Evil_Lurks

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Nerfing SS would be the final nail in the coffin for the pvp community (whats left of it). They most certainly won't do that. I think they realize they fed up with i13 pvp changes..thus why they have gave us a million check boxes for arena, and pvp io sets. Slows most certainly do need a buff, they are laughable right now. To many sets are gimp as the result of them gutting slows. They need to figured out a way to fix it, i just don't know how they would without removing suppression...which they won't do. They do have have dmg/slow sets...and they suck . If they did do a slow pvp io set...you think the TP res io is expensive...the whole set would probaly cost 3 bill. Every pver in this game would try to get that set just because the slow sets are so bad. It would be the only viable one. But them just leaving slows as is, is probaly not going to happen. That "dev" on test already said they did not like how slows were performing in pvp. So i'm pretty a change is coming...who knows what it will entail. But i'm 99% sure nerfing SS is not going to happen. Also..if they did fix slows...it would make Kin's viable again..in arena and in zone.

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PvP io set wouldnt do anythin to how slows work, and kins viable again? lol, the only reason kins were viable in the first place in arena was for unsuppressed movement, no movement suppression takes care of that in arena, in zones what are u gonna do on a kin even with slows back to normal siphon speed people lol, kins were always lolsy at best. on the other subject, slows need a buff, but them buffing slows as a whole would help balance arena more but just make zone pvp more dreaful then it is right now, its barely fun as it is to try to get away from movement suppression add pre -13 slows u got wow pvp

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Well, there are a [censored] ton of pvpers out there that don't want to join a ladder because it's too much work, and trust me they would start. Only reason i was not much on the ladder was because i deployed right when the ladder got big(Shakedown). Maybe if the ladder got it's [censored] together, more people would want to join it. You guys keep saying you only want input from people that are on the test teams. That's what...15 people all together?? I'm not trying to start [censored] either, just saying what most people are thinking. By the time you guys do figured out what check boxes to check..they will already have another one for yall to argue about. DR on, Heal Decay off.

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tru enough

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This [censored] is getting way to political. It's not even fun anymore. When we have to start useing sports analogy, in reference to arena you know we are in trouble.(nice analogy syn ) This game is so far gone it does not even matter, me like probaly many of you have no other game to play, or just don't feel like staring over (max). It's not any of our faults that they Dev's fed this game over so bad we have to resort to having a million rules, power banning, and which check boxes to check. I miss the old days where it was Team Duel------10 mins-------fight. I'm afraid it will never be like that again. The only sliver of hope this game has left is rouge, and i don't even know if that will bring people back. They should just do I12 PVP check box and get it over with.....i know it won't happen..but meh. It's basically what they did anyway. Instead they just gave us a ton of check boxes to make us, make it more complicated. Anyway, end of my rant..btw Liberty Server FTW.

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Divine, i know you have put alot of criticism to what it should be and how it was, but you were never that big with test anyways as it is. So i dont see how you can just say all this like you were there and you still are. Not trying to start anything, but this thread was to vote on what the leaders wanted, not on people just putting there 2 cents on every thing this game has been going through in its cycle.

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So weve been here for a little bit in limbo with pretty much nothing going on. I know people had agreed on waiting a few before voting for which settings they want, but i think its time to move on. After practicing with dr on and heal decay off last week against renegades, its probably the closest thing ive felt to fun in a while in arena matches. With that said the recent bugs and crashes have made it almost a lost cause since it takes 2 hours for just 3 matches.

So i thinks time for all the leaders to vote on what they want.

As for me, Easy Breezy Votes Dr on, Heal decay off

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After testing this those setting will all lead to 1 team IMO and I don't want to play that. I wont even keep it a secret. 5 stalker impales and say gg and run. Hide for the rest of the match. My vote is for the settings listed above with no repeating AT. Some of my own SG don't agree with me on this but that team will win matches and it sucks. All of us are here because we like to play. Please trust me when and really test the impale and times it buy 5. Its you decision. I once got laughed at because I said there is no room in I13 for blasters on the ladder if you want to win (no offence to EB) please listen to me.Impale from hide is 400+ damage to a squishes times 5................................................. ........Claws does more damage with a ranged attack but I went with spines for the procs.

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If your willing to run a bugged team to win, go right ahead, i don't see why anyone would do that just so they win a official with 4 teams on the ladder, this is just for fun and keeping us busy, your making it sound like if there's 10 teams on the ladder, making it no repeating archetypes will not be as fun as a regular blaster teams, im sorry

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Yeah thats what I thought until RPVP brought 5 stalkers and didn't come out of hide once, in the tournament.

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good ole RPVP, there's not much to say about that, im leaving it as it is. if it comes down to people running 5 stalker teams f it, i wont be here when that happens

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So weve been here for a little bit in limbo with pretty much nothing going on. I know people had agreed on waiting a few before voting for which settings they want, but i think its time to move on. After practicing with dr on and heal decay off last week against renegades, its probably the closest thing ive felt to fun in a while in arena matches. With that said the recent bugs and crashes have made it almost a lost cause since it takes 2 hours for just 3 matches.

So i thinks time for all the leaders to vote on what they want.

As for me, Easy Breezy Votes Dr on, Heal decay off

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After testing this those setting will all lead to 1 team IMO and I don't want to play that. I wont even keep it a secret. 5 stalker impales and say gg and run. Hide for the rest of the match. My vote is for the settings listed above with no repeating AT. Some of my own SG don't agree with me on this but that team will win matches and it sucks. All of us are here because we like to play. Please trust me when and really test the impale and times it buy 5. Its you decision. I once got laughed at because I said there is no room in I13 for blasters on the ladder if you want to win (no offence to EB) please listen to me.Impale from hide is 400+ damage to a squishes times 5................................................. ........Claws does more damage with a ranged attack but I went with spines for the procs.

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If your willing to run a bugged team to win, go right ahead, i don't see why anyone would do that just so they win a official with 4 teams on the ladder, this is just for fun and keeping us busy, your making it sound like if there's 10 teams on the ladder, making it no repeating archetypes will not be as fun as a regular blaster teams, im sorry

So weve been here for a little bit in limbo with pretty much nothing going on. I know people had agreed on waiting a few before voting for which settings they want, but i think its time to move on. After practicing with dr on and heal decay off last week against renegades, its probably the closest thing ive felt to fun in a while in arena matches. With that said the recent bugs and crashes have made it almost a lost cause since it takes 2 hours for just 3 matches.

So i thinks time for all the leaders to vote on what they want.

As for me, Easy Breezy Votes Dr on, Heal decay off

Storm - LS storm -end, kb, Tornadoe - kb, Freezing rain -kb, Hurricane -kb

MM pets = lol

Done

laterz

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HBD Spec.

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GLHF.

Going to write this one up for the Scoop, guess I'll be sending a PM to Johnny or Beta and ?? for Eezy Breezy about their teams etc.

Hope it's a fun one to watch.

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Me

happy b-day bro

Thursday, june 4 9:30 est

No Dr
No Ts

GLHF

lol gimme a break

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*Updated ladder rankings*

Rpvp, AA, and I assume Easy Breezy withdrawals from the ladder.

Renegades
lolVirtue
PE
dUmb

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who are u? we didnt withdrawl

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They're good in 1v1's. Once you've hit someone with a -tohit debuff, it's hard for them to mez you, since they can't hit you. This started happening only in I14. In I13, debuffs were a complete joke and basically did nothing. That's where the whole "offensive toggles suck" thing started. Now it's still a problem, but not nearly as much, because the debuffs actually do something.

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good in 1v1s? lol last time i checked lighting storm wasnt jolting every 4 sec, even thou the hurr debuff last 10 sec u still gotta retoggle that bish every 10 sec. but even with that its still decent until you realize that since slows got nerfed you cant keep anything under Ls anymore. If your comparing storm to i13 then sure its a big difference, but to say its good to what it use to be its not even close. Its truthfully not even worth making since anything with good endrain or burst dam will wreck you in any 1v1, its just shadow of its former self, just like a bunch of other toons that got ripped into peoples AT graveyards since i13

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I just dont see people looking at the res as replacing the 3 players we are no longer using. People are used to playing either 2 sonic teams(Blue) or 2 therm 1 sonic teams (red) both types of play put the team at res cap and had to use other ways around it. Blue ended up with a lot of 0-0 ties or 1-0 wins the red side ladder had higher scoring games because of unresisted A/S and Scourge. People moaned about res caped teams on blue side but had unresisted debuffs to counter it but still ended up with super low scoring matches. Where red side it was the norm. Just because you "cant" play your blasters does not make for a broken ladder and no way another team will work other than 2 stalker 1 therm 1 emp 1 FFer. For one with PvP IOs the FFer becomes a little less valuable, because forcebolt cant KB. Pre PvP IOs you could slot enough KB protection to protect vs anything else.

If anyone can think of a team that can shut down a stalker and get kills with out them I believe that it would be this crew. The innovative people that have tweeked and played some of the most effective teams in ladder PvP.

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The last time i checked you guys were running a stalker team in the tourney? am i wrong?

We have been trying diff run and gun, therms, pretty much anything that seems viable against a stalker team. Yet, every practice with renegadez ends the same. Emps have cap res, we cant do enough damage, therms are countered by another emp, more blasters triggers them to bring a tank to taunt. With no ts, keeping up with a stalker after a as is pretty stupidly broken.

If we ban the res shields that at least takes one other toon to either give cap res or try something diff. Fighting with dr on is so retarded im not even going to give a reason. As it sits right now, you have to bring a stalker team if you wanna compete, until they decide to bring a auto resist removal button or heal decay removal from dr, banning res shields is the way to go i say.

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Dueled a fire/storm. Office map was embarassing... 0-5. Lightning storm was everywhere it seemed.

Fought tech lap, was a little bit closer 0-2 no inspirations (per my request). Got a kill on me in last 20 sec.

Seems i've found my weakness. storm ftw.

Still think i could take a psi

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good fights, its been a while since i take him out, hes still not anything like it use to be but its still a fun lil toon to toss mm pets everywhere

gg

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Plus LS kinda sucks balls now that if fires half the speed. It was a potent sapping tool before, but now you "need" two of them out and attacking and/or powerboost and/or pair it with other sapping abilities.

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ya, i actually tested that, with a fully ioed build LS could jolt every 3-4 sec, now with them seperating pet recharge, its back to the HO days of 7 sec

Hurricane is def back to normal in this issue except a few things, hurricane can still be droped every 10 sec. Slows are still useless for storm since you wont be able to keep anyone under lighting storm long enough to do anything. Storm is still end heavy like a mother.

So its definetly alot better now then in i13 but still a long shot from bieng as good as in pre i13 days

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Anichi doin the RL thing? What do robots do IRL?

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Spec is wise. Screw easy breezy, i wanna join re re. smoke does too much groping

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You can use your justice experience to help spec

Storms in general were def one of the sets that got hit the hardest.
Mainly due to the fact that hurricane was pretty much the main reason to take it, since hurr is pretty useless for -tohitt and repel. It makes the set less appealing. with the additon to automatic mezes, retoggeling it is pretty annoying. With that said, i duel quite frequently with it in the arena. and it holds up fairly good against everything except something with pure endrain. where before you had slows and -tohitt to negate pretty much everything you fought, the playstyle has changed to doing decent damage and hoping you can keep something long enough around LS to end drain it. LS is still pretty beastly. but with slows nerfed, its alot harder to keep someone there for more then a few secs.

Is it completely gimp? i wouldn't say that

Gimp compared to before? yes

Still viable? yes in certain situations

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We are the only ones who will beat Renegades.

We have Iron Guard. No one else has Iron Guard. Iron Guard will get 50 kills a match.

Don't [censored] with Iron Guard.

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you like doritos?

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Oh, hell.. I know I'm gimped completely with Infamous. But, it should be a damn skippy time.

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you dont even know how skippy

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np bro. I understand you think with Infamous you can beat us. GL witht that

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smart guy, lol