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Quote:The thing is, though, it doesn't seem like they sat down and recognized which elements from the comic needed to be preserved so they could put their own spin on them. For example, with Shane they're essentially taking the survivalist elements out of Rick's character and putting them into Shane just so down the road someone (probably Lori) will pull out the "You sound just like Shane" line. It's simply too obvious. That's just one example of them forcing the drama instead of letting it happen.Originally Posted by Chyll
I agree to a point, Cap. I accept that the TV and comic stories will deviate. But the deviations now are drifting into completely different story land. Shane's continued survival is the fulcrum. Last night makes sense with him there, it fits nicely and was indeed quite powerful. However, his being alive has driven significant change. And now Sophia is dead which is going to have an impact on Carl certainly, and they aren't leaving the farm on schedule. And frankly, as powerful as last night's conclusion was, the actual cracking of Herschel and comic's conclusion was no less powerful....
However, the show continues to add some great stuff.
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Quote:I didn't really find it to be powerful so much as forced. That zombie Sophia would wait until all of the other zombies came out first made everything the writers were trying to do too obvious, which didn't help on top of the lingering stupidity of Shane ranting about how dangerous all the zombies in the barn are and then busting the place open right in front of everyone.Originally Posted by Mystic_Fortune
I dunno, that ending to the Sophia arc was pretty damn powerful. I applaud them for that. Although, I knew it was coming from the spoilers I happened upon in the beginning of the week. It was definitely worth watching.
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Quote:Yes I know they're not going to follow it exactly and I don't expect them to. It's just the departures from the comics haven't been worth the screentime they've had. I don't mind changes in the translation so long as they're good. So far they haven't been.Originally Posted by Sevenpenny
Cap.....you are aware that they will never follow the comic verbatim, right? Even Kirkman said that the comic is not canon for the series.....besides those of us that have read the comics would know what was happening at every turn and would get bored with the show and stop watching it....
Yes, I do understand (what Im going to guess is) frustration with the overall story.....IMO the comic is (pretty much) nothing more than a framework for the series to follow and thats all..... -
Just watched it. They are butchering this story.
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Quote:Well, Andrea was the first one to notice Michonne talking to herself, and called her out on it.Originally Posted by Shadow Wail
In the comic, the one interaction I never see is between Michone and Andrea and when they actually gets the grapes to introduce her, I want to see some Andrea/Michone stoy going on.
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Thoughts:
- Wow, that is a serious misappropriation of resources with the chickens.
- Glad to see Carl up and about, but he needs to be sporting the hat!
- I can definitely see how they're setting up the secrets angle just so Rick has something to throw back in Lori's face when it all comes out.
- Yay, Carl has the hat! Now he needs the gun . . .
- Let's see what Dale does with this information.
- Speaking of guns, thank the **** christ they gave Andrea hers and let her claim her sharpshooter status; there was some serious undermining of her character going on for a while there . . .
- Hmm, that whole "Rick is the leader" thing is sort of getting underplayed with Dale going to Hershel about staying on the farm; let's hope we get a scene of the unofficial leaders of the group talking out some of the problems that are arising.
- Finally Carl gets his gun, now he just need to pop one of the barn zombies to save his mother to get her to shut up about it.
- Otis was the only one good with a gun . . . WOMP-WOMP
- That was a good moment with Maggie offering up her perspective on the barn zombies.
- And that wasn't such a good moment with Shane going all drill instructor on Andrea: bit too cliche.
- What if that zombie in the pharmacy has been there this whole time and simply watched Maggie and Glenn go at it last time?
- Arg, it's two steps forward and one step back with Andrea hooking up with Shane.
- I'm pretty surprised that Dale didn't bring up how Shane was banging his best friend's wife when they got into that confrontation.
- Not really caring for Maggie seemingly trying to drive a wedge between Glenn and the rest of his group, but at least later we see Glenn noting how he volunteers to scavenge instead of brooding.
- They probably could have set up Dale's feelings toward Andrea to be more than protective a bit better, perhaps with those simple thoughtful glance shots scattered throughout the series; it's somewhat of a cheap soap opera thing to do, but it works, and Shane's accusation of those feelings wouldn't be so out of left field.
- Lori's pregnancy will definitely come into play when they confront Hershel about staying, but I'm worried that they're throwing too many elements in for when that all comes to a head; Hershel's abrupt breakdown in the comics was quite fitting.
- Finally they let Lori confess everything; I was disappointed when they were dragging that out, so let's see what they can do when these little sources of internal drama have been deflated.
- Also, they need to bring Sophia back, because all the little moments she has with Carl were pretty nice touches in the comics; I'm noticing this as I'm going back to read my volumes.
- What's going to happen when/if Shane gets popped? Will Andrea regress into a sobbing waste of space? Will she leave?
- Also, when/if they introduce Tyrese, will they play up Dale's jealousy if those two start getting friendly, since Carol is getting closer to Daryl?
- I simply cannot wait for the Great Barn Escape so all of the useless characters can be culled; perhaps Sophia will come back zombified and Carol will try to get her into the barn, thus causing the zombie breakout?
There's signs of life with this show, but let's hope the writers realize it's because they moved things toward the comic. -
"Precise muscle control."
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What's up with them choosing terrible shots to show off comic book characters on magazine covers these days?
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Black Widow has been Enchantress this whole time!
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Cap is the only one who gets to look at Black Widow's ***.
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Quote:There was no stupid lost Sophia arc in the comics.Originally Posted by 2short2care
Ok I gotta know the suspense is killing me, do they find Sophia and is she alive or zombified then have to put her down? I am asking for those who read the comic, I know we don't know in the tv show yet, but in the comic I sure would like to know if they find her or not.
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Quote:Oops mistype.Originally Posted by Dark One
It's "waist". "Waste" is something else entirely...
I was thinking that that was more to stabilize the arrow than anything else. Tie it around the arrow, then tie it around yourself, to keep it from moving and potentially causing more trauma, along with a modicum of tourniquet/blood soak.
It just doesn't make sense when there doesn't seem to be any drawback of taking the arrow out, and it doesn't look like there's any stabilization to be had when you tie it down at the same point it's going through.
Did any of them have lines? And how long ago?Quote:They've been there, just in the background. I'm pretty sure I saw both of 'em in previous scenes/episodes.
In the comic it seemed like they were only there for a week or two tops. And in the comic he pretty much said the same thing, but it was Rick who assumed they could stay. However, even when they discussed it further, Rick told Hershel (no "c" BTWQuote:I'm not sure how long they were at Herschel's in the comic. He at least made the point of him telling Rick that they weren't welcome there forever, unlike springing it on him in the comic. 
) he hoped he'd reconsider after seeing how useful they could be.
Did the kid mention the horse or just him going along? (And did they even show the kid in any of the search parties out in the woods?) It seemed like Daryl just took the horse without asking anyone. And then when they were getting ready to take care of that "zombie" out in the field, Rick mentioned Hershel wants to deal with them his own way (and when was this?) and Shane's just like, "**** that, let's go."Quote:Exactly what, beyond Glenn nailing Maggie is all that inconsiderate? They seem to be acting all right to me. Rick was willing to take that kid at his word that Herschel was ok with the horse and him going (though, yes, it wouldn't hurt to check with him).
And then the trophy necklace went in is mouth later! Did you see?Quote:He did wash it off in the lake.
I'd think he'd be more concerned with the wound. But the trophy necklace was a stupid way to play up his badassery anyway.Quote:Because you've got a pacifist host and you bring a wounded guy back with an ear necklace? Not exactly the best impression to make. -
Thoughts:
- I guess they figured, hey we got all these cars set up on the highway, let's shoot an extra scene; still, I'd rather they add to the source material through these flashbacks than the characters that do nothing and the sub-plots that go nowhere.
- Kind of weird that they'd have Carol bring up Rick's leadership position when that hasn't really been established.
- Is it just me or did they totally skip over the introduction of those two other kids and are now acting like they've been there the whole time?
- Looks like they felt compelled to address the electricity with the scene by the generator.
- How are you going to start reminiscing then get pissed about bringing up the past?
- I sure as hell wouldn't be using the same arrows/bolts to hunt my food as the ones I use to kill zombies.
- Would tying a piece of cloth around your waste on top of the arrow really help?
- Ugh, I can see that the writers are recognizing folks are taking a liking to Daryl, but using the hallucination as an excuse to center the episode around him just feels weak; leave the dredging up of stereotypes up to the audience and just let the characters be.
- Was that really the best way to get up that hill? Really?
- They certainly seem to be bringing out Hershel's dickishness earlier than they did in the comic; although, just why the hell is Rick's group so eager to piss off Hershel with their inconsideration?
- Again, didn't you just use that knife to stab a zombie, and now you're cutting open your lunch with it?
- Glenn's advances toward Maggie seem to be running counter to his earlier and persisting sheepishness.
- Sweet! They're finally going to give Andrea a gun and show everyone what she can do! Oh ****, really? She's not going to shoot him because she's got a scope, right? Nope of course there's glare somehow . . . So . . . stupid . . . So . . . forced.
- And why the hell did everyone run out to kill one zombie?
- Also, why did Glenn mention the trophy necklace and not Daryl's bloodloss?
- The note-passing thing seems as forcibly dramatic as the outdoor pregnancy test scene.
- Does anyone know how to play the guitar? . . . Otis did . . . WOMP-WOMP
- A hint of Daryl totally replacing Tyreese with Carol cozying up to him?
- Glenn's little head is going to pop from all these secrets.
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Quote:I tried to give you cool points, but now I must take them back.Originally Posted by Dark One
I blame it on the fact that I specialized in Groundwater Geology. Did much homework with hydraulic head, gradients, and all kinds of other stuff that I've forgotten in the last few years.
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You've already put more thought into the well zombie than the writers or characters, sir.
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Quote:You didn't hear? Taylor Lautner will be playing all of the Seven Dwarves.Originally Posted by Lothic
Yeah I would say this trailer made the movie look awesome except for reminding me Kristen Stewart is in it.
The whole "Stench of Twilight" surrounding her is just something I'll to have to try to forget about if I want to see this. I suppose as long as absolutely no one else related to the Twilight franchise is involved in this movie then she might be able to do a passable enough job here to let me enjoy the rest of it. -
Could've been cool if it weren't for ******* Bella.
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Quote:Isn't that pretty much a scientific fact? I recall hearing that somewhere.Originally Posted by Frostbiter
And the danger factor is a serious turn-on for some people.
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Quote:Er, that's her dad. >.>Originally Posted by Frostbiter
I'm all for Glen getting more screen time. To me he is one of the more interesting characters. And when the zombie apocalypse comes you take it when you get it. Besides I rather think Maggie's grandpa is the shotgun toting type. That rules out doing it at the farm.
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Matt Damon in The Bourne Identity?
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Quote:Er I thought they already dismissed that idea? o.OOriginally Posted by Desi_Nova
Ive read on other sites theories that Merle will show up as a certain "big bad" type character that was in the Comic. (trying to avoid spoilers)
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Quote:It doesn't help when the same level of quality isn't there, though.Originally Posted by Lothic
Given how successful Lost was as a show I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of other shows try to copy it in some form or fashion.
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Quote:It would also be in line with their attempts to make this the new Lost.Originally Posted by Lothic
This at least seems plausible given what we know. It would "explain" Merle being there and conclude the Sophia arc of the story.
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Quote:Still doesn't make sense but based on the writing of this show so far I can't rule it out.Originally Posted by Frosty_Femme
Because I think he feels pretty bad about it, and what he may have had to do and he doesn't want to break the news to her in such a harsh and realistic way. So, he tells the story about the Trail of Tears and brings her a Cherokee Rose that will represent Sophia eternal presence. He even leaves with that comment about how Sophia will "like it there". I think it's his way of saying, "I'm sorry, but your daughter is dead. I found the body." without having to actually come right out and say it. Besides, I think Carol understood what he was saying. The look on her face was on of sad gratitude. She knows Sophia is gone and Daryl just confirmed it. The one person in the group that was absolutely adamant that they would find her and she'd be OK.
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Quote:Why wouldn't he just say that, then? o.OOriginally Posted by Frosty_Femme
I think the reveal will be that she was at the house and Daryl found her body in the ravine beyond the flower. The question will be whether she was dead or undead when he found her. The story he told about the flower implied pretty strongly that she's gone and he knows it.