Demon_Shell

If you counted every T4 I've made on every character I have, I wouldn't even be halfway there.

Okay, technically tuna but that's got to be close enough.





Remember, Devs, it's not about who finishes first. You just need to fish! I mean finish...

As I understand it, these pictures are okay to post so long as the topic doesn't derail into discussion about another game. This is about carp melee, or to a lesser extent fish-based melee weapons. If I have misunderstood or the topic does derail, I understand completely if this topic needs to be removed.

Considering how many times I've been shot by a big green beam of death, or stuck in a circle of psionic death, or caught in a patch of burning blue death because of redraw, I'd rather they just remove the effect entirely. Make all weapon draws work like Fire Sword/Ice Sword/Stone Mallet and just materialize in your hand.

Would it be a shame to remove the animations? Yes. They are immerse. But as the game moves more and more from DPS races to action-oriented combat, this is steadily becoming a greater and greater issue.

But while we're on the subject, when are they going to fix the Titan Weapons Momentum animation-while-out-of-combat rooting bug? I can use Build Up on my Broad Sword character while moving no problem.

I wasn't aware you could use stealth costume powers in PVP. If you can I could certainly understand why that could be the limiting factor these days, unfortunate though it may be.

Illusion Control - Issue 0 - Group Invisibility.

And, again, group/ally stealth abilities being used by other players. I explained this in my first post.

Edit: What you were quoting was about the mechanical effects of layered stealth.

I wanted to make sure I rewatched the video to make sure I understood the response, or rather to confirm that the question didn't seem to be understood.

http://www.twitch.tv/paragonstudios/b/327040233

At around 46:54 a question was addressed regarding costume powers and stealth toggles, but the answer didn't really address the question, as I understand it, properly.

Costume change powers (not emotes, not model shifting like turning into a dog) like Freakshow/Knives of Artemis/Coralax/Malta all deactivate stealth toggle powers when turned on. The question is why this happens when it does nothing to suppress a character altering their transparency, since they can still use Stalker Hide, Group Invisibility, and most notably the stealth IO procs on themselves. All of this to say nothing about being stealthed/made more transparent by any ally stealth powers.

A power costumed character can't use Steamy Mist, but they can be affected by an ally's Steamy Mist/Shadow Fall/Grant Invisibility/etc. Locking out the costumes that you can use in combat (fight back with) against stealth toggles (other than hide) neither stops or even deters characters from gaining the same visual effects. It's always been vary inconsistent (within its own rules) and without purpose to me.

The argument in the video was about visual effects clustering together, but if that's the case, why are no other toggles suppressed? Or anything else at all? Even things like Rock Armor or the new Bio Armor toggles show up and work as you'd expect them.

If the answer is ultimately no, I'm okay with that. I'd like to know why, but I don't need to. What I saw was a misunderstanding directed toward the notion that it was purely a design decision at some point, which doesn't make sense because it doesn't do anything but limit the characters that can use them.

I'll give a personal example.

I have a Coralax character. He has Grant Invisibility and Invisibility (largely for slotting) because I know I can't use Stealth while in combat. When I need to be sneaky, I just turn on Invisibility which detoggles my costume power. It's not a terribly big deal because I don't use Invisibility very often and can't fight with it active anyway. When the fighting starts, I just toggle the costume back on.

I have a Freakshow character. Unfortunately, he's a /Devices Blaster. He can't use Cloaking Device with his costume power. There's no way around it, there's no limited usefulness to it; Devices Blasters use Cloaking Device while in combat. Right now, I could theoretically drop Cloaking Device and grab something like Maneuvers. It would be less defense out of combat and it would cost much more, but it would buff allies as well. It's a relative trade off.

The problem comes from the buff to Cloaking Device in I24. I could theoretically switch one defense buff for another, but I can't switch a defense/regeneration/recovery buff for anything. Once I24 comes out, not taking that ability would make me a weaker character no matter what I do to try replacing it.

If there's a reason for that limitation, which is what I always figured, so be it. There are more important things in the game to worry about. But I heard no indication that that was the issue.

So, if there is no other reason why the the costume change powers (not emotes, not model shifting like turning into a dog) are locked out with non-hide stealth toggles, I'm formally requesting that lockout be removed at some point in the future.

That was funny.

Accidental leak.

"[Blank], huh?"

Delete.

Edit.

[Blank] was mentioned in one of the Wednesday streams, why is is still a secret?

I would guess two reasons why no new set is being released just before a double xp weekend.

1) Players that use the double xp in place of buying/using xp boosters for the new character(s) they make.

2) Unfairness for people wanting that set to be Nature's Affinity instead of Bio Armor or vice versa.

I rarely agree with Paragon's marketing, but I believe they do have the right idea here.

Yes you can, because most RPGs do. You level up and get stronger and you get better gear to get stronger.

You slot an enhancement. That's your gear. You slot additional enhancements to stronger. That's your gear growth. Enhancements don't drop enough anymore in regular play to just slot what you get so you have to buy them. That's maintenance. Going to a trainer to get new moves and buying new enhancements for newly awarded slots is a pause in the action meant to stop players from going directly to max level in one sitting.

Replacing everything you have to maintain the senselessly bungeeing stats they provide isn't anything. It's not maintenance. It's not growth. It's barely even an INF sink.

Regarding IOs, I have to apologize for allowing you to rope me into this argument. The only issue with IOs, superior after level 30 anyway compared to SOs, are level 25 IOs. Where was the issue? People that buy invention licenses and play from 22 to 27 then stop? Because after 27 the IOs you can equip are better than SOs anyway. And anything before 22 to 27 and IOs are better than TOs and DOs.

I'm not arguing with you about numbers that neither of us know with any real certainty. You know several. I know no one that buys them. Only people that, in conversations about it, will tell anyone asking about them to avoid them entirely as a waste of money. I don't have a preference one way or the other.

But if people are buying invention licenses for badges and portable invention tables, then that subset isn't buying them to skip SOs. How large is the group that is buying invention licenses specifically to skip SOs? I'm guessing not many, and certainly not enough to warrant turning people off to the repetitive, unfun pause in the action replacing SOs for the 5th time causes.

Unless you turn off your XP, you're not really getting enough to matter at a time where it will completely break things. Though that is something I hadn't considered, I will admit.

Other than having never heard of anyone buying an invention license so they can make regular IOs, I don't see anything you said that conflicts with anything I've said. As bad of an idea as it is, if they're static like regular IOs, you could use enhancement boosters on SOs anyway.

I'm not for removing TOs and DOs. Has nothing to do with INF, it creates a balance issue. Having attacks that do 66-99% extra damage at level 5 would wreck enemies. I'd like for TOs and DOs to be static too, but that's not my fight here. That change would sort of be implied.

The whole point of reworking drop rates and vender prices would be to make sure whatever it is you're buying remains costly, but not impossible to attain. But I didn't say that in the post you quoted, because I already said it in the last one.