CriticalKat

The P.v.P.E.C. is a collection of players from multiple servers that are dedicated to enhancing the City of Heroes/Villains experience by helping plan, support, and run pvp events. Our shared goal is to complement our existing community projects through events such as zone pvp, kickballs, tournaments and various arena competitions.

Recently the P.v.P.E.C. has been taken over by new leadership. Sadly our last leader had to move on to bigger and better things in real life. Now myself and PerilX along with our very dedicated crew are looking to rebuild and expand the P.v.P.E.C. In order to expand and bring even more quality pvp events across all 11 servers we need more volunteers willing to help plan and run various pvp events.

No event planning experience is necessary. No pvp experience is necessary. All that is needed is a willingness to help and to learn about pvp events and the pvp community in general. We are a very relaxed and fun committee and hope that we can continue to bring quality pvp events to the City of Heroes/Villains Community for a long time to come.

If you are interested in joining our team please send me a p.m. here on the blue boards including what you would be able to do in order to help our committee and the server you would like to represent.

Thank you!

CriticalKat
P.v.P.E.C. Organizational Chair

*NCSoft Approved Cross-posting*

The P.v.P.E.C. is a collection of players from multiple servers that are dedicated to enhancing the City of Heroes/Villains experience by helping plan, support, and run pvp events. Our shared goal is to complement our existing community projects through events such as zone pvp, kickballs, tournaments and various arena competitions.

Recently the P.v.P.E.C. has been taken over by new leadership. Sadly our last leader had to move on to bigger and better things in real life. Now myself and PerilX along with our very dedicated crew are looking to rebuild and expand the P.v.P.E.C. In order to expand and bring even more quality pvp events across all 11 servers we need more volunteers willing to help plan and run various pvp events.

No event planning experience is necessary. No pvp experience is necessary. All that is needed is a willingness to help and to learn about pvp events and the pvp community in general. We are a very relaxed and fun committee and hope that we can continue to bring quality pvp events to the City of Heroes/Villains Community for a long time to come.

If you are interested in joining our team please send me a p.m. here on the blue boards including what you would be able to do in order to help our committee and the server you would like to represent.

Thank you!

CriticalKat
P.v.P.E.C. Organizational Chair

*NCSoft Approved Cross-posting*

The P.v.P.E.C. is a collection of players from multiple servers that are dedicated to enhancing the City of Heroes/Villains experience by helping plan, support, and run pvp events. Our shared goal is to complement our existing community projects through events such as zone pvp, kickballs, tournaments and various arena competitions.

Recently the P.v.P.E.C. has been taken over by new leadership. Sadly our last leader had to move on to bigger and better things in real life. Now myself and PerilX along with our very dedicated crew are looking to rebuild and expand the P.v.P.E.C. In order to expand and bring even more quality pvp events across all 11 servers we need more volunteers willing to help plan and run various pvp events.

No event planning experience is necessary. No pvp experience is necessary. All that is needed is a willingness to help and to learn about pvp events and the pvp community in general. We are a very relaxed and fun committee and hope that we can continue to bring quality pvp events to the City of Heroes/Villains Community for a long time to come.

If you are interested in joining our team please send me a p.m. here on the blue boards including what you would be able to do in order to help our committee and the server you would like to represent.

Thank you!

CriticalKat
P.v.P.E.C. Organizational Chair

*NCSoft Approved Cross-posting*

The P.v.P.E.C. is a collection of players from multiple servers that are dedicated to enhancing the City of Heroes/Villains experience by helping plan, support, and run pvp events. Our shared goal is to complement our existing community projects through events such as zone pvp, kickballs, tournaments and various arena competitions.

Recently the P.v.P.E.C. has been taken over by new leadership. Sadly our last leader had to move on to bigger and better things in real life. Now myself and PerilX along with our very dedicated crew are looking to rebuild and expand the P.v.P.E.C. In order to expand and bring even more quality pvp events across all 11 servers we need more volunteers willing to help plan and run various pvp events.

No event planning experience is necessary. No pvp experience is necessary. All that is needed is a willingness to help and to learn about pvp events and the pvp community in general. We are a very relaxed and fun committee and hope that we can continue to bring quality pvp events to the City of Heroes/Villains Community for a long time to come.

If you are interested in joining our team please send me a p.m. here on the blue boards including what you would be able to do in order to help our committee and the server you would like to represent.

Thank you!

CriticalKat
P.v.P.E.C. Organizational Chair

*NCSoft Approved Cross-posting*

Dear Vex,

G1v3 1t up!

P.S.

N4o!

I was serious. He is the only leader who had enough sense to know hami needed to be immobilized. The rest of us idiots just let hami wander around, roaming the Hive jeopardizing the lives of many heroes.

P.S.

Hi Marut!

Skippy has to be added to that list. No "good leaders" list for hami raids is complete without him.

I apologize if I implied that I personally thought that is how it was. I was expressing what I have heard from others. Basically the desire to have raids regularly regardless of what a few party poopers might do.

I think you guys have done great and I have enjoyed every raid I have attended of yours Amy. I have very recently become invigorated by the game again and have 2 toons I am currently working on. I haven't actually played on a daily basis in about a year now so I am glad my interest has been piqued again. That being said I think I could find some time to help lead some, possibly lead some on my own and more importantly help teach others. I haven't attended a blue side raid in quite some time so not sure if things have been done the same as before or not. If you need any help and see me on just hit me up.

When I said that the show must go on regardless of whether a few were not participating or following what the leaders wanted them to do I was speaking more in regards to future raids.

If leaders got burned out because they were just burned out at running them that is one thing. I for one can understand that more than probably anyone. To stop because a couple of people weren't following the status quo to me didn't make sense. (Realize I am going by heresay, only the leaders know why they really stopped). I did however pick up on various comments in this thread that seemed to support that many know or believe that to be the reason why.

People are going to do stupid ****, not follow directions and sometimes even intentionally do things to hinder the process of events going as smoothly as they could. It happens, is going to happen and is never going to stop happening. Look past that and move on.

Electro Hawk is right, the old raid leaders stopping doesn't prevent others from stepping up and leading. Just like when every other leader in the past stopped raids could continue to happen if people would step up and lead them. Obviously being this thread is here though and the discussion is even happening tells me that people want raids, the people that used to run them didn't really want to stop. So in the future rather than let a few people ruin your good time, or ruin the good time of the entire server, take it with a grain of salt and just realize everyone cannot be controlled in an uncontrollable environment.

Now if raids were not actually stopped due to a few hecklers then my post is totally wrong and I apologize. I however am not the only person who is under the impression that is why they were stopped. (or at least a contributing factor). Dozens of people have mentioned it over the last few months that they felt they were being punished based on the actions of a few. If I had the time or desire to run raids again I probably would have felt bad and did so for the people that want them. That is not the case so I was just offering my advice or thoughts on the situation.

Sadly Psy the problem is quite simple. The people on each team do not like / care for / respect the leaders / people on the other team. So the 2 combining to make one team will probably never happen. 90% of the people on the 3v3 list are casual pvpr's with no interest in anything more hardcore.

No one on either list besides 4shes has any test experience at all and even his experience was short term.

2ldr version -- Keeps your hopes low and you will be less disappointed.

I know. I just felt like actually saying it.

I was not here for the raid ran on Champion. I however have been on one on Freedom and Virtue that were both under 20 people. 1 took about an hour and a half and the other took right at an hour. Agreed that people don't want to spend that long doing regular raids. That being said though the fact that they can be done that quickly for so few people does reiterate the fact that a "few" people not participating or doing their own thing when there are 40-50 people in the zone should not impact the raid that much or be that big of a deal.

Agreed. I don't think there has ever been a problem of 16 people carrying a 50 person raid. I have seen several 50 person raids where 5-10 people are not participating, or doing there own thing or have a few selfish people duel boxing to be greedy. "If" leadership is organized and knows what they are doing that would not impact the raid much. Do the people participating resent those not ? Of course but that is all part of an MMO and playing in an uncontrollable environment.

There are lots of servers that haven't managed to either figure out how to raid efficiently or been doing it regularly to get to the point that Champion is at. When the new raid system came out it took us a few hours from start to finish. The time decreased not because anyone figured out any magical way of doing it faster but more so because the people doing them and the people leading them got the swing of it. Efficiency came from good leaders and repetition of it being done. We are not nor have we ever been in the predicament of other servers so when I say raids technically cannot be grief-ed I am speaking about Champion. I am also speaking in terms of a comparison of new raids to old raids. We used to have people pulling monsters etc. An entire SG not only not helping but actually griefing us. So yeah compared to other servers and old raids there really is nothing a handful of people can do to the current Champion raids.

I don't think structure is anything anyone has or had a problem with. From what I have seen and heard the problem is more about community raids being canceled or put on hold due to a couple of people not following instructions. IMHO the show must go on regardless if there is a few hecklers in the audience or not. With 40+ people actually contributing and doing things right the few that are not shouldn't be allowed to ruin the good times for everyone else. A good leader should be able to work around the few people not following the format. You are a good leader so I am sure we are in agreement on that point.

Not so much. The raids are way simple and don't require the coordination that people try to pretend like they do. I mean 10-15 person raids have been done by multiple groups on multiple servers. Pretty safe to say several people in any given raid could be doing their own thing or on their own teams and not impact anything. To be blunt raids are not even griefable any more. The good old days, people could impact the success or failure of a raid. Now, not so much. A few people not helping or doing their own thing shouldn't impact how smoothly the raid goes. If leaders make that big of a deal of it they need to wake up to reality that its impossible to control that many people in an MMO and really get over themselves for thinking they should be able to.

I beg to differ. We used to run 2 raids on Saturdays and fill up a 200 person zone quite often. The reason redside raids are harder to fill up is simply that a lot less players actually play redside actively.

Thank you for the consideration Amy. :-)

As far as the OP.

1) Are you interested in seeing regularly scheduled blueside Hami raids come back? Why/why not? I am beyond burned out on them but quick and efficient ones with no drama would be nice.

2) Are you interested in leading Hami raids/a raid team? Why/why not? I can lead whatever and am willing to with some notice.

Wrong. Yes there are "not yet found" exploits in games. This however is "working as intended" according to the devs so it is NOT an exploit.


As far as the OP.

Obvious troll not obvious?

fIXT.

This.

Hmmm perhaps they changed the arena since the last time I did a large scaled event. Ok well if that works it would certainly be easier than rolling dice so perhaps we will try it this sat and see how it goes.