DimMak

Originally Posted by Werner

Yep.

Originally Posted by Taiyetos

My Tank and Warshade beg to differ. With a solid team she should go down fine.

Oh right and I can probably make it with my Dark/Dark Def Inky Soul. If you need a tank I have one available.

Originally Posted by Santorican

PvP and PvE are two different games. You don't slot for defense in PvP like you would in PvE being one good example

Originally Posted by Dispari

Let me go over some things with you real quick to help out.

First, you're focusing a lot on recharge bonuses when you don't need to. If you're hoping to speed up your attack chain, that's one thing, but you've invested a ton into recharge when it doesn't benefit your defense any.

Second, you picked some strange IOs for certain things. The one that stands out most to me is Touch of Death in two attacks. What you want is Kinetic Combat. KC gives +3.75% S/L DEF for 4 slots, while ToD gives +1.88% S/L DEF for 6. WP is a typed defense set, not positional. Some of your powers would also benefit more from some frankenslotting and set mixing.

I put together a build for a Brute based on what -I- would do with the build. I'm not saying it's a better build or that you should switch to it. In fact I have some quirks that you might not like, like refusing to underslot powers (Tough and HPT). You can use this as a guideline or just look at it for some ideas on what to do. Also, this sort of stuff isn't my expertise, so if someone else who's better at this wants to offer improvements, feel free. Here's what I came up with:

Now keeping in mind that this is a Brute and not a Tank, I still made some significant improvements.

DEF:
35% S/L
31% F/C/N/E

Your version has 25% DEF S/L, and 37-38% F/C/N/E. You get more exotic, but mine has far more S/L. This is mostly thanks to Kinetic Combat. Since almost every attack in the game has some S/L component, upping that defense is a big boost.

RES:
54% S/L
10% E/N
18% F/C

These numbers are pretty comparable to yours. The difference is this is a Brute, not a Tank. Underslotting some of those powers you took brings the values down, and lets you resist a lot less.

Regen/HP:
701% regen (1 RttC target)
2490 HP

I have about 45% less regen, which isn't that significant of an amount. The HP is less by about 600, but again, Brute vs Tank.

My build also has more attacks, which are slotted better. Siphon heals for 14% HP instead of 10%. You also get Darkest Night which debuffs damage by 21% and ToHit by nearly 15%, which would add a significant amount to your survival (not that you'd need it, I imagine). I forgot to change the set on DN because it has a redundant HP boost, but you can fix that.

There's still wiggle room and some places you could improve. For instance, if you swap out Soul Tentacles to an Enfeebled Operation set, you can wind up with 38% S/L DEF. Also, if you don't care as much as I do for the RES slot in HPT or want to undercut some of the weaker attacks, you have room to add a slot to Fast Healing and bring that regen up some more.

Hopefully some of this helps and gives you ideas on how to build a solid WP toon. With that sort of build, your Scrapper should easily be able to stomp most content on +2/x8. You might have issues with some problem gangs like Longbow, but they tend to be a problem for just about all melees. Good luck in whatever you decide to make! And don't forget to drop by the Scrapper, Brute, or Tank forums for more in-depth advice.

Originally Posted by Dispari

Sorry, no. Like I said I didn't look at the build because WP + Tank + Dark is going to be amazing even with SOs. Just saying those are the sorts of bonuses you should build for. So if you did that, you're all set.

Honestly I would suggest doing a Scrapper or Brute. With that build you'll probably be able to handle a ton of stuff. That extra mitigation will probably be a big waste for a Tank, while bonus damage is always helpful. Unless you're just a big fan of Tanks.

Originally Posted by Dispari

Generally speaking I consider 1 and 8 targets. 8 is more reasonable than 10, but it's also worth noting the minimum that you'll be facing for 1 target. My Invuln is set up to soft-cap at 8 targets, but she still has something like 30-35% with one target (I forget off the top of my head). Even with 0-1 targets in range for RttC, your regen isn't that bad. You get Health and Fast Healing, plus you still get RES and DEF. I never have issues herding badguys around a corner. But even if you have that problem, you can Siphon a bit of health back.

Also it's worth noting that you don't have to totally focus on regen with WP. Shoot for some nice defense bonuses, and slot up Tough so you have 70% RES to S/L or so. Grab some S/L defense or whatever cheap bonuses you can get. Also look for +HP, since you can hit the Tank cap, or at least get 3000 with good slotting.

Originally Posted by Lemur Lad

In my experience, even solo with buffed spawns, getting 10 targets for RttC doesn't happen as often as you'd think. Remember that it's not a good idea to consider the maximum possible as your baseline for performance. Also note that even when you're very quick, your regen is pretty pathetic if you're running into groups then away and around a corner to herd them.

Don't get me wrong, I like WP just as much as I like Regen. However talking about regen rates of RttC with max targets really sounds like a cherry picked argument to me.

Originally Posted by all_hell

728% is that difficult to achieve w/ a WP brute.

Originally Posted by Santorican

Go look at the PvP section and see how many builds slot for positional defense. You'll find very very few who do, and the majority of people will make high recharge high regeneration builds and rely on MoG and Phase shift rather then passive defense.

Originally Posted by Santorican

PvP and PvE are two different games. You don't slot for defense in PvP like you would in PvE being one good example

Originally Posted by TrancEnding

Resistance

S/L = 80%
Fire/Cold = 25.82%
Energy/Negative = 28.01%
Psionic = 7.70%
Toxic = 27.40%

Defense

S/L = 13.03%
Range = 10.06%
Melee = 8.50%
AoE = 8.50%
Fire/Cold = 13.03%
Energy/Negative = 16.16%
Psionic = 6%

Misc

MaxHP = 2,265 (After Dull Pain 3,157.78)
MaxEnd = 113.60
Regen = 27.10 (After Dull Pain 44hp/sec)
Recovery = 3.54end/sec

Going for resistance is very expensive and is probably not the most optimal setup for the amount of infamy that you end up spending. I also worked on max hit points and regen kinda worked out on its own. Workin for defense is probably your best bet for the buck and is WAY cheaper.

My bad for the delay on updating information. It had left my mind for the past week.