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I don't think anyone is disagreeing that it should hit each target it's being used on.

Incidentally I kind of feel bad for the people working on this. "It's leeching exp, fix it!" *patch* "It's not working with pets, fix it!" *patch* "It's too strong, fix it!" *patch* "It's too weak, fix it!" Although maybe that just says that Q&A should be looking at this more.

Who here is talking about PvP? It's unbalanced in PvE. I even have a character with a rain power who has Reactive slotted and I can't wait for the change, because it invalidates all my other powers and most of my other characters if I only need one power.

I'm sorry you believe I can only have fun in this game if things are dramatically overpowered. If you'd really like to have "fun," you can play in AE where there's a button that just instantly kills enemies. You can go play in there while I play in the actually balanced part of the game. Or you can petition the devs to give you the [I Win Button], and see how far you get.

"Someone has fun with this" is not in itself an argument for existence. People can have fun with all sorts of things that could be a determent to the game. That doesn't mean they should exist. I'm sure someone would have fun if you gave them the ability to delete someone else's characters. The fact that someone has fun throwing game balance to the wind by defeating +4/x8 enemies with a Defender using one power that isn't even designed to do damage is not good for the game. I don't think you understand the concept of balance.

Even if it's a technical limitation this is still a better idea. Rains represent a small number of powers. It's better to have a couple powers suffer and be underpowered than have a few powers so unimaginably overpowered that they can wipe +4/x8 spawns by themselves.

It's not cancel on miss. I did a lot of testing. The average damage to even cons is around 50 per target per attack.

The one target thing I expect to be unintended. But the "stupid 10s rule" is how all invention procs work. Because allowing them to work differently makes the powers far too strong. Invention procs would be too good if they didn't do this. The repeated pulsing and hits from rains and toggles makes the damage stack far too fast, especially considering that Reactive is more powerful than regular procs.

The previous iteration was already capable of turning a basic rain power into a nuke that could kill +3 lieutenants in one cast. You could cast Rain of Fire, Freezing Rain, or Sleet and kill an entire spawn of level 54 enemies including lieutenants with one power. I know the point of incarnate is to make us more powerful, but this is akin to just giving us a power that instantly kills whatever we target. There's a limit. This wasn't a minor increase in capability, it was "able to kill a +4/x8 spawn of enemies with one power every 15 seconds."

Reactive already has a huge advantage over procs. First of all it doesn't require any enhancement slots. And it works in ALL of your powers, even stuff you wouldn't normally throw procs in.

Normal procs do 71.8 damage at a 20% rate. Purple procs do 107.1 damage at a 33% rate. That means normal procs add ~14.36 damage per attack, and purples add ~35.343 damage per attack. And again, this is one slot per power.

Reactive does around 13.38 damage per tic, up to 5 tics of 75% chance. Meaning it adds ~50.175 damage per attack. It's better than a purple damage proc slotted in every one of your powers. And at t4 it can even apply a -RES proc on top of that. Since it technically procs five times per power, at a high rate, it's even much more reliable than other procs. IE, it's almost never going to not proc to some degree on any target you hit.

It doesn't need to be any more powerful than that.

Don't try and apply logic to enhancements, or else you'll be caught up explaining why I'm gluing half a dozen grenades to my sword, or why natural SOs are basically the same thing as TOs except other people can't use them.

Adding an option to disable incarnate bonuses would be literally the same thing as exemping down to 50 before the "51-60" of incarnate bonuses.

No, I'm just intelligent enough to realize that raising the level cap introduces a host of issues and there's no reason whatsoever to even do it.

Praytell what would raising the level cap do for the game that can't be achieved through adding more content for level 50s, or the incarnate system? What advantage is there to raising the level cap? I'll make it easy for you, it doesn't even have to be an advantage that warrants all the extra effort it would require, just one that makes it worth doing at all.

PvP is a joke yes but it's a valid point. Dev time is not interchangeable; you can't just copypaste the AE devs to work on something else without stopping to train them first. And if they have the time to make tons of new arcs for 51-60, why can't they just make arcs for us now? And the 41-50 stuff was planned from the start, they just didn't have the time and resources the launch with it (and there are still remnants of this from the past, like Titan enhancements). Tons of systems have been added since then that work with 50 as the cap, that would have to be reworked.

What you're suggesting is that they devote an absurd amount of time and resource to making the game work at level 60 for absolutely no payoff. Upping the level cap now with no rhyme, reason, or planning would be a massive waste of everything. There isn't anything that increasing the level cap would do for us that we can't already achieve, but it comes with the downside of requiring a gigantic amount of extra effort.

If the only reason you want to increase the level cap is because other MMOs do it, then I refer you to the nearest bridge.

Everything in the entire game is already set to peak at level 50. If you raise the cap to 60, suddenly:

* We have to have a new PvP zone just for 51-60.
* We have to have numerous new PvE zones just for 51-60 (one zone isn't going to cut it for all the new characters who suddenly have to gain another 10 levels).
* It would require an entire 10 levels worth of new story arcs and task forces just to keep people busy. If you added 10 levels and gave them less content than we have now at max level, you would actually be giving people at max level less to do which is the exact opposite of a good idea, and the opposite of what adding content is supposed to achieve.
* Suddenly, things like safeguards/mayhems, HOs, purple sets, the purple patch (it currently isn't set up to handle anything past +/- 50), mothership raids, incarnate trials, and badges have to be retailored with level 60 players in mind.
* All existing arch-villains, heroes, and high-end story arcs are no longer for max level players. Do you want to throw everything onto the same pile as random story arc #8675309 that nobody runs?
* All the high-end task forces are no longer high-end task forces. If you had to exemplar to run an ITF, would you?

It sounds like your solution is to just make all those things be for level 60s too. In which case, what is the point of adding more levels if it doesn't change anything? If the only point to adding more levels is to add exp grind and obtaining more powers, the incarnate system already does that. The only thing adding more physical levels would do is throw off the balance of the game and add tons more work than is necessary.

It's not about "laziness" in not wanting to have to add 5 new zones; dozens of story arcs; ten new task forces; update tons of existing arcs, task forces, and trials; fix tons of issues and bugs; rewrite everything; and retailor all existing high-level content and rewards. It's about how stupid it is to go do that when it's completely unnecessary and a waste of developer time to do so, when raising the level cap would achieve literally nothing.

Because if the enemies were -1, they'd have -10% ToHit. But they don't, because they make you hit yourself. It's what's making a level 16 enemy have a 95% chance of hitting my level 50. So they get to ignore the purple patch.

Well I said hit rate, not ToHit. Jumping from 50% hit rate to 75% hit rate is +50% hit rate.

But anyway, it's not +25% ToHit at worst, it's 25% at minimum. Much worse after factoring in set bonuses, Tactics, Beginner's Luck, or purple patch.

Better players meaning... people who don't have S/L powersets?

I don't care how good of a player you are, your katana is doing zero damage to Marauder.

Well if the power was designed to autohit, it could just autohit instead of making the player attack themselves. But I question the logic of a high damage AoE attack being autohit. As-is, results are it has an automatic +50% hit rate along with whatever ToHit the player has. When you're talking about fighting level 15 players, they have no real DEF and a lot of +ToHit (Beginner's Luck) and the power becomes pretty obnoxiously strong. To say nothing of the fact that a level 16 enemy could do 10% of my level 50+1's HP in a single attack that doesn't really miss.

You're right that you could argue that the power's not broken, if it was intentionally designed that way. In the same way you could argue a level 1 Hellion having a citywide AoE pulsing autohit damage toggle that does 12,000+11 damage isn't broken if it was intentionally designed that way. So rather than argue if the power is "broken," I'd more say its design is questionable if not silly.

City of Heroes Only and No Villains or Anyone to Interact With Except to Say Hello How Are You Doing it Sure is a Nice Villain Free Day would be pretty boring.

Rogues can start task forces (and vigilantes can start strike forces).