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I'd try to soft cap defenses without the use of Energy Absorbtion (while still using EA), then build on +RCH and +HP.
Hoarfrost coming up more often is great, and the +HP so you won't need it as often. -
Quote:Didn't pay attention untill the last mission 4 of the ITF, and we were fighting Romi.Originally Posted by New Dawn
What was you fighting? You'll have two Mag 4 auras slightly less in duration than AAO but 1 Mag higher. Taunt with an 80 sec duration with which should make AAO look like junk. I will go play my Ice/Ice with a Shield later or sometime this week and see if there is any hope of it stealing aggro. Getting aggro due to lack of thorough consolidation and maintenance is another thing.
I had the taunt toggles going (CE and Icicles), using taunt when it was up, and laying in with the single target attacks (Ice Blast, Freezing Touch, Ice Sword, and Epic Ice Hold).
Sometimes he'd turn his attention back to me, but he was pretty fond of the Shield Scrapper (who I think was Fire Melee). -
Quote:This was against a single target (Romi), all by himself, no ambushes. And Romi just liked the shield scrapper better than my Ice Tanker.Originally Posted by Madam_Enigma
Did you rotate who you pound on? Anymore it usually tanks a tanker to pull stuff off my ice/mace tanker. And I don't have taunt yet. But then, with each attack I am punchvoking 5 different foes. Sometimes a blaster will start to pull something off me, then it realizes I just smashed a warmace into a friend and turns around to face me.
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If it helps, all the armor sets, do better on tankers and brutes, than Scrappers and Stalkers
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Quote:While I agree, that lack of toggle dropping has made click mez resistance a bit harder, have you thought about instead, trying to get the recharge down, so it's still perma once you take into account SOs and exemping.Originally Posted by Stolid
I would sooner take away Practiced Brawler and add the mez resistances to one of the three toggles. Having a click mez protection is not really beneficial in SR's case anymore, since toggles don't drop if you get mez'd. Turn Practiced Brawler into something else--perhaps a small amount of damage done to every opponent of which you dodge via your defenses (not a natural miss--I think internally it calculates when you dodge from your defenses, as opposed to when they just miss from the natural 50/50, doesn't it?) while it's active. of course, that's more effective for brutes than scrappers, since they have a taunt aura..
Though I wouldn't mind AOE/Range Defense combined into one, and then having the level 35 power becoming a passive Adrenaline Boost! -
Quote:While I'm not sure about this drop off of Dual Pistol users, I would expect to wait and see how GR goes (as some people still dont have dual pistols access) and in the end, I think more people want a Dual Pistols/Armor toon, over what is currently available.Originally Posted by Cyber_naut
That's not the point, I'm not arguing that the set needs to be the 'best of the best'. But if it's not fun to play and is mediocre to poor at everything, then it's a lame set.
As mediocre as dual pistols is/was, at least it's a fun set to play and has lots of aoe, and on top of that, has a cool 'gimmick' that adds to the fun factor with changing ammo. Despite all that, I still see FAR less people playing dual pistols nowadays, I expect we'll see a similar dropoff with KM if it's as gimpy as it seems to be.
I'd love to be proven wrong on my intitial feelings about KM, because I was really looking forward to a new melee set, but I'm not overly optimistic. Time will tell I guess.
At least, I know, that what I really want out of a Dual Pistols. Like I said before (in other threads), that's the hero I envisioned making when I bought the game over 5 years ago.
I'm not to sure it's all about whether the set is top tier or not. Though, I do think people want every new set to be the best of the list. -
Quote:Don't think Hoarfrost will be missed?Originally Posted by Lovejuice
Scorpion Shield over Frozen Armor makes me clutch my pearls.
Sexy purple aura S/L def shield in one power pick over unflattering hip expanding cyber-ice blocks combined with a side order of Snow Storm or Flash Freeze? Shaking and crying right now. -
Quote:Hmmm...and like I just stated, even then, aggro can be stolen, as it was taken from me quite easily.Originally Posted by SPiNE
Definitely, I always believe that all Tanks should take Taunt. Auras are good at grabbing aggro and alphas, but in order to hold aggro effectively, you need that Taunt!
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Having never read the comic, just seeing the movie, is it really that bad that he removed the helmet?
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Quote:I had two taunt auras (CE slotted with just ENDRED and Icicles slotted with 3 Cleaving Blows and 3 Eradiacations), and Taunt (6 slotted with Mocking Berratement)...attacking with Ice Melee and Ice Mastery attacks...and losing aggro to the shield scrapper.Originally Posted by Lord_Thanatos
People that are asking about why shield scrappers can pull off of them is that AAO has a tank level taunt. So added to scrappers damage, and they can easily grab aggro from tanker with just a taunt aura and moderate damage.
And I was taunting regularly.
Though it was a survivable Scrapper, so all in all, not to much of a problem, but still, I was surprised at it. I even had initial aggro. -
Quote:Well asking in the GR board has so far been, yes you do. And last I heard in Beta, was it was the case as well.Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
I'd also like verification.
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They're still making episodes?! I loved the show, but with it not being on CN, I thought it was over early.
Where is everyone watching it now? -
Quote:I usually start TFs at +1 or +2 difficulty without telling my team what my difficulty is set atOriginally Posted by Eva Destruction
Yeah, the problem is there's no point in bringing toons that can't solo most of it. Of course the speed runners want you to bring that debuffer...they just don't care if you die as long as you're there to help with the AV.
And LOL at turning up difficulty. Trying to get most teams to do that is like pulling teeth.
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Quote:I think everyone wishes it did, and likely for the same reason.Originally Posted by doomrider
Wishes the def debuff in CAK took enhancements...
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Quote:Then up the difficultyOriginally Posted by Another_Fan
That is pretty much the way many TFs are going now. STF would have that but ghost widow makes large amounts of melee less desirable.
Citadel,Manticore, Numina, ITF are all being run in a similar manner and I have seen Master of Khans virtually soloed at high speed by tanks the team being mostly superfluous except for the final encounter.
Its not a really good situation for the game. I have to think the HVMs are an attempt to devalue speed tfing but that is a little like Ben Tre destroying the game to save it. Or do what I've done when you have that toon on the TF who can solo most of it, go off and attack things yourself.
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I've made more than one scrapper who didn't use the Epic Pools. So no, they aren't needed.
However, Conserve Power (or Focused Accuracy) and Physical Perfection are powers that fit easily into pretty much any concept. -
Quote:If they weren't his sidekick, they'd just be off crimefighting without him.Originally Posted by Comeuppance
If anything, Bats should be held responsible for endangering the lives of his "sidekicks".
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Quote:A few thoughts...Originally Posted by SPiNE
I've been wanting to roll an Ice Tank for the longest time. They seem to be amazing tankers in the upper levels, survivability as well as holding aggro.
Only problem is, what am I suppose to do when I'm tanking AV's? Don't AV's have pretty high base tohit and/or accuracy?
If so, AV's are bound to land several hits on me...and I wont have any resistance at all to withstand it. Sure, Chilling Embrace offers that -14% damage debuff, but that's all I have for mitigation besides my defense and the occasional Hoarfrost. I'm thinking it's going to take a good 50%-75% of my HP per hit from an AV.
I was thinking of going with an Ice/Dark tank, since Dark Melee seems to be the only secondary that has some form of mitigation against AV's, mainly the -tohit debuffs. I was just hoping that stacking -tohit debuffs along with my own defense would help me survive and that Siphon Life would be a nice 20% heal whenever Hoarfrost is down. Is there a better secondary for me to go with besides this?
Edit: Just another question. If Chilling Embrace debuffs a critter's damage by 14%, how does this stack or not stack with your own resistance? For example, if a critter does 100 damage, then Chilling Embrace would cause it to deal 86 damage instead. However, if I have resistance against the critter's damage-type, would my resistance kick in base on the critter's base damage of 100 or would it kick in after Chilling Embrace's damage debuff, which would mean that it'll work off the 86 damage instead of 100 damage.
First off...with Chilling Embrace, Icicles, Taunt, and punchvoke...I noticed on my last run with my Ice/Ice Tanker, that the ??/Shield Scrapper was grabbing aggro off me from Romi. I was not happy. :/
That said, grab Tough for added Resistance (at least to Smashing Lethal).
I think what would help you more with Dark Melee, is Siphon Life, with it's additional +Health. Though stacking the -tohit for sure to lower their chance to hit you a bit more.
However, with GR coming out, you may think about Kinetic Melee. Stacking all the -DMG, which Tankers do the best at compared to all the ATs with access to KM, could very well turn out to be helpful, maybe more so. -
Quote:I was using claws as an example.Originally Posted by Cyber_naut
You have broken the logic barrier. I'm comparing claws to KM, not to every other set in the game. There are many other scrapper primaries that are in the same range as claws in terms of overall performance, KM is not one of them, imo.
Regardless, KM will get lots of play early on due to the fact its a new powerset and it looks nice. Some will play it later on for the same reasons. But that does not speak to the sets performance, though a sharp drop-off in usage after release certainly would.
I think the complaints coming about with KM are the same ones coming about with Dual Pistols.
That the set isn't THE BEST OF THE BEST!
The numbers on Dual Pistols were run, and the set didn't fall at the bottom of the list, infact it came pretty much in the middle.
And yet, it's OMG a terrible set and yet, people were playing the other bottom half of the list before Dual Pistols came along, over the top half of the list. -
Quote:I can't believe I forgot this one! I've been wanting this one forever and I forgot to mention it!Originally Posted by Riverdancer
Taunt: /e getsome
Also, any new animations for kinetics - fulcrum shift, transference and transfusion would be nice.
/em kissit (getsome) as an animation for taunt! -
Quote:Well, for best offensive set ot use with Shadow Meld, I would think a non-weapon set, and likely Fire Melee, as the weapon sets would have the 3 second animation, and redraw to deal with.Originally Posted by Celidya
The 3sec animation makes it a bit long to cast during a melee but, i see it as an "alpha eater" for any of my /dark characters. Usually i die in the first 10sec of a fight, if i don't, everything is dead So using that before jumping in could make a huge difference.
I'm pondering if it could even allow some AV soloing for whatever/dark. It makes me want to play some older characters again, too.
Now the question would be, what offensive set gets the most benefit out of it ? I'm thinking a set with a natural gap in the best attack chain, able to deal some high dps even with a 3sec "hole", while allowing for high recharge slotting to get the most uptime on Shadow meld, but which one ?
For the alignement change, i don't see that as a big hurdle. 2 days to vigilante, 2 days to villain, then 4 days to come back. And the patron storyarc on a low setting can probably be rushed in a very short time. Looks totally worth it. -
Body Mastery/Energy Mastery Epic Laser Beam Eyes...I'd like a 1 handed or 2 handed blast away at the enemy with energy attack (Power Blast would work).
Total Focus and Thunderstrike to get an Eagle Claw animation (obviously with more hand time than EC currently has, due to longer animations).
Charged Brawl to get Thunder Kick or Storm Kick as an animation.
Fire Sword to be given the Barrage Animation (maybe with fire blades formed ont he hands or fiery claws to account for the lethal damage). The 1-2 punch shouldnt require the DOT style of Barrage, as I don't think Slash has the DoT component of it.
Sonic Attack sending out blasts through the hands would be great too.
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Quote:I always thought it was more along the lines that Batman knows, he can't be judge, jury and executioner.Originally Posted by CaptainFoamerang
Except you don't see Batman or Bruce Wayne as a vocal opponent to the death penalty. And I believe there have been situations where Batman has talked to police officers or soldiers that had to kill and reassured them that they did the right thing. So, really, it isn't as if he believes that any type of killing in any type of situation is wrong, which is what I was responding to.
He also knows he can't work outside the law, and kill people, without becoming what he's trying to stop.
Soldiers and Police Officers are in a different position, as they're in a legal area to beable to do such acts.
I think it's best said by Gibbs to McGee in NCIS, "If you wanted to kill him, you should of shot him when he was running." -
Quote:Last I knew, you kept access to the Patron Pools once you unlocked them. Even if you switch to Hero, you unlock them, then you get to always have access.Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
True. However, while I may be a complete aberration in many ways, how many high end scrappers don't respec fairly regularly? I can't respec Bill these days unless I buy a recipe off the market or a new freespec lands.
[EDIT] that said, people still have to go through with doing the alignment missions, and making the switch from hero to villain. So they may not think it's worth the effort. More so if they're softcapped or great on survival now, as it is. -
Quote:That was my point. It's been brought up many times, there are top tier sets, some sets do some things better than others.Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
I didn't read it that way. I read it as "if choosing between the two, why would anyone bother with KM?" Besides concept, I don't have an answer for that.
Not everyone is going to leverage Shockwave as well as the top tier claw users.
And I can't help but think for the fringe player, KM will be seen as a great set. With hearing it's a really good DPS set, combined with the -DMG effect stacking with a well built secondary, I think those fringe players would enjoy it.
I also think it's going to turn out to be a popular set for the masses.