Electric-Knight

HAHAHA...

You heard it here first!
Water Powers confirmed for CoH2!!

It might be City of Hydrogen gas.

Hehe, for me, the farther away it is (Or might be), the more excited I am for it

Heehee, nor spell!

Just continuing down this purely speculative path for fun...

Oh, I don't think going all the way would be making it an end-game expansion... I think making it a brand new, very different (In some ways) game is the key.
Ports or no ports... The idea of designing a game where the starting point is a character who has the relative power of an end-game advanced character of previous games isn't lessened by being a stand alone product.

Follow me, if you will... One of the common positive remarks from new players of CoH is how much they enjoy actually having fun and varied powers from very early on.
Now, most of us may not feel this way any more... as we might feel like low levels lack the diversity of powers that we enjoy... and we might think of level 20 or level 32 or level 44 where we really feel like we've finally gotten the powers that makes us enjoy this game so much...

Still, I suppose, compared to other games... this game gives you some fun toys and some powers that make you feel good right out of the box.

Early travel powers seems to be a common praise for CoH.

Anyway... So, take that to a ridiculous extreme that I've not seen before... Where you start out strong, strong enough to shrug aside bank robbers and wade into a room and thwart a gang of very advanced criminals.

However, make the character advancement go from there... Take the enemies to greater extremes. And the characters now have to progress from Portal Corps level heroes to tackling planetary goliaths, spectacular supernova sensations, armies of hyper-advanced aliens...

I'm not saying they should do this or that I expect any such thing.
This is just a way in which a sequel could be done where it doesn't give players of the first game any advancement beyond what anyone else would get... but it also does not cut off the progression from one game to the next and previous characters to the new game.

I hate to say it, but make the sequel more along the lines (Please note that I said "more along the lines" and not 'completely adhere to the precept of') your character being a Superman level being. That doesn;t have to mean they're invulnerable and all that super jazz. It just means the concepts would be geared towards that high of a level adventure (Buckaroo Banzai might be able to defeat any enemy that Superman could have... but he is no Superman, and player's characters would not need to be the man of steel in order to fit in).
Anyways... I think I put more disclaimers in there than actual content, hehe.

One other thing. What you said about zoning from one to the other...

My thinking is that a sequel will be way, far and away, more of an advanced and completely different engine and experience than the predecessor.

If a sequel was going to be Mega-Ultramode Graphics with a few code improvements... I'd rather see them just overhaul the existing game... even if it is a new engine, and slap a virtually new game under the same name.

If they were to do a true sequel... I'd hope for such a drastic change in the engine and all...
Zoning from one to the other would be akin to zoning from Pong to Wii Tennis (I can't be bothered to come up with a different example, hehe. I know that you know what I mean)



Personally, I hope for all the spirit that this game has, combined with the best that modern engines can accomplish and then some through their great innovation.

Take our wonderful rag doll physics into the stratosphere and bring along breakaway walls tons of ridiculously entertaining interactive comicbook mayhem.

And... I will not be looking forward to this game for some time to come.

However, I enjoy dreaming. I always enjoy dreaming, hehe.

Not that I disagree with what you are saying, nor with the probabilities and all that (Which, I do say in my ramble farther up)...
But, things can be different. Clever people come up with new and interesting ways that don't follow what has happened before.

That being said... I certainly don't expect that sort of leap in this regard. I just don't like ruling out the absurd ^ ^

Still... an interesting (And complicated) approach would be what I touched on earlier...
Making a new game where the character starts on a level seemingly as (Or nearly) as powerful as what CoH offers around 50.

No small feat... And lots of irregularities to work out (Difficult learning curve the more options you have at start... huge task of creating a system that starts where most games end), people would say it is crazy... doesn't mean it couldn't work... And I happen to love a major challenge, which such a design could be.

Anyway... In my opinion, the most likely approach would be a major cataclysm in the CoH universe... or some sort of scenario that offers reasoning for a "restart".
The Coming Storm? Jonas Brother invader alien clones?
Perhaps a slight jump in the future... or an alternate timeline...

Maybe they'll bring in Joe Quesada and make it Ultimate City Of Heroes
We can all make our characters as squeaky youngsters...

I hope for a World or Galaxy of Heroes, though
I rambled in another post a while ago about my hopes of a sequel... Hopefully some of that pie isn't too high.

Should be fun in a few years.
Maybe some of you have time to get training and join the team for it. It should be a while

EDIT:

And again... As was said earlier in this thread... (Not that I am saying they WOULD nor SHOULD port characters over)... The games do not need to be similar in order to port pre-existing characters over.

Hehe This is true (Although, the story arcs are, of course, worse off for xp/rewards, which I'm sure is what they meant).

Still, I am very happy and thankful that we simply have the ability to create our own scenarios in this game.
Even if we didn't gain any rewards, it is a sweet thing.
I'd love for the rewards to be equal, but... oh well, it is a very very tricky balance for the Devs. This I do understand.

Hopefully a better solution may come about for Allies within Battles and the like.

If what Venture says here is correct, that does not sound good to me.

Including battles and patrols in this change hurts potential story telling as an alternative way to gain rewards a good deal.

It guts our options more than I'd like to see.

I have to ask, is this working as intended? Battles and Patrols count in this ally change?

I suppose it could be a preemptive move. After multiple buffbot allies were taken away, those mission creators might turn to custom friendly patrols and/or battles? (That seems to clunky to me for a good farming exploit, but I don't know)


Hrm

Damn life-ist bastages!
Another case of the living trying to keep the dead under wraps!

Sure... Villains can get away with it... But the goody-two-shoes don't want to make a ghost a public figure... Boo, I say boooooo!
*Umm... That "boo"-ing is not in the context of the common life-ist terminology of poorly imitating/mocking a ghost (How demeaning)... Just simply intended as the jeering sense of "boo" *nods*.

This is precisely what another friend and I had come to realize when discussing the possibilities of Villains in Paragon City (And PvP options for challenging and accepting duels in open zones).

So, thanks, you said it more concisely than I did.

See, I understand this, but there are a few more things about this that bother me...
We will have player-controlled Villains in Paragon City and Heroes in the Rogue Islands as Rogues and Vigilantes will still be seen more as one or the other, no matter what zone they are in. I mean, we do already have that as it is. When Captain Death-Maker is spamming in Atlas Park about how big and bad he is in the Rogue Isles, we can't do anything about it.
I do understand the difference of seeing Villains attacking Longbow in Atlas Park and not being able to fight, though.

If these missions I suggest had timers and/or ambushes, it could alleviate the potential trouble of seeing villains and not being able to attack them. Everything does have the potential to be another can of worms, though.
However, that also shouldn't preclude good ideas from taking form.

Also, Police Drones and the like would keep things more controlled (And much more dangerous) than we might fear. (Plus other clever safeguards and such to help, if they implemented any such ideas)

Speaking of which...

See, I have... And, as someone who never PvPs... I have to admit that I think a Challenge and Accept mechanic of open zone PvP could be a great thing. It would definitely have to include an "Auto Decline" Option (And maybe default as "auto decline" until someone goes in and changes their settings to allow the option).

Is Paragon City the "city of heroes" or a city of villains and chaos?
With all of the villains and bad stuff every single half a block in the city... I think allowing mutually agreed upon duels could be great.

Of course, I know there are some who despise PvP so much that they don't even want to see it.


Anyways... I am no campaigning for any of this... Just sharing some thoughts as I wait for some compiling to finish...

Oh I agree... When I said about the Trues being able to visit new zones, I just meant "new" to them... being the opposite side (Red/Blue).

And, again... not freely traveling back and forth or anything... Just some set content for such a fun thing. *shrugs*

I just don't see a reason to be completely closed off about that, so I am curious if they do (Or if anyone else does).

I was referring to the specifics of the playerbase's lists and such.
Yes, WW is great and hands on with this game. I'm not saying a single negative thing in any regard about her, nor am I suggesting she wouldn't know about how to make bases better... Just was speaking directly about what everyone before me was talking about... The multiple stickied threads of suggestions.

Re-doing lists and suggestion threads is just a matter of cleaning things up over the course of time.
When a thread is started, it might be a concise list... As the time goes by, pages are added with some great additions, some possibly not-so-feasible suggestions and everything beyond and in-between. Changes are implemented to the game as well.

The stacks of papers on the desk rise, and sometimes they need to be resorted, fixed up.

I'm not going to stress and push the idea... I, honestly, have not recently looked over the multiple stickied threads we have here that people were suggesting the team should use instead of asking for suggestions now... So, for all I know, they are perfectly fine, easy and quick presentations for them to digest. If that's the case, just direct them to the threads and... then we wait, hehe

And, since I am not likely to be a big part in any repackaging effort... I will leave my suggestion as it was and see what happens. If I have the time and feel so inclined, we'll see... But... yeah, that possibility in the near future doesn't seem too likely for me.

I just tend to prefer to take whatever action I can in order to accomplish things I care about.
When all is said and done... if things didn't work out the way I had wished, at least I know I did what I could.

And... none of this is negative/personal nor am I attempting to preach upon anyone at all

I think we all have a common desire and love here and that is great

Indeed!!

Just had to snip and quote that... Such a great comment.
Good job! (And from a 17 year old, just for the record. Not that I am surprised, just pointing it out).