CrazyJerseyan

So I was finally able to kick key personnel off the TV and watch this. Very busy show...in a good way too. A lot of overt and under the surface details in this episode as far as character development and etc. I liked it.
Observations...

1) Poor chickens; its already a rough life to begin, but broken chicken legs too? Oy.

2) So Maggie and Glenn hit the store and again commence with shopping without doing an internal/external 360 of the location. Then Maggie gets pissed at Lori because she was almost eaten while on a run for personal items. Im wondering how pissed she would have been if a walker had crept up on them while doing the nasty and someone got bit when fumbling for a weapon.

3) I dont see Dale as being nosey, a busy body or a meddler. Meddlers, gossip mongers etc rarely have good intentions and the connotation is the issue is usually none of their business. My take on his character is hes very much the concerned grandfatherly type that has age (see wisdom) on his side tempered with the need to guide people in the right direction for the greater good of the family. No doubt in my mind that they are all a family unit now for better or worse, until death do them part.

4) Its been awhile sice I read the comic, but I remember thinking that Lori was a real nag at certain points. Good to see her TV character is staying true to form I suppose.

5) I dont think Dale has much to worry about as far as Shane is concerned. It was a good tension building device considering everyone is saying WTF! reference the Sophia storyline (yaaaahhhhn). Im sure Rick has seen the same "character flaw" (I dont think thats an accurate way of putting it) in Shane that Dale has picked up on...Rick has known the guy his whole life. Ive known guys in the military that I would trust at my back in combat, but wouldnt trust around my wife. Just saying a lot of good people out there with some serious flaws and thats the real world.

6) Sophia who?

7) I cant call Herschel an idiot because his heart is in the right place and I have enough empathy to feel for his situation. I have always classified people in two categories, realists versus theorists and Herschel is the latter. Like Ive said before, he is a very religious person and this shows through his decision making process. Most religious people I know are theorists like Herschel and they usually see things in varying degrees of "what if this?" and "what if that?" Generally speaking, you never want a person like that in charge (theorists have their role to fill and its a strong one) because realists like Rick and Shane are the ones to make the hard choices to help keep people going. All I can say is...poor guy.

8) Daryl becomes more cool and T-Dog less interesting (whens he gonna get eaten?)


Again, good episode and I would be as content as everyone else if Sophia was never mentioned again and the show just moved along.

Great idea and...bring back base raids too while the topic is up.

makofan...I think houtex is possibly your evil forums nemesis.

Hot!

(Are there gonna be a lot of ambush mobs for my SS/Fire Brute? Im kidding!)

Looking forward to it E....

Looks jazzy and since the only "Irish" dudes I ever met were from Brooklyn, the accents sound right on the money to me.

***COMIC SPOILER ALERT***

So the below is a quick snapshot of our friend Hershel from the comic's perspective during time spent at the farm. It shows the difference between the TV and comic as far as the people that are present in his group. Also, different areas point out how much of a religious guy he really is, Id say to the point of being fanatical, naive and idiotic all wrapped up in one. I wasnt trying to put a negative spin on his faith or religion, but people like this IRL have always bothered me. Anything good done by mankind is influenced by God while anything bad is not. If you actually believe in the basic principles of most religions...everything is actually under God's direct influence, good and bad alike (the reason for the ZA and the cure as well in this case).


"Things took a turn for the worse however one day. After Rick had discovered that he had been keeping the zombies inside of the barn, he had lambasted Hershel about the danger of doing such a thing. Hershel discovered that Rick had been killing them all, and argued using his belief about the disease and the possibility of a cure out of there somewhere that they didn't know about. All of this commotion distracted them from seeing an approaching zombie as it got closer to the property, and seconds following, lead to the barn being opened and a major attack occuring. Half of his children were bit and Hershel forced himself to use a gun to kill each of them before they reached the re-animation process. The situation grew even more hostile when he caught his daughter Maggie having sex with one of the survivors he met, Glenn. Being overly protective, he threw a fit, infuriated that she was defying both his own rules and the will of God. What she was doing was immoral, especially considering this person she engaged in sex with was a complete stranger. His attitude was rotten from this point on.

This led Hershel into a downward spiral, the worst he had been since his wife's passing. His personality turned grim and his mindset was narrowly focused on getting the survivors out of the area so as not to lose any more of his children, or even his own life. A fight ensued between everyone, as he refused to let them stay with him and his family after Carl was fully healed. This led to him calling them freeloaders, and then Lori, in a furious state, insulting him about kicking them out when they had no other place to go. All of this ultimately led the man to put a gun to Rick's head in order to show the rest of the group how serious he was and how much damage he could do.

They did end up leaving, with him keeping his children by his side. The event that had transpired earlier turned Hershel into even more of an emotional wreck, as he convinced himself that, because he was about to kill an innocent man, he must therefore be evil; not to mention a bad role model for the youngsters. He believed himself to be a corrupt indvidiual, and he was going to kill an innocent man."


And yeah I agree...I wish T Dogs chracter was replaced by the comic version of Tyreese and his folks. T Dogg is like the third wheel of a bike, I dont really see a reason for him to still be around in the show and if anyone took a vote about who should die next, Im sure he would win hands down.

With all of that, I read this online, "A popular speculation is that T-Dog may be an alternate personification as Tyreese from the comic series." In the comic, Tyreese and Carol end up together.

Cmon! Tyreese was the shite, T-Dog...not so much.

Its probably b/c I grew up in an urban environment and tend to be more wary (my mind is always working out the angles and bad scenarios that could happen) than I actually need to be or maybe its also b/c Im not 19 and horny every waking moment nowadays...but Im not giving the business to any hotties someplace out in the open like an abondoned store. I dont even like the idea of a couple of people going off together by themselves when its all said and done. Intact windows, cute farmers etc...I rather be overly cautious and say I finally got killed due to no fault of my own like being overun by a herd of walkers than b/c I took 10mins to have sex in an unsecure location. Call me crazy I suppose.

Taking zombies out of the equation altogether, theres also the human threat at this point. There are a lot of evil people in the world even now, can you imagine how uncivilized people will actually be in a world like TWD? They have all been lucky so far, but all it takes is a few Merle types banding together and coming across you and your girlfriend to turn that into a bad situation. You just possibly put yourself at risk of getting killed outright, ransomed for supplies, r-aped, eaten or even putting the rest of the community in danger etc...the fun factor versus the risk statement doesnt line up properly for me.


- agreed, Maggie and Glen are just right for each other looking at the rest of the cast at this point even though I suppose T-Dog would have worked (kind of boring dude, should be the next to go); Darrell has his own vibe and doesnt need a romance to flesh out his character
- yeah, I guess it looked more "secretive" following Lori out and about for the pregnany test instead of her just going to the bathroom
- agreed and would have to boil/treat any water going into my mouth at that point...water for hygiene can be non-potable to a certain point (not sure what that point is though)
- if the military was on the scene and given the order to fire at will, then they were just shooting without much regard to headshots...takes specialized training to get that proficient, most conventional forces dont train to that level

I second Huntsman, but both play great. You could get a million different replies here based on other's preference when all is said and done.

The real question is, whats your play style?

Im not sure how this patch ended up affecting my wife's AI IRL, but she cooked liver the night of the patch. She knows I hate liver, so I petitioned the devs about it.
Still waiting for a response...