BrandX

Originally Posted by Necrotron_RO

I'm glad these changes have sated a portion of the playerbase that was upset in the super packs would be 'the only' way to obtain ATIOs, however, these changes do nothing to assuage the frustration my portion of the playerbase has.

For those of us who only want the costume parts from the super packs, where are we left? I have no use for consumables (my e-mail is still filled with the freebies), and I don't want to collect ATIOs. So, why would I buy the packs? Costume parts.

However, at this point, I'm spending a money for packs filled with stuff I don't want and no guaranteed chance of getting any costume parts, and thus, I will likely not buy any. I would, however, want to buy the costume parts at a fair price.

At this point, I sort of expecting to write these new parts off as unattainables because given the other stuff I don't want that is being bundling into what I want to buy, they will likely be too expensive to warrant purchasing. However, I still hold out hope for change.

Originally Posted by Blue_Centurion

Thanks all. My wife helped me with the decision and we sort of went a different direction. i will do that MA / Regen one day though lol.

Originally Posted by Aggelakis

I really hate to belittle anyone, but a large number of the fanmade comics are really bad in one way or another...it's like AE, I don't want to wade through so much chaff to get to the good ones. So I don't even look anymore.

Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle

One of the main arguments against the first post of this thread, exemplified here, is that long-standing forum vendettas dictate that this game system should never be changed because heroes have had it too good for too long. Maybe you guys should take a look inward to see whether this is something worth harboring disdain over.

Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle

Obviously being two different people there is no inconsistency here on anyone's part but I found it a little funny hearing exactly opposing points back to back. Thing is, I don't disagree with either of you. It's interesting and makes sense to have to unlock the pools, yet that is easily ignored and the game doesn't try very hard at all to engage you in that mechanic beyond forcing you to click through a bit of text and be present in a few missions.

What I think the OP has an issue with, and what I have an issue with, is that if you don't care about the story then unlocking these pools is just a big waste of your time. If you stacked all the missions you had to do end to end it's only a couple hours, no big deal, but the fact that it is also spread over a number of days by a number of annoying timers makes it a pain to do. It isn't fun. We know they could do better because they have produced much better content than this many times since issue 7.

I'm not a programmer but I don't think it would be that hard to add some SSA-like contact who sent you off via submarine to run a patron's missions under cover, or whatever. They could feel free to come up with something better than that if they wanted to. Any method of heroically gaining access to the patron pools would be an improvement over the current situation as long as it weren't either character-breaking or tediously protracted, a feat they could manage handily.

Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle

Speaking only for myself, if I waited in vigilante limbo from 20 to 34 I would be losing several billion influence per character from the hero merits I wouldn't be earning. Of course you don't actually have to do it at level 20 but to dismiss losing hero merits offhand is rather silly as they are massively lucrative.

That aside, what are you supposed to do if your character concept doesn't involve deciding to become a villain for any amount of time, especially not for a reason as petty as getting an in with a cadre of chumps who wind up being so much incarnate fodder in the end? I don't feel particularly strongly about this myself but having read this forum I can tell you that a lot of people would. "So live without those powers," you reply. Why should we have to? What would be wrong with an alternate means of access? What if someone really wants to be a heroic ghost shark summoner?

Me, I never use those pools because red side seems completely pointless and I like hero merits too much to turn them off for such questionable benefit. Even though I can clearly live without them, though, would I complain about more access to more content? I would not.

Originally Posted by Dz131

Good thing you brought up A Merits that's another one of my gripes. You can't get any from tips or SSA in that period either. Thats like 4-5 merits you missed out(one for each change and one for the SSA weekly).

Originally Posted by Dz131

Yep. And since this isn't the first time this is brought up, I guess other people are too. But too bad this thread is turning to a excuse for forum celebs to PL their post count.

Originally Posted by The_Overlord

I could never get into a lot of the fan-comics. Either they used slightly creepy-looking (IMO) CG, or they used the in-game models with lines hastily drawn around the objects and characters. I'm sure some of them were well written, maybe even a lot of them, but I kinda prefer drawn comics myself. Especially since most of the in-game screenshot comics can only draw from the same pool of animations, so the actual panels are visually uninteresting...

I'd totally love to see more drawn ones, though. Like I said, it's more of a personal preference thing.

Originally Posted by Myddie

Count me in as a mom who is more conservative at this point in her life.

I could care less about what others in the game are wearing, be it almost nothing, or totally covered. I'm not playing those characters.

I'm also *not* against the revealing, frilly, feminine stuff. There's also a good argument there that Frilly/Feminine does not have to include revealing as well, but I'll leave that to others. I love many of the feminine pieces and use them, covering up skin with tights and other pieces where I can.

My problem is the Gunslinger set having nothing 'gunslinger' for females. Plain and simple.

I don't understand those here who keep accusing us of being prudish, or that we're accusing the designers of being sexist, etc. Desiring to create female characters that are dressed more masculinely, or conservatively female is hardly prudish.

There has not been a single person here who has decried that all sexualized pieces should be removed. Not one.

Now, if I created a frumpy character and stood in Atlas, pointing at all the painted Jezebels running around and hassling them, *THEN* feel free to call me prudish. :P

Otherwise, can we stop derailing things by dragging up such hyperbole?

I have to echo what others have said. Sure, we have some options, but it gets tiring having to resort to those same options over and over when there just isn't anything else conservative being put out to supplement those old options.

One could argue easily that cheesecake can be created with what's already in the game, so why do we need more? Why does conservative get told to 'suck it up' and be accused of trying to ruin the fun?

Originally Posted by daveyj3

also, explain to me why nightstar -a robot- has boobs, and seige -also a robot and basically the same- isnt even really humanoid. explain. *really*.

Originally Posted by Impish Kat

I do not like cheesecake...

But I do like pie....

I like all different kinds of pie....

But I don't want pie for every single meal...

If I were to have pie for every single meal, I don't think I'd like it as much.
I might even *gasp* get tired of pie.

So, in order to keep pie special and enjoyable, I prefer to consume it in moderation.

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Originally Posted by Dz131

Shouldn't it be time to open this up to both sides without like weeks of alignment missions? Or have an lv50 arc that puts you undercover so that it makes sense to have it.

It's like every hero I make needs to go through this ritual of sides witching because the Villian pools are imo alot better.

Originally Posted by Leo_G

Because disproportioned female hips is to Liefeld as cosplay is to BrandX?

Originally Posted by Deebs

bunches of people threatened to ragequit ? not saying it didn't happen but I might of missed that , I was off camping for a few days and missed some of the original thread .

I do know quite a few people , myself included did say they'ed be voting with their dollars and avoiding purchasing the gunslinger pack which seems much more sensible then ragequiting .

Heck you even told folks that if they didn't like it not to buy it I belive granted I think you also said something about not complaining too .

Originally Posted by Deebs

strangely enough I saw one in demo for a game recently but it was listed as the 'sex appeal' slider and enhanced certain attributes on both male and female characters in the game ..I think it was Saints Row 3 .

as for a attributes slider I wish the female one went smaller , my grade schooler power puff girl homage looks like she is stuffing her bra .

Originally Posted by Firemoth

Still trying to figure out how we're supposed to run in those things....