a good point, but none of them wear the crazy glowy armor that we've been getting recently. Okay, Thor does sometimes, but for the most part he's dressed in spandex and a tunic.

Good sir, no where did I say that I wanted to screw over people who dislike the things I like. I merely stated that I wish they'd appease those of us that like the tights look more so than they have been.

Not to bash you're style, but Paragon City/The Rogue Isles/Praetoria are hardly what I'd consider "real-ish." Real as in the world is Earth? Yeah, but that's pretty much as far as it goes. You're creating a character that's integrated into a society that accepts mutants, magic users, and gigantic robots as commonplace. Tights are hardly corny in that setting.

I still fail to see how hard it is to make asymmetrical patterns. Colors can already be asymmetrical, as we see in the 50/50 mask. Doesn't seem like it would be too hard to replicate that for other patterns. Third color would be great, but definitely seems like more work.

Again, I never said I wanted things added as "tights specific." What I said was that I want more options for tights as opposed to the armor that's reminiscent of WoW that i20 and i21 are bringing us.

Yeah but you know what's the same for all those heroes except for Iron Man and the Hulk? They all wear spandex! The variety is to tell them apart and illustrate their powers or background, but the basic spandex look is still there.

Villains vary a lot more so than heroes in comic books. You have just as many spandex-clad villains (so very many examples) as you do criminal kingpins in suits (Lex Luthor, Kingpin), monstrous villains (The Lizard, Gorilla Grodd), and villains in power armor (Dr. Doom, Iron Monger).

So yes you have many variations in superheroes and villains, but one of the staples of comic book heroes and villains (what this game is supposed to be based on) is spandex.

No it didn't. It showed that no matter what he thinks CoH is about, at its core, it is about comic book superheroes. It has strayed from that with all this crazy glowy mythical armor.

And that's the kind of stuff I want to see. More patterns, how about something like large letters that take up the whole chest, more mask options (the option to use the oni guard without the half helmet is something I'd love).

Glowy is fine, but make it look superhero-y.

This was posted to disprove Xan's opinion, but it's a perfect example of the kind of stuff I wouldn't mind seeing in the costume creator:

If you actually read what I posted, you'd see that I noted all three of those as plausible, but not as much as spandex.

City of Heroes is a game about superheroes. As such, it should represent superheroes. When most people think "Superhero", they think Superman, or Batman, or Spider-Man. People don't usually think tailored suits, casual street clothes, anime armour (Okay, anime fans do), alien carapace, their underwear, pirate getups, ninja costumes, robot forms (Doable), animal forms, monster forms (Hulk, so that's fine I guess) and more.

You are playing a game about superheroes. I'm not saying you have to dress up in spandex and a cape, but that's what should take precedent in my opinion.

As to the person who said the system can't handle asymmetry, I don't believe we need the crazy asymmetry they have over in CO (Though something like that would be great), but asymmetrical patterns seem totally doable. We already have the 50/50 mask, why can't we have more like that?

Heh, I don't. I got that off of Charon back when we were doing all those arena matches.

Oh oh! Do I count? Do I count?

Inconceivable!

Hey, that's me!

I guess it's important to note that Step is probably getting a retcon (if I decide to keep him at all).

Heheh, I did something like that in my base, I'll have to post pictures.