Carnifax

Hiya. Welcome to the forums.

You know CoH had no endgame whatsoever, right? But it does have a series of great 40s missions so its a fun journey to 50.

Enjoy anyway

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Are you guys certain about discharge - I've not seen any indication of who has subbed for him in the matches he has been drawn in

If I get confirmation, I'll amend the number of lives and replace him with one of the subs. Same goes for Archelon if he has packed in Paragon.

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From your Defiant Round 3 Results Post:
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Columna, Imaginary (sub for discharge), Troke beat WickedOne, Mr. Nice and Empath.(6-1 AFAIK)

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Fire / Storm will give you decent hard control. Earth would give you even more control but less damage. Either benefits from the Group Immob & Freezing Rain combo. With Earth you get super bonus double knockdown fun with Earthquake and freezing rain. Knockdown doesn't give you containment though

Earth is so ugly though. It's so hard to see anything in a large team to see anything with the holds & immobs, especiially the AOEs

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Even Fulcrum shift didn't make solo much better for me. My controller ( level 21 Mind/TA ) solos better than Booster. Short Circuit is good but I still get an alpha strike which means I'm still at risk. Not so for the controller who is almost as slow at taking out spawns he can have the whole spawn controlled before he starts taking much damage.

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With Mind you can Sleep & confuse them which makes it much easier alright.

My level 32 Fire / Rad is just sick at soloing now, and has always been good at it.

Ditto my Illusion / Storm. Although I never had Deceive on her until about 2 weeks ago. If only I'd realised how excellent it is!

What makes it worse was I was LFT for about 30 mins with Soloth yesterday, hunting slowly in Croatoa so I wouldn't be in mish and sending Broadcasts (saying Kinetics defender lft too) and no teams a-going.

I think I'm gonna have to start being pro-active (god I hate that word. I sound like a marketing campaign for Flora) and sending nice tells to people currently in teams asking if they've room for a Kinetics defender.

Thats probably my biggest issue with the char. I need a team or really I'm not at anything. Once I have a team, even a duo with a scrapper or blaster, theres no stopping us.

Well you have Sup Invis so you can skip Group and leave Steamy Mist off for a while (I love it as a power though)

Normally I'd try and get Freezing Rain at 16 & the PAs at 18 with Stamina at 22. But I think its too tight for that so the PA & Stamina route is how I'd go too. Then FR at 24, Spectral Terror at 26, Hurricane at 28 & Steamy Mist at 30 maybe?

The 20s are always so much fun

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''Soloing : You really suck at this. Far more than nearly any other AT. Ok at level 26 I got Transference and that helped a bit, but its so slow and boring soloing him
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just 1 word..no

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Hmmmm. Care to elaborate? No to what?

Are you basing that on the experiences of your Illusion / Kinetics? Because Illusion is superb for soloing post Level 18. Kin/Elec Defenders don't have the Deceives, holds & Pets to distract & disabled the mobs that any Illusionist has.

Although Unthing is right. Fulcrum Shift will make it a bit easier. But then you've another issue. At level 38 suddenly every Kinetics Controller can do every trick you can nearly as well. Plus they have Containment Damage too.

Is there life post 38 for Kinetics Defenders?

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I'm talking about kin/sonic kin/elec now tho..elec has held btw?..and a somewhat weak kind of pets...great end drain?..its not the most damaging and takes some time buts its not bad for soloing at all..its a bit better for teams tho and for solo I would go the sonic way..but neither of em sucks for solo

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It's so slooooooow though. I mean it took me ages last night with Soloth to take out one orange boss solo at 26. I've never had a character take so long. And boring too. Poor Mr Streng had no Endurance so he just stood there with a confused look on his face as I tickled him with Snipes & Lightning Bolts.

So yeah, you can solo safely I agree but its so slow you do "suck" at it. And Kinetics is the offensive set!

Roll on Fulcrum Shift

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absolutely nps at all - it was very short notice and lots of people didn't manage to get on in time. I'm just a little bothered that we won't be able to find a time that suits everyone before monday 8pm (it's very probable that I could be the problem player - the weekend's dodgy and I may have to work late on monday).

I'd really prefer to forget individual re-schedules and go for next thursday for everyone. I really think that would create the least problems and also restore the cool tournament atmosphere (but then I'm biased!!)

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I'd like to have the Thursday tourny atmosphere too but I think this week was just the short notice really.

Will we pencil a time/date over the weekend?

Discharge has indeed never shown for a match at all. The 3 lives is a bit odd.

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Alas my cunning attempt to get out of the DIY failed...

Making the draw now.

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Normally I avoid things like DIY by being tactically useless. Used to work great until I bought a house with my girlfriend. She's more useless than me and doesn't care if I drill a few extra rogue holes in the wall.

But tactical uselessness can work. If you haven't scuppered your chances by being handy for the last few years of course.

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Yo peeps, I'll be doing the Round 5 draw for you lovely defianteers later this afternoon (anything to get out of DIY )

Nothing further to add, just thought I'd keep you in the loop so to speak.

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umm, any news about whether or not this is happening tonight?

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It's supposed to be alright. No draw yet though

Nice. I can really visualise the action well the way you write it.

Can't wait for more.

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thunder storm 3recharge/2acc/1dmg

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you really think the accuracy makes a difference??

maybe I should try that... 3 damage just seemed really good tho

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Here's a thing I've thought about. Does Range in Thunderstorm increase the things firing range? It does take Range enhances. I have one in it but I've never actually measured / checked the range increased.

If it does take em a wider "aoe" for it is pretty useful. If not : Bah devs. don't let it take +ranges so.

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Nor does the Flashfire/Fire Cages/Fulcrum/Fireball one

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Ah, but that's only available to a Fire/Kin or a fire/? teamed with a Kin/? or ?/kin. Whereas Flashfire/Fire cages is available to pretty much any Fire controller with Imps (unless they made some rather odd choices...) and once a group's not doing much, then they susceptible to be being smacked in the groin by the three little psychos

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Man I love the three little psychos. Got them over the weekend. Wonderful little guys altogether.

Flashfire / Firecages is a lovely combo. But all the sets have lovely combos.

Mind can do the AOE Sleep followed by Terrorize. Or TK -> Terrorize etc.

Grav has Wormhole -> Immobilise and then single target smackdowns on the hapless targets.

Illusion has PAs -> Spectral terror, with maybe a Deceive or two beforehand.

Ice has Ice Patch -> Artic Air.

Earth has Cover In Poo -> Volcanic gasses.

So all the controller sets have those lovely one-twos really. Fire is just lucky that it gets its so early.

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sorry peeps, am humbled in my errors

carni, i peeped for you on the weekend but couldnt find you as did sparrow, however it was late and global channel was doing its chuff so im not surprised if we missed it.

if you want a chance at duffing up max thunder im well up for a match of some sort, either 1 on 1 or if we can sort it a 3 on 3.

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Sure I may be matched against you this week. Revenge is a dish best served with a nice red wine and some nibbles

Got Mrs Sparrows /tell yesterday alright. Sorry for missing you Sparrow. Stupid Global. Up and down like a bipolar yo-yo in a lift.

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7 Max Thunder/Spawnus/Discharge
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3 Spines Sparrow/Carnifax/Hidden Healer

We got this match played last night (thanks for Sparrow sorting it out and everyone else for playing at short notice, plus subs!)

the teams had a sub each, Bog Monster (earth/storm) subbed for Discharge and Mazos (illusion/empath) subbed for Carnifax.

Team 7 won.

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Eh? Why didn't you get me to sub for myself yis gits? I was on all weekend under my global handle.

I don't mind, I was expecting to lose a life. I just wanted to have a go at taking Max Thunder down really.

Ah well. Next time then

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Siphon Power
It offers +20% dmg to you and your team while weakening target's strenght. Pick it at low lvls. You probably will end up respecing it off after getting Fulcrum Shift.''

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SP is great for debuffing 2..never respec it out..

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For a defender, never respec it out, but for a controller I'd say it is optional. After all in the situations where my defender would be debuffing with SP, a controller would probably be better off using his control powers. My defender rarely has time for his attacks so I imagine SP would be left lonely and untouched in the power tray if they was something better to spam.

This is for the same reason that last night I wasn't suprised when I was teamed with a /kin controller without Speed Boost. It is one of the best powers in the game but it is one of the most annoying to have.

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Yep but if you have it you should offer it. I'm not talking 24/7 coverage but don't make me beg for it as happened a few days ago.

Yes. Of course I begged. I'm not too proud to grovel for SB.

And defender blasts are 80% of corrupters I think. Corrupters are 75% of blasters, defenders are 60% afaik.

Wow. Nice Blindfaith. Well done.

Reminds me of Watchmen and Ozymandias line in merchandising. Are you going to make a Frostfire foe for them with little posable fire munkies & accessories ?

Yep, true enough. Thats partially a sympthom of i7 too though despite the lack of comment from any devs over it bar "prove it to us"

But for a Grav / Storm I would maybe focus on being a nasty ranged single target killer... erm, "arrester" rather than using Air Sup. But then you do have a bit of a tighter power squeeze to get your travel power fitted in.

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Compare it to a PB, who in Nova form and running SOs can 2-shot an even level spawn.

Or how about a stone tank in granite armour and running rooted who is completely indestructable to even lvl mobs (unless they have psi).

So no, I dont think a fire troller is overpowered. I don't think either of the above 2 are overpowered either.

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Yes but I'm talking about a controller that's not even level 10, does'nt have more than 2 enhancements in his powers and who is allready capable of handling massive mobs with the help of only 2 powers.

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It doesn't last though. Mid game you're still good but not as much of a monster. A lot of other toons start easily outdamaging you.

I'd recommend you getting Hotfeet & Air Sup too to maximise damage. Fire Cages runs out of damage-steam very quickly but Hotfeet & Containment is wonderful. If you do you'll be "OMG, they are SO overpowered" until you hit Talos, thats when your single-target damage starts to drop.

But Fire/Rad is a great early Hazard Zone patrolling toon alright. I picked it on purpose to teach The Hollows a lesson. I has so much fun there and in the streets of Perez.

Wonderfully colourful sets too. Orange and lime everywhere

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So recently I rolled a fire/rad toon on defiant after hearing that they were powerfull and it worked pretty neat.
Now, yesterday I walked into perez park and saw a typical perez size even conned mob and I thought "hey what if I go and attack them with fire cages?" so I layed on RI, popped a shipload of inspirations and started running around in circles around the mob spamming firecages once it recharged.
I was in the red a few times but I pulled off a feat that I have never done before. (defeat an entire even conned perez size mob by myself)
Now I wonder:is fire control overpowered?

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Not really. Its a very early bloomer though, both Fire & Rad have great early power.

It is an AOE / Damage monster. Its very powerful indeed against even and lower level mobs. Against higher levels and in your 20s the damage output falls until you get imps.

Also in teams you find yourself becoming "Most Wanted" if your not careful and can easily get squished repeatedly.

It is a lot of fun though. My Illusionist is better at soloing a smaller spawn of +2s, my Fire Controller is better at a massive crowd of even levels.

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* don't mix immobs atacks with freezing rain, as it counters the knockup effect of the slippery ice.

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Depends on the immob. Dark Blasts tentacles & Gravs immobs doesn't do -knockdown/back so Storm / Dark & Grav / Storm are safe enough here.

My Illusion / Storm is a ranged char anyway with Blind, Spectral Wounds and Deceive for added chaos so I don't have the issue but yep Hurricane isn't the greatest for pb aura & melee attack strong controllers.

Wormhole is basically an AOE TP foe with Disorientate in it isn't it? Do you need LOS? You don't with TP Foe but I've never played Grav so I'm unsure. But Blackholing them somewhere uncomfortablem, group immob and then pin them with Hurricane and use Lift may be an option. I'd actually drop Air Sup for a Grav / Storm as you don't have PB auras which complement it as Ice, Fire and the Rad secondary have (off the top of my head, there might be more) and take another single target ranged attack maybe. Or Haste / SS to cycle your current attacks more quickly

Good for me anyway

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well the thing is we aranged a date but only 4 of us turned up for it... so if they dont turn up i loose by default... that seems unfair!

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I couldn't make it, my gfx card melted so I'm happy to lose a life either way.

So do you guys want to play the match? I'll play and auto-lose a life no worries to get it played.

I know Max isn't around, he's on hols, so we'll get a sub for him. Is Discharge about at all?

Lord Spawnus, Ms Sparrow and Hidden what do you guys want to do? Happy to play over the weekend, not tomorrow evening though, got a stupid work thing I can't avoid.

9:00 CET is 8:00 BST / IST

So it starts at 8 for the UK & Ireland.

*Edit : Sorry guys. I got my Taskforces mixed up. Didn't realise this was the Clockwork one, I've already done it before. So I'm out. Sorry for the confusion

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E5

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You sunk my Battleship!

Soz, couldn't resist. Great idea Thorny.

I'll go with F7 please