Chyll

I think, in general, we are speaking more of the trash loot than the auction/marketable items. CoH had it sorta with TO/SO, but those were at least slottable and usable depending on your circumstances and were a holdover from pre-IO days to a large extend.

Fair enough. SOs too, I suppose on an IO'd 50... but there sure is a lot less of it then the stuff I get that is actually labelled 'this item has no use, but you can sell it to a vendor' that constantly comes to me SWTOR

And the image of a Jedi bending down to loot someone is just... peculiar to say the least.

I did have a necromancer that had some... interesting... body looting practices in one campaign. But I was only ever getting spell components.

ah. Good to know...

And then bad that I ever paid attention to the theory discussions. As it kinda weakened my anticipation for the next book.

I'm sorry. I logged in and tried to play... I lasted about 10 minutes. It was too depressing.

I'll try to get back in long enough to take screen shots of my different characters and that is probably it. The pain isn't worth it.

It is nifty.

Don't fret it.

True enough, and perhaps a presumably safe assumption. The statement just seemed definitive/general and was open to a broader interpretation - well, at least I thought so. No big thing, in the grand scheme.

Okay, but don't count on everyone having read all of your other posts with something that specific.

(Though, IMO, I am pretty sure it can work with MMOs, also. Just far harder to accomplish well/effectively.)

I categorically disagree with this, based on my play experience with Commander Shephard of the Mass Effect series. But, everyone's perspective and opinion gets to vary.

Coming from my pen & paper RPG background and the greater freedom it allows, I agree in principle with you. However I think we are a long, long way from computers being able to present us a completely open ended playground in a purpose driven story setting. Perhaps things like Second Life reach for this (given what I've read, since I haven't been in that or similar environments) but I don't think it has the objective/adversarial based story telling normal in a super hero or questing game.

edit to clarify: Not that we shouldn't aspire to such freedom, I just think that insisting on it too stringently could lead to more frustration than having realistically patient expectations.

I disagree with this to a point. "People" want effect storytelling that conveys their involvement and importance and personality in the events presented to them. Voice overs and cutscenes are features, like any other, to serve this purpose. They can be done well or poorly, or at the proper amount or to excess. They can absolutely be used nicely to help convey personality and depth in a character.

SWTOR isn't bad at it - because you don't just make a selection and there is a voice... your character has facial expression and body language. I find myself seeking to drive those actions, not just the voice choice. But, Bioware has always been good at that...

That said, their stand alone games are better at it than SWOTR. The ME series, for instance, often provides more selections than 'the standard three' which pushes the interaction tree more broadly and feels richer. The Dragon Age line offers different voice choices (in character creation), as I recall to provide personality. Now, I do think SWOTR pushed to include voice/cutscene interaction with every contact dialogue when they didn't need to, but in for a penny in for a pound I guess.

Yes, I agree with this too, in many situations. But that is, as with the voice overs, about effective tool use.

1. I can both resize, and move things around in SWTOR.
2. There appear to be outside customization mods that go farther

Either something changed since you played or you missed the in game options (which admittedly I stumbled across by accident in my first 10 levels of playing.)

Now, I cannot appear to change colors, and wish I could change it more, but it sure let's you. So I can't let you say that it isn't possible.

Also, I am not a fan of outside mods, as then you have issues post patch, etc. But it is an option.




Yeah, I think I'm like Sam in regards to, I played CoH because the character customization and game play was awesome fun. It just happened to be a shared play environment. I am enjoying and chose SWTOR post-CoH because it is pretty much a sequel of KotOR which was one of my favorite solo games of all time.


As to crafting, I like it sometimes, and hate it others. I think there is a place for it but it can be intrusive when it shouldn't be.

Yep, I figured that would happen. I had put a new sub payment in just a week or so before. I put a stop on that payment right away.

If you'd like to take my comment completely out of context, fine go ahead.

I'm not saying CoH was perfect. I'm not saying GW2 is bad.

I've complained about flaws in this game, and still loved to play it, for years.

Man, really? I'd like to go on a rant and put this noise in it's place but... I hope you enjoy GW2. I do. And it looks like a wonderful launch for them.

My point (that you jumped beyond into make believe land) was that the game, right now, that is being cancelled out of the blue, was fun and had many of those same things - even if GW2 does them better - that this guy raves about like he's never seen or heard of any game trying before.

7 minutes in... and almost everything he loves CoH had.

That may nail why as much as I liked the game play I didn't sub from my trial. For a game with so much customization in the abilities it was pretty locked down in the framework of the character.

...I'm supposed to make my gaming decisions based on nationalistic (and implied ethnic) reasoning? I think I'll seek advice and input from other sources.

My morning needed the brightening from that bit of humor. Thank you.

But to Arcanaville's earlier point. I'd still get the bulk of the real savings - people - and actually keep the cash that is coming in (as little as it may be) ... coming in.

I work in a major corporation and in my experience this seems like a panic reaction rather than acting with an analyzed plan. Which probably means the cash flow issue is the real culprit and is either pretty significant or someone important said 'ax it' off-the-cuff so the minions axed it post-haste (which sadly is pretty plausible, in my experience).

Yeah, but even then (If I were in charge and trying to get all the cash out of it I could before ruining your fun), I'd give it a 6-month sunset internally, quietly shelf any development, start a layoff process to cut costs, and take your money as you were blissfully unaware for the items currently in flight (Bio Armor et al. that I'd already invested resources into)... and then pull the plug.

Quite possibly true.

But, very odd to cut if off at the knees this quickly, particularly with the items in the pipeline (packs and powers set and costums) that we would have paid for if they'd let us while quietly shutting things down in the back ground and then sunsetting after taking the cash.

It is all just... odd.