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Quote:Originally Posted by Doctor_Gemini
The same logic makes buying any CoX box justification to have absolutely nothing taken away by becoming a Premium. After all, I could not play a controller without one of the CoX boxes, therefore, I "bought" controllers. I could not use IOs without buying one of the CoX boxes, therefore I "bought" IOs. And so on.
GR was NOT the Incarnate System expansion, it was the new low-level zones with some new powersets expansion. Nowhere on the box does it mention incarnates. The reason someone may have bought it is irrelevant if they have chosen to stop paying a subscription, because incarnate content required GR AND a subscription and the purchaser knew that at the time.
Whether I bought CoH, CoV, or GR, I bought an overall package containing a game system ON THE UNDERSTANDING that I had to pay a subscription fee to play ANY of the game. That means if I choose to stop paying a fee, I have no "rights" to access anything I payed for previously even if the game goes F2P.
Controllers and Masterminds yeah, they should probably be auto-unlocked if you ever bought a box. IO system not so much, it was never advertised as part of a box/edition release.
AE on the other hand, that probably should be auto-unlocked if the player bought the AE edition release. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Xanatos
What i'd do for premiums that have bought Going Rogue:
-allow for alpha slot.
-Don't allow access into iTrials.
That's pretty much what I'd say as well.
Pretty sure companies are meant to honour their advertising, even if said advert was a mistake. -
Should of stuck around with Mister Mussleini but it was food time.
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Quote:Originally Posted by TerraDraconis
Only in 1 add that was not supported by the box statements or any other statements. If the box stated you got it then you would have a case. But one marketing person screwing up in copy somewhere? no.
Oh you mean the one add that anyone unable to purchase a physical box would of had to base their purchase on? The one add that funny enough popped up right before pre-purchase through NCsoft was enabled? That one add that was all that anyone without a NA account, and NA shops would be able to base the purchase on? -
Quote:Originally Posted by TerraDraconis
There is lets take it to the next step which you are refusing to follow.
Now as a special bonus the company is offering all former subscribers to the satellites but if they don't pay the subscription fee they don't have access to the GPS system.
And there you have incarnates. You must pay the monthly subscription fee for access to them. All other gates to it's access are gone but you must still pay for access.
But they advertised the special feature as part of buying the satalite, and then later said you'd keep everything you bought. -
Quote:Originally Posted by LadyGrimrose
The Alpha slot was going to be a "sneak peak" in Going Rogue. They pushed it back based on player feedback not Marketing. On the main page they have been very clear that incarnate access is only VIP.
The choice to support the game is years. But, again. VIPs deserve to reap the benefits of their subscription and if it's not Incarnates that is locked away then it "will" be something else.
The argument could be you bought CoH so you should have access to everything because all the features are linked to the main game itself. This boils down to the right of NcSoft to alter subscription and non-subscription content however they wish. It is stated as such in the Eula.
I prebought GR based on getting the incarnate sneak peak, that it was pushed back a little before GR launched, pissed me right off at the time. -
I'd so send the invites to friends who used to play, but they are from the EU, so what's the point when Paragon treats us like ****?
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Quote:Originally Posted by Justice Blues
What she said. And remember, all that time is going to be taken away from working on new content. And not just coders. You would need new animations, new powers, new designs for new mobs, new missions, etc. All so that when we get to level 50, we can still fight Hellions and Skulls.
If they are charging for it, then it should be worth the effort.
'Good enough' shouldn't be their motto for premium content. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Feycat
Yes, indeed. Some people do not.
You had to have GR installed to ACCESS Incarnates.
Yet incarnates DID NOT RELEASE with GR. They were not PART of GR. GR was the gating system which allowed you to access it.
Incorrect you have going rogue installed either way, you can only access the content if you've purchased it. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Feycat
Why would we want that to happen?
If preems want access to incarnates THAT BADLY (and I can tell you that many of them don't - I've got at least 6 people coming back with ZERO interest in it) then they can pay. Just like they had to before. Then the game gets money to keep going.
How is this not desirable?
Because when you sell something to people. with an spect included Incarnate system for example, but later have to delay the release of that aspect. Don't then act like you didn't included it as part of the original purchase.
Don't sell some one a box of cornflakes, with a decoder ring in. Only to remove the decorder ring until it's fixed, and then pretend it wasn't part of the cornflakes box anyway. -
The dev's ****** up, what they said would happen didn't. It happens some times, though if enough people point it out then they might give access to the Alpha slot, which was part of GR at least until once again the devs ****** up.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
Really? "The prime of all prime times"? Have you checked the percentage of Oceanic players?
The vast majority of the playerbase is in North America; following that, in Europe. I believe the most recent downtime was in the wee hours of the morning (~4am?) CST, which would put it close to midday in the UK. That's far from prime time for the vast majority of the playerbase, who are asleep (NA) or at work/school (EU). If I were to make an executive decision on when to take down my servers, that's a time period I would go for, certainly.
He means that Friday evening/night, is not the time for an online game to go down regardless of region.
It's sort of one of the unoffical/offical rules of MMO development, up there with don't release a patch right before you all go on holiday. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Gangrel_EU
They were up from about 4pm...
I have *just now* been kicked from my mission (mapserver problem), so i dont know as to *when* the server problem started.
Some people could log in, anyone past a certain point who tried it, would get dumped to log in screen. -
Back Alley Brawler, Dev has left. Doesn't have a TF. No longer has a zone. And of course, the Black Guy always dies first.
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So yeah the servers are back up, but not the servers whose player base's prime time is about to start.... yay.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Dawnshift
After reading this thread, I'm convinced that many people here have no lives at all. To complain because a /video game/ is down for necessary maintenance is just pathetic. I honestly don't care if you think you deserve the game to be running 24/7 because that just isn't going to happen. The game has been down for maybe a day when you add up all the maintenances this entire month. You guys are really complaining about that? Grow up, children. Get out of your computer chairs and go do something else until the game is back up.
A day spread out over multiple days, all in the prime time of a particular customer group. It's not a case of 'Oh it's down for an hour I'll watch Dr Who' it's a case of 'It's down today, oh well maybe tomorrow. Oh wait it's down tomorrow too, maybe I should cancel my subscription since they did the same thing last week." -
Quote:Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Doesn't matter. NCSoft isn't responsible for their inability to play the game more frequently. That's a personal problem they need to deal with on their own.
Yeah who gives a **** about the EU player base right? It's their own dirty damn fault, for operating on different time zones to the US. And as for those Oceanic customers ... -
Quote:Originally Posted by Mallerick
I'd settle for a few weeks head start on Freedom and I21 before it launches to the public, to be honest.
That sounds good, but can't help feeling like we are beta testing the system for the free players. Really should be the other way round. -
Sounds awesome.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Lothic
Hint: This game is run by Paragon Studios. Sure they are owned by NCSoft, but they WON'T be making the decision as to whether we get compensation for such a "trivial" problem such as this or not. *shrugs*
Actually it's run by NCSoft, why do you think it takes so long for the Dev's to reveal anything? Everything has to be double checked with NCSoft. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Lothic
Good for them. As soon as those other MMO companies start running -this- game then maybe your point will have some actual validity here.
I'll have to check but I belive NCSoft has done so in the past too. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Lothic
Why do you keep clinging to WoW as an example of what this game should do? It's almost like asking your local mom and pop hardware store to live up to the same policies a huge store like Home Depot can afford.
I've already said I could easily see them giving us some PP as a means to apologize. I just think this idea that the company could or should cough up real money for this is overreaching on your part by leaps and bounds.
If you want a more extreme example FF14 launched, and was dire, what did S-E do? They made the game free to play, until people were satisified with the state of the game.
And why would adding the 1 day extra to my account be any different than giving us PP? Both 'cost' them real money. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Lothic
Oh I see that it is a "problem". Any downtime for anyone is bad. I simply don't see your "solution" to it as reasonable in any context given the otherwise wonderful uptime record this company has demonstrated in 7.5 years.
You don't hang someone for a parking violation. Your "punishment" you would impose on the company doesn't really fit the crime.
Why would it be punishment, I'm just asking that they acknowledge that the EU lost over a day and credit us that amount. WoW has done it several times, usually when funny enouigh an expansion or hardware upgrade balls up a server or two, or all of them. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Gemini_2099
Beam Rifle definitely was a lost opportunity to showcase it for potential customers. Pumice is very soft in real life and is porous...not intimidating but I suspended my belief for a second before I keeled over in laughter.
You have seen the boss mobs of that group right? Animated lava? How is that not a threat to a high level hero? i mean you're still fighting guys with guns, whats a guy with a gun got that a walking slab of molten rock doesn't have? Well other than a gun obviously. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Lothic
Yes. But even if I wasn't then there would always be -some- time I could play, even if that was at my 3am local time. The fact that you don't WANT to play at your local 3am timeframe is immaterial. You're paying for it anyway so why don't you play at 3am?
We lost 30+hours in a week and half, pretty much all of it slap bang in the middle of prime time. If you can't see a problem with over a full days time lost, then we are done discussing this.