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  1. ConFlict

    Devastation proc

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Galactor View Post
    I don't think range gets DR'ed. Your Acc prolly isn't going to be DR'ed. Your damage probably won't be DR'ed either.


    All this info is wrong. Boost range itslef will get you to were the steep dr curve is hitting range. I still slot at least one cent on my /em toons.
  2. No phase and no acro. Man that would hurt alot. Hell even go do a random 2v2 on freedom and get ready to get your eyes opened.



    What kinda of team configurations were you beating out of curiosity? mostly melee toons or something? I honestly can't imagine a line up like that working in a legit 3v3 match unless it was all melee toons or afkers.
  3. a blaster teamed with pretty much anything would work. I still prefer the good ol' blaster emp combo, but I am old fashioned.
  4. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Another_Fan View Post
    Actually my reply reflects the fact that anyone who can't look up six posts

    Mayhaps you should take the time to realize that all the other post in the thread are telling you that you are wrong. Though I am sure that would slice into the little piece of reality you have created for yourself.



    Minor suggestion could you stop being the zen shadow/sentry4 of the market forums and learn how to multi quote. For the love of all that is precious it awesome reading 4 replies in a row from you.



    P.S.: play nice with barrier, we just house trained him.
  5. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tokyo View Post
    You could even say he'd make a great post-i13 PvPer, eh, eh, eh, COnflict,eh?


    Not enough loot to comepete with the pros, git wrekt sun.
  6. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Another_Fan View Post
    Whatever you say


    Your replies to me do very good at reflecting your side of the arguement. Your entire argument boils down to 'I am right because I think I am right'. Ever word you have spoke that has been shot down you choose to ignore and carry on. You have been shot down by cox pvpers. You have been shot down by fps pvpers. You have been shot down by pvers. The fact that you still bother to try to act like you have a leg to stand on shows you have amazing stamina and a really thick head. With that kind of effort and energy imagine if you applied it to actually doing something besides being wrong.
  7. I won't go into the whole how bad ice blast is for pvp atm thing. At least you can still decimate most melee toons and the slows while prety much no effect on movement can still wreck recharge. Now for the critquing.


    You need accuarcy in infridge bad. I love putting lysos in it. Threre just a set that can give you enough to use it. Maybe add another damage proc in it and an achilles heel debuff proc as well. No mids at work but I am going to guess you don't have enough kb protection from scanning over it. I would break up slotting between efficay and p shiift in heat loss for a double +hp bonus while maxing out acc and recharge. Probably don't need the numi and the miracle on a cold not sure where I would put them but I would move the slots out of health. No sleet makes con a sad panda. Slot your hold as an attack not a mez. Seeing you are ice blast it is easily your best attack.
  8. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Another_Fan View Post
    Real PvPers play FPS games. They don't need to start the game with an Aimbot running and the BFG in their hands.


    Defeine real pvpers for me please. Then explain to me if thats how you reall feel why is this thread even still going, because at this point you are literally the only person on your side of the discussion to keep it going.
  9. ConFlict

    Devastation proc

    Every build I have has a minimum of one cent in the main attack chain. If its a short range power I spam alot it will get 2. You can still get the bonus for 4 slotting a set doing that and get some great actually enhancement buffs. Even pre ios most people(minus test pvpers) completely underestimated how amazing cents are, hell you can still pick them up for 1k most the time.



    I do like to 4 slot thunderstrikes in my attacks that aren't in the main chain to pick up some more global acc and some +recovery for very cheap.
  10. ConFlict

    Devastation proc

    Honestly he can switch to thunderstrikes for about the same price as commons and get some actual set bonuses.
  11. ConFlict

    Good PvP Videos?

    Some random 1v1s with a nice little 2v1 at about 1 minute in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5rF_X-8LiI
  12. Even though Neeto had some stuff wrong he is still pretty much right. Its not the players fault that there is such a difference between pve and pvp. And anyone who fools themselves into thinking there are not arrogant lippy people in pve that could run people off they are just fooling themselves. It not attitudes it mind sets in gerneral. The problem is that most people get to feel god mode in pve and can easily get wrecked by something with some actual intelligence that can be easily defeated. Those people who enjoy the laid back casual pace of pve will never EVER get into pvp regardless the changes that can be made or incentives added.




    As for why I am ornery, I am a fricking guinea pig in a lavender suit. How could I not be ornery?
  13. ConFlict

    Devastation proc

    If its a set with no built in mez like fire then 100% worth it. If you have a set like rad blast with cosmic burst its skippable.
  14. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Another_Fan View Post
    Compared to soloing PvPers on message boards ?

    Yeah the AVs are smarter and don't go shooting themselves in the head as often.


    I must say you aren't very good at this sort of thing. I am not to worried about you 'soloing me'. And seeing you think there is any challenge at all in soloing avs at all that pretty much speaks for itself as to how little you grasp any real sense of challenge.
  15. The damage nerf hurt widows far more than the elusivity one.
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    If it is something that is felt that should be hard, and on a par with AV soloing, or GM soloing it will attract similar levels of participation.
    woah, you think av soloing is hard?




    Edit: Neeto I love you amn but your list is a bit off

    Quote:
    -removed Toggle drops when mezzed.

    Only defensive ones. Some sets are still much tougher to play because of the way offensive toggles work.

    Quote:
    -removal of break free dependence.

    I will let you have this one, but to be honest I miss the old system for this. I hate dying because I got mezzed and I can not do anything about it.

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    -dmg scaling with in ATs (a variety of corr, troller, defender, blaster and dom sets are viable now)
    I kinda loled at this one. A variety of sets were viable pre changes. These changes actually tightened the reins in some of the top tier sets and switched the order of stuff. Not much else though.


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    -lowered the disparity between range and melee with in smaller skirmishes.
    Don't see this one at all. The amount of viable melee builds is still very small and a ranged toon can still out kite/evade a melee.


    Quote:
    -removal of double phasing/hiber

    Not an i13 change. Also still possible and seen often in zone pvp. The i13 change was being able to attack phased targets if you were also phased.


    Quote:
    -buffed hover adds a new dimension to PvP that other games don't have (albiet n00bish to a hardcore CoH pvper)

    the fact you have the () part of this about covers it.


    Quote:
    -taunt's -range

    Honestly maybe the best change in i13 pvp. Still wish the debuff had a tohit check. Autohit debuffs kinda suck.


    Quote:
    -dom dmg scaling and buffs
    Side effect of a pvp change. Not really i13 pvp related at all.


    Quote:
    -squishie resistance armors now have res to all

    I can agree with this one. Though all it really did was make the game more vanilla. It was nice to stack teams with forts for psi res. Or making sure to go psi mastery for psi res on a defender. It made epic/patron choices mean more than which one does more damage or has hiber in it.



    Quote:
    -squishie def armors have elusivity.

    Elusvity was introduced in i13 and has been implemented pretty badly in general. I also believe things like force fields and cold dom should grant a small amount of this to help make buffing more attractive in pvp.


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    -and aside from all the downside of suppression, suppression does allow runners to get killed by a large team as they should

    one word sun, chido.

    Suppression is a god awful idea with worse implementation. If a melee wants to escape in zones it can be pretty impossible to stop them short of wormhole/tp foe. If a stalker is dying its because he took a risk not because of team size or suppression.
  17. You want blinding powder and retsu. Take powder as sson as you can and slot it with 4-6 purples depending on how you are building. You can go staminaless but it will cost you alot more than a build with it.
  18. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Supermax View Post
    empress watermelon


    thats her alright.
  19. Quote:
    Originally Posted by troy26 View Post
    Thanks. I've meant to make a thermal corruptor...what do you suggest to pair with it?


    Rad blast. Cheap proc option and good dps. The stun is pretty nice as well.



    Blue side melee if you want to go easy mode, fire ss tank and fire regin. Otherwise a blaster with /em and cold mastery.
  20. Thermal or pain dom corr. Also stalkers are pretty cheap to put together a workable build.
  21. Then give me free 50s to pve with, kthnx.



    Edit: my snark aside.

    Quote:
    What do you get ? The obvious advantages got nerfed. If you recall they even tried to nerf teaming.
    wrong


    Quote:
    Try and look at things from the point of view of NcSoft and the PvEer.

    I was a pver. Long before I was into pvp i was one of the top badgers in the game. I soloed and teamed many toons to 50. Please do not act like we all came to this game as pvper. In truth everyone started as a pver and we call had to go through the learn curve. As far as seeing it through NCNC's eyes those genius actualy figured out a way to make pvp harder to learn for new pvper so I don't think I will go at it from their angle.

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    . The PvEer is playing his game and thinks he might like to PvP, he goes in the zones and the first thing he notices is the NPCs are killing him

    Obvious answer avoid the npcs.

    Quote:
    and when he talks to anyone about what he needs to do, he is told the ante is a new build.


    Guess what, you get the same answer for tweaked farm builds and av soloing. Why should pvp be given a different way to work over these. If you say you are asking for pve builds to given open access to all enhancements as well as pvp you may have a point, otherwise not so much.


    Quote:
    From NcSoft's view they have something that they have sunk resources into that nobody is using.


    Oddly enough more people used it before they 'sank resources into it'.




    Like I have said before and will say again in hopes you get it. The problem with lack of pvpers in this game has more to do with the pve centric nature of the game. It has 0 or close to it to do with game mechanic or loot disparity. If they want more pvpers the only really way to do it is to turn the entire game's direction and recruitment of players to pvp. I honestly don't ever se that happening.
  22. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Another_Fan View Post
    No what I was suggesting was at the start of the game everyone gets to start with the same material.



    they do.
  23. Quote:
    Originally Posted by CrazyJerseyan View Post
    Cool, Ill make sure I stop b/c you told me to.


    I get what you are trying to do. I told you it wouldn't go well. Also this statement here, highly ironic.
  24. I was just thinking I needed more parents. You showed up just in time.




    Just so we are clear and sarcarsm doesn't always translate into text, this was indeed sarcasm.


    If your idea of being helpful is trying to police people to make the pvp community better you are in for a long rough ride. gl hf




    Edit: while I am here. If you are going to do mostly zones don't underestimate power push. Far fewer people have the kb protection you would think. In fact on freedom in rv I have had days where I spent hours knocking people around with just spirit sharh on my stalker. Seeing the damage on power push is meh I would probably do 4 kin crashes( all the kb pieces) and 1 acc io or two depending on how your slotting is going. As a pain dom I wouldn't worry a whole lot about damage tbh. Make sure to get enforced morale if you are teaming it makes stuns hurt alot less on a squishy. Never ever skip wop. I know the kbing melee toons sounds awesome and all but really there is better power investment on a pain dom. The reason you do soul is for pbed heals to help with heal decay in zones and to help deal with spikes in arena. I have a nrg pd but he is not pvp speced and on a dead server. If i was to tranfer him or recreate him I would probably go blast burst and push for attacks and add aim from the primary. Everything but the rez from the secondary and skip ac if you need another power pick to fit in phase. Just my two cents though.
  25. ConFlict

    PvP and Procs

    The message for it shows in the healing received channel. I have seen all those fire off recently.