BlueRaptor

That, and it would make the word filter totally pointless. You cant check sound for offensive content easily.

Choosing from a set of dev-provided ambient sounds though? That'd be cool.

Point.

*not much a fan of carrying around and trading parts of animals either*

A select few points come to my mind at that:

1) People have been asking for canine tails and more beast parts for many years now.

2) On that-other-game, after a few months in beta the devs made such proper beast parts, and there was much rejoicing.

3) Its just yet another costume piece each, and they keep adding those, so it cant be THAT much work.

4) There are a lot of rather redundant costume parts that were added while parts that make a much bigger difference are not. Having a slightly different pattern on your medieval era eastern style so-and-so-dynasty samurai helmet crest adornment doesnt make or break a character concept. Having no proper head or tail does easily.

... WHY dont they add more already?!?!? *cries*

"beast"? "animal parts"?

Also, it would be VERY cool (and imo not all that far-fetched) if beast heads had some detail choices like human heads. Like, different "haircuts" including spikes and horns and whatever suits the head, or different or at least color-able eyes, and I am sure a lot of people would appreciate hats or hoods to go with their beast heads too.
(and if you really want to make our day, make some of the face sliders work on beat heads...)

Like leather/bondage, necrophile goths, manga style schoolgirl skirts and other stuff we already have?

(PS: To me, people that enjoy playing a werewolf are furries too. Of course to themselves they are not, as clearly furries must be something totally different from what they are. )

No.

Having the best stuff that you want easily accessible is not an aspect of the game.

And as has been pointed out you can get around that stuff easily.
You can get along well without set IOs, and the normal IOs are fully fine and fairly cheap.
(If you dont need them this very minute AND threw away all your salvage)

Yes, since one can level fast now one also gets less drops until one makes it to a certain level, which lowers the drops one gets until one wants a certain thing. Point. But you can still sell, or work for it. You can turn XP off and only collect cash if you must have it at this level.
Possibility of fast leveling is one thing. But being able to level fast AND getting enough drops to buy the rare stuff easily just from selling everything to the NPCs for its token value? No. Clearly not needed.

Added.

(31).

(Of course, not for everyone leveling is the game. And surely few that know the game will grow totally bored suddenly. I'm just afraid some may end up more bored than before in a while, and that allowing quick level 50 access may prove short-sighted then.)

Fair enough. That's actually all I wanted to know.
Thank you for your opinion.

Oh, and I DO think that leveling WAS pretty slow a few years ago, and OK a few months ago. Its just now...
Hm. Is as point, I guess...
Thanks for your opinion too.

How exactly do you imagine this to work? (Obviously beating him down to a percentage cant work when he is invulnerable so there will have to be another trigger)
Wont option (21) do as well or better?

It is? When I say "Maybe you can level too fast." and am told "But you can slow down if you want!"
After telling again and again that I dont worry that I am leveling too fast. I am fine.
That I can slow down doesnt change anything about it being possible to level fast.

Why I think possible turbo-leveling can be harmful to the community is written above. Several times.

You dont need speed limits on roads either. Sole control over speed has been given to the drivers already. If you want to slow down, just step off the gas.

Totally so. Cant blame new players that have no idea how it's meant to be played, or what options there are.

And if you stop and smell the roses they assume you get xp for it. Sad but true I am afraid.

You do realize that I never said so and that was in reply to someone who said getting to 12.something already takes him over two days? But thanks for enlightening us.

I technically dont need to show anything since I only asked if other people have the feeling that its possible to zip past the content too fast too.
But does the majority of players (on the majority of their character) try to level fast and efficient? Damn yes if you ask me. Sewer teams e.g. are definitely the state of the art blue side, because its so much faster than running to and fro between missions. And it works fine without a level 50 buffing everyone too with a big team. And you dont need to know of it, you usually get invites.
I think the sewers are cool and fun and whatever, but not a good start to learn the game features.
But since everyone seems to eager for a time to level to 50, I will expose myself and say I think it should not be below some 75 hours for a first-timer, even if he gets lucky invites to rewarding content, 60 for someone who knows exactly what to do, and I wouldnt even mind if it takes up to half a year of normal casual play. I hear compared to some games that's even still fast. That's a lot of room in between. Now you can bash.

Sure, veterans that want to try out a new idea at level 50 would rather skip the leveling process altogether. But for a lot of people leveling up one character (without kicking themselves in the crotch all the time to slow themselves down) IS THE GAME. Sure you can finish your arcs and do end game content, or "play again" with a new character, but the process of playing one character through the levels is a big part of the game and if it can done too fast the game may seem a lot more pointless for a good deal of players. Especially new ones that didnt see enough to like the game on the way.
Is that the case right now? That was the question.

I just tried to it, trying to be fast once, and 10 minutes after hitting 2, at level 3.2 from street swiping, got indeed invited to a sewer team. We had a level 50 come with us that buffed us all to invincibility. When we stopped 1 hour and 11 minutes after the invite, I was level 10 and four pips. From then on I sucked a bit at trying to be fast, having a hard time finding level-appropriate mobs in the Hollows where I went to, and just did the missions there. Still took only 1:06 more to get to 12, 2:46 total to 12 and one third when it was dinnertime.

Not saying that that is normal or turbo or the time is too fast (while the amount of content you see that way is imo), but
two and a half days for it? Clearly not. That would be too slow indeed. I always make 12 in one afternoon even if I stick with normal content and try to take along all the contacts and badges. And I am sure with sewers and TF it can be done MUCH faster.


Again, its not about myself (or him) but more about potential new players that hit 50 the turbo way, think this was it, and find the game is pointless if max level is reached like that and all content is like what they saw.

Its still not about me or any particular seasoned player who already knows the game.
And its about leveling speed and not difficulty. Higher difficulty also means more XP and thus faster leveling per mission. (and new players likely dont know about the option)

...

I give up.

There's a medium ground in between four days and forever, mind you.

If people wouldnt want to invest even a few weeks into a character, it would be a poor game indeed.

Not everyone that posts on this forum wants to only bend the game for their own personal good.
Hard to understand too, I know.

I am sorry that all of you veterans of course know all the ropes and the content by heart and thus most would rather like their new character concept to be 50 instantly, but new players do not know all that. I didnt find the low level content boring or annoying when I did it the first few times. And I didnt find the content repetitive until it took you like 20 cloned standard missions for one level in that around-level-30 grind phase back then. But that slow stretch in the leveling curve has been fixed years ago, and even with it in place I only wished for more maps or friends that do PvP and more TFs to join (didnt know of LFT channels back then) and not for less content during my leveling.

edit: And I am talking about now. Not "But I've been playing a character for a year and he only made 40". "For a year" is not now. I dont know if its only at the highest level but all I said was I find getting the 2 missing levels on characters I have played for over a year too suddenly went super fast now. In the second week of November 2009 precisely. In case they patched it already yesterday.

But playing at a higher difficulty is a very viable challenge. Plus you can say and be proud of that you are playing at a high difficulty. You can hardly say "Oh, but I turned off XP gaining for about 2 hours every day, and still made it to this level. It was much more of a challenge than your levelling."

About potential new player (oversimplified a bit) : gets a team invite, does the sewers, is taken along on some speed-TFs, makes 50 -> didnt see anything of the game -> didnt learn how to play -> doesnt grasp or like or find some end game content -> finds game is lame -> leaves.

Or people that like the challenge. And find pretending its harder by truning XP off while it could be much easier and everybody else DOES have it easier is not a challenge.

Or people that find advancing a character more fun that having a 50 and/or get bored once they have a 50 of every character concept they ever came up with.

I'm worried about the game. Myself I can have altitis quite fine, and stick with SuperGroup buddies, and I already used no-XP quite some as well.
And this game may not be about leveling, but other games are, and a lot of newcomers might expect it to be and fail to see CoX's true beauty on their zip-through to 50.

I would like such info still easily accessible in the stickies, but a single topic that has the links to each issue's MA changes will totally do I think.

I never said there would be no advantages at all. That sure is fine IF both sides gain the same amount of inf. (and drops)

OF COURSE per individual character. Sheesh.

"There's no proof it will go wrong" is afaik not a widely accepted method to proof everything will be fine.
I never said there provenly ARE differences. Yet there can easily be due to other kinds of critters easily available, different mission structure, other TFs, inf gains for saving people on the street, ... and I have yet to see evidence there are not.

Of course it does, IF both sides (yes, speaking individual CHARACATERS of course, still) gain inf equally.

True that but...

Yes, its per side per character per xp (as that determines when they can slot new stuff) and per time (as that determines how easy inf farming is when you are low). Same as for inf goes for drops too of course!

Again, I dont say there ARE notable differences, but I'd like (the devs) to have clear proof there are not before doing anything possibly game breaking like this. Much better than merging the markets easy-going-ly and afterwards realizing things go wrong now and having to tweak tons of stuff to balance something that was hardly an issue before.

And sadly I dont have time to level two as-representative-as-possible characters to 50 with as-representative-as-possible content (and better once more still with as-inf-gaining-as-possible too) and note down how much inf and what drops they got. Even though with the new levelling speed that shouldnt take more than a week or two anymore.

That is no advantage for villains at all. So now villains can sell at hero prices? Well so can heroes. How does it make villains richer than heroes?

As long as one side gains more Inf per time or per level, it will have an advantage over the other when markets are merged. And do we really want "They outbid us for stuff all the time!" to be added to the "The other side is totally overpowered!" complainings?

I really dont think that one side usually sits on a mountain of recipes that the other side badly needs. Most high in demand IO sets are for very basic things like melee or ranged damage, defense or resistance, stuff that both sides needs just as much. And usually there are lots of people bidding on such things and none selling. So merging the sides surely wont have a big effect like that.