BlackTabby

Originally Posted by EU_Damz

States TF - Broken because you NEED a tank/healer in most cases.

Lady Grey TF - Broken because you need at least somebody who can hold the mitos.

Hollows Trial - Broken because you need 8 people on it, most cases involve you having a person who can recall friend.

Sewers Trial - Broken because it requires teammates to time their attacks together to defeat the pylons.

MORuns - Broken because you most teams only allow players they know.

Now that i've got that out of the way with some VERY simple and quick examples [i can name so many more], lets move onto the trials themselves.

Keyes - broken because you need a tank with high energy resis.

Lam - broken because if you dont get enough of the temps in stage 2 then its very hard to complete it.

Underground - broken because it requires some players to have a clarion.

TPN - broken because of the auto kill feature such as marked for death.

MoM - broken because of the 15 second death penalty.

DD - broken because of the death penalty that buffs MoD.

Now can the people who are always complaining about trials see why people roll their eyes at them? [not you obviously cpt, teamed with you and know that your one of the few who see good/bad in trials].

There are so many examples of tasks ingame that requires a certain AT, a certain powerset, a certain standard of player to complete it already. When was the last time you saw a thread complaining that the STF is too hard because of the insame damage LR does?
When was the last time you saw a thread saying that the Hollows trial should have its requirements lowered or the igneous guarding the pillars removed?
When was the last time you saw a thread saying the LGTF was just stupid because it gave no warning beforehand that you NEED a certain AT/power than can be of use against the hami?


This is a bit of a rant post but its because while yes your obviously welcome to all your opinions, but when people try and show that X isnt as bad as you might feel, those people get instantly shot down with "well it is that bad because i say so".
Earlier in the thread a poster shoots down the DD trial while in the same post saying he's never tried it . . . .
People like myself get fed up of "itrials are broken" posts because while a very small minority will post actual good feedback on how to improve them, majority are just posting anti-trial posts for the sake of it now it seems

If those anti-trialers are so against itrials but want to actually improve them, then make a seperate thread for each trial where people can actually throw out ideas on what needs to be buffed/nerfed.

Originally Posted by DreadShinobi

Nice post. I just want to emphasize that alot of the kind of stuff that is in itrials has also been present in the preincarnate content as well.

I remember when the LRSF came out (when the vindicators were lvl 53 and the FP was lvl 54). It has HARD as heck, and with no IOs back then I'd probably say it was harder than any itrial we currently have. What's the difference between that and now though? Everyone worked super hard to complete that tf. It was hard and eventually nerfed to a reasonable level, but no one complained about it like they do to the itrials. The iTrials are just an easy target, most because the community has made it so, and now even though people are completing these trials left and right the stigma still exists.

Originally Posted by SteelDominator

Rescinded last post I have a vote...Null the Gull! He tracks who you have or haven't defeated AV wise and what buffs you want or don't want, Classic management.