Chyll

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  1. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    It hasn't failed, period
    Again - your opinion.

    Others find the whole cobbled-together drawn out mess a completely disengaging failure that has slowly pushed them away from playing.
  2. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tenzhi View Post
    That's how it was simply laid out way back when I was in grade school, but by the time I was in high school it was about the conflict of the protagonist - which wasn't always a human, and wasn't always in conflict with other humans, "the wild" (which is what we had called "Nature"), or God. In other words, the "Man" in the breakdown isn't literally a human with human motivations.
    I think the point remains, that no matter how much we imagine motivations and conflict from a non-human point of view it is only realistically possible for us to view such from our human perspective so it is always 'human vs.' no matter how much we imagine it differently.

    I am not sure I entirely subscribe to such a limited theory, but it has a point worth considering.
  3. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Call Me Awesome View Post
    Ice has several advantages over Invuln; for one it has, by far, the best aggro management tools of any tanker. For another it has a nice end drain/end recovery power in Energy Absorption that as a side effect boosts your defense. It also has a damage aura in Icicles that contributes more than you'd think. Don't forget that Chilling Embrace also has a slow, -recharge and -damage effect.

    Yes, it isn't as tough as Invuln but it isn't bad. If you want to grab attention RIGHT NOW and hold it with vice grips there's nothing better. Durability wise it's about middle of the pack of tanker primaries.

    All this.

    And because variety is fun.
  4. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rabid_M View Post
    Wonder Woman's problem isn't that she's a DC character. It's that she's a female character, and they still don't know how to write them to carry TV/Movies yet.
    That's a bit of a stretch. Plenty of female dominated programming and films out there.
  5. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Zortel View Post
    As good as Firefly was...

    I'd rather have more Castle.
    Castle lost me a bit into this last season. And I can't figure out why.
  6. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Unknown_User View Post
    From what I've heard in the movie Gwen Stacy is the one that invents the webshooters for Peter, who discovers the chemical formula for the webbing from one of his father's notes.
    If that's true.....
  7. Quote:
    Originally Posted by SuperFerret View Post
    Taking them as people illustrates this best.
    Which I appreciate in terms of the elaboration and discussion, but reading them and considering the thought behind them only reinforces my own current opinions...

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SuperFerret View Post
    Batman is frequently written as a constantly brooding loner with little to no capacity for trust, friendship or any positive emotions and is obsessive about "the mission".
    Broken and scarred by loss... it is completely believable and relatable. In the same vein as the more fantastic (as in fantasy) 'The Crow', which gives the story/character a deep well of emotion and connection as it's base to draw upon.
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SuperFerret View Post
    Superman is frequently written as a country boy with traditional morals and values, who has interests and hobbies and friends in both his identities, and does what he does out of a sense of charity.
    Which slathers a saccharine layer of frosting on top of the over powered basis of improbability for who / what he is.

    edit: which ties back to the comment Lothic made (probably better) 3 posts up (which I read after I typed this up).

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SuperFerret View Post
    (The best Superman stories also deal with him trying to live up to the expectations that come with being Superman.)
    True, no argument there, but they still always feel forced and flat to me... sort of an angst-y feel similar to famous media/entertainment people complaining that the papparazzi are following them.
    That may be unfair...
    I don't doubt that it probably is. But it is one of the elements at the core of my dislike of Superman.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SuperFerret View Post
    It's really a result of how each character is seen. Batman IS seen as the more relateable one, just by virtue of being from a species that really exists, so there's little effort put towards actually writing him as such.
    It isn't the species... it is the emotional connection to what drives him.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SuperFerret View Post
    Many newer Batman comics (last decade or two) are written with "make Batman a super-badass" in mind, which is sometimes referred to as the "Batgod".
    I admit that I gave up on reading comics before this period, particularly DC, so I have no reference to what they have done.
    (As an aside: except Batman Beyond's re-introduction got me back into comic stores just in time to have DC rudely yank the rug out from under me and send me out of them again.)

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SuperFerret View Post
    Superman, however, is commonly seen as unrelatable, so a ton of effort is put forth to make him so, and (at least in my opinion) Superman comes out to be the more believable and the more three dimensional person.
    And for this reader it never worked. There was never real dramatic tension or emotional tension. It was always reading about Mr. Perfect... which is more unbelievable to me than unicorns and dragons, for whatever reason.


    I appreciate the discussion.
  8. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lothic View Post
    I know I'll probably be burned at some kind of stake for saying this but I really hope Joss never trys to resurrect Firefly again. Don't get me wrong I really liked the series and it was a terrible shame it didn't get a fair chance to continue. But at this point it's just been too long to pick up the pieces for another go at it. Sometimes lightning really only strikes once and you can't get it back again. *shrugs*
    I agree with you. Any further attempt would be... disheartening unless it very carefully approached it as something completely different but related.
  9. Quote:
    Originally Posted by SuperFerret View Post
    Batman is the least relatable of the DC characters. Completely unrealistic in his "more realistic" world. He's supposedly a normal guy, but one with more money than God, vast knowledge in dozens of fields while being perpetually in his 30's, and skilled or lucky enough not to get killed over the past ten or so years he's been active.

    Superman is very relatable, because once you get past the god-like alien stuff that's pretty much a "hey, just accept it" sort of deal, everything else falls into place in a quite realistic manner. It's Superman's inherent unrealism that makes his stories far more believable because your disbelief is already somewhat suspended. Marketing Batman as realistic while he and his world are decidedly not makes it less believable because you're led to believe that you shouldn't suspend disbelief as much.
    I... my personal interpretations and experiences with both materials is categorically the opposite of this very interesting analysis - to which I cannot subscribe (but have placed into the hopper for later consideration).
  10. Chyll

    Why only six?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn View Post
    What, that upset people?
    I know! Shocking, ain't it?
  11. Chyll

    Why only six?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kheprera View Post
    The devs tried to add three extra slots per character, starting at level 27 iirc. The game broke horrendoysly (details I'm sure someone else with better memory skills than I can go into), so theyshelved it.

    A few Ustreams ago I asked Posi about it. His answer was that to fix it was cost prohibitive from a development standpoint.

    They'd like to give us more slots, but they don't feel like they can expend the resources for it at this time. Shelved indefinitely.
    As far as I remember, respec'ing after the added slots caused level 50s with purples to lose the purples - as in *poof* the enhancers were gone.

    There may have been other nasty effects, but that is the particular one I seem to recall.
  12. Quote:
    Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU View Post
    Is Battleship only just being released in the US?
    Yep, releases this week.
  13. I like the idea.

    But I am concerned.

    Without regular floor level inspection, we will be faced with a "rise of the dustbunnies" of epic proportions.
  14. Writing in CoH is the main vehicle for presenting content. Say what you want, but simple typos provide an opportunity for their customers to develop a perception that the developers are sloppy and unprofessional. As with all business communication - these simple mistakes should receive critical attention.

    And I think that is the only real point worth trying to be made any time these discussions come up... again, and again, and again.
  15. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lothic View Post
    I think part of the problem is that many of the DC characters are effectively modern-day versions of Olympian gods. Characters like Superman and Wonder Woman can come off as "hard to relate to" because they are so powerful that it's difficult for them to do things that equate to what normal people deal with. I think Batman sort of gets a pass on this because despite all his fancy tech and brains he's just a "normal" man.

    There's also this idea that DC characters in general are more "idealized" as heroes. They stand as near-perfect paragons of heroism and virtue. This again makes it more difficult for anyone to write a story that might cause them to change or deviate from their more narrowly-defined and overly serious personas.
    Basically I think the Marvel characters have done better in the recent movies mostly because they are more flexible and even more "flawed" from a human point of view. This has given story writers easier access to them as human beings for good material to write workable movies.
    I stand firmly behind this concept.

    I personally was never able to develop any fandom of DC comics as a kid - it eventually turned into a general disdain of DC that kept me from buying Batman, who I did like. There was nothing to work as a relatable or engaging character. I pesonally blame Superman - the over the top too powerful character left zero drama, and I feel that too much of the atmosphere/feel bled over into the rest of DC's material. I've felt this way easily for... at least 20 years or more.

    I have felt the same distance with the movies.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Zybron1 View Post
    Marvel makes real people into super heroes, DC tries to make super heroes into real people. One is much more effective and makes realistic, relatable characters, while the other feels much more abstract and is definitely not relatable.
    This may be one of the best/simplest summations of this topic I've seen.
  16. Quote:
    Originally Posted by _eeek_ View Post
    The people who designed it have been gone for years. It's unfair to blame people who weren't around at the time for mistakes their long-ago predecessors made, I think.
    It is the responsibility of the organization - irrespective of specific individuals - to encourage and enforce solid professional practices such as documenting, knowledge transfer, etc. so one's business is not left in position such as this later. This applies to programming, manufacturing, engineering, and all professions. Sure, there are gaps and difficulties in this practice, as with all processes, but for a sgnificant feature to fall by the wayside is an issue of the attention and management of the organization as much as the actions of an individual that moved on. It is simple finger pointing and a weak argument to hang a hat on, IMO.

    As a counter, there has been turn over in other key activities and no disruption.
  17. Quote:
    Originally Posted by BrandX View Post
    Saying that, couldn't want just say "had enough comic book hero movies the last two years" or even "Weren't their aliens invading earth in Avengers"?
    No... I can't see the two match up at all...
  18. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha View Post
    Eh, slight difference between the two, and by slight I mean a lot.

    Costumes just require time and manpower.
    Base stuff requires digging around in 8 year old Fossil Code that could break at a moments notice.

    There's a reason Devs don't touch Bases much.
    I'm not sure how "digging around in 8 year old Fossil Code" is any different than "time and manpower"...

    (And if it is fossil code, they've got no one to blame but themselves.)
  19. Quote:
    Originally Posted by MentalMaden View Post
    (My opinion)
    Aegon is the mummer's dragon. Fake. An unknowing pawn in Varys' game. I don't think he's living very much longer to be honest.

    The three heads are likely Dany, Jon and Tyrion. If that prophecy is even true. Which it really doesn't have to be. We've seen several already not come to pass.
    Or there's just Dany (the dragon), with three dragons (the heads)...

    Though her struggles to control/influence three at once does seem to indicate the need to have more helping her. Or she just hasn't learned how yet, since she hasn't been particularly active in trying, beyond treating them like large, fire-breathing, flesh eating dogs.
  20. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Nericus View Post
    Well Heath's performance and death definitely gave the Dark Knight a lift. However as with many trilogies, I expect the upcoming Dark Knight to be good and entertaining but also showing signs of the franchise running out of steam as it were.

    Superman 3 and 4
    Star Trek 5, 9 and 10
    Highlander 2, 3 and 5
    Xmen 3
    Any Friday the 13th movie after number 2
    Malaise certainly affected the examples listed... but I'd counter that bad movies are bad.
  21. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Nericus View Post
    Oh I know you didn't mean to imply that, to be honest I don't think even the upcoming Dark Knight movie is going to surpass Avengers. Take some money from Avengers, yes.
    It may be pretty close, given how well Dark Knight did... but it had Heath's impact lifting it, too... so, yeah, I expect Avengers to remain king for quite a while (unless Spiderman really surprises).

    edit: non-supers, I still doubt Prometheus will top it either.
  22. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lothic View Post
    I have no real desire to see Battleship and don't really think it'll eat into Avengers ticket sales too badly. I suppose we'll see soon enough.
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    Originally Posted by Nericus View Post
    I fully expect Battleship to sink on its own but I'm sure Avengers will help sink it too.
    Yeah, "Battleship" looks like a great big pile of left over footage from Transformers, "now AT SEA!", and "OH, CLASSIC Childhood game!" (which had nothing to do with aliens...)


    ...completely uninteresting.
  23. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lothic View Post
    When the Hulk is handled properly on screen it works pretty well. But as recent movie history shows there seems to be a lot of ways to mess up the Hulk character-wise. Hopefully the few minutes of cool Hulk action in the Avengers won't encourage a rush to churn out hours worth new (but bad) Hulk material.
    Yep, that's what I'd hope for, but I'd have greater expectations on the movie front.

    The idea of a TV series, with the issues of budget and it being disconnected from the continuum with which the average audience would connect makes me leery.

    (edit: related to series budget, while I could see an exec thinking that the Hulk change would be pretty cheap to repeat, the computer effects in new scenes for the Hulk himself, and the special effects of things going SMASH would get pretty high on a week in and week out basis. And we all know that if they try to go character driven and not let the Hulk out fairly regularly there would be... issues... with ratings unless what they did do was done very, very well.)