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Is this OT?

Plight

P.S. In a newspaper today I saw this headline

"PLIGHT PWNS BOTTY AND SHANNON IN A 2v1 PvP FEST!1"

odd that

So I said I would post here and here I am.

1st up I'd like to say that A) ST elec powers have pretty long recharges and B) I'm not actually sure if EndMod enhs increase the amount of end you gain when you attack someone (other than the obvious PS). SO i use recred where I have space as the drain in most of the elec powers is good when stacked, but pretty negligable in terms of whether it's worth slotting (I'll test this with Volt Bolt at some point maybe, he has lots of EndMods kicking about that I don't).

CB, LB, CB and HP swap the endmod for recred
swap the slot in hurdle for one in swift, it will make you faster, you jump high with hurdle and CJ anyway
don't get SS, get SJ asap, elec is as melee as the blasters get, you don't really want to be jousting (i also notice you have no vertical travel until 47, this is gonna be a pain either if building from 1-50 or exemping in zone pvp/rated matches)
zapp, not needed generally (although massively useful if you have it), swapthe range for an intred enh, this will let you snipe from out of aggro range with SJ o and be on your target as your snipe executes.
BU, try and get a ToHit buff in here if at all possible
CJ, dont bother slotting it, 1 jump is enough i find (its only height, not speed anyways, this is why i have 3 in swift)
stimulant, great for duos where the other person has aid self, but less useful I find than aid other, however stimulant is more effective for it's slots than aid other.
thunder strike, swap the endred for a recred, rare that you will have end issues with 1 v 1 and u should never have them 1 v >2 (doesnt cost as much as TF if thats what u were thinking)
aid self i would (and do) slot 3 heal 2 recred 1 intred, if you are in a situation where you need 2 intreds your prolly dead anyway and you want this as often as possible
shocking grasp, whilst it does do great DoT, for PvE you really need this to be 2 acc 3 holdur 1 recred (or 2/2/2) to stack with the other holds, the only time I will put dmg in this is when I get enough dmg/mez and acc/dmg HOs (also dont actually use it in my current build as everything else is more important than a limited (melee) hold)
shocking bolt, again i would slot this 2 acc 3 holdur and 1 recred (or 2/2/2), its recharge its far longer than both TC and SG elec holds, but so its base duration.
charged armour, you don't need endred in this power
Acrobatics is the right slotting, but far far too late.

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you REALLY need to get tesla cage asap, slot it as i suggest above for holds and it will stack to just about perma hold an even lvl boss without hasten, not having a hold until 38 is really bad for elec imo (once ur 50 u should have no probs holding 9 targets if they are all minions tbh).
not having short circuit in an elec PvP build is pretty wrong, there are so so many ways you can use SC, PvE wise you won't die on heroic with this power available (imo). slot it 1 acc 3 endmod 2 recred
thunderous blast and zapp are 2 of the 1st things i would take out of this build (and did), whilst TB is amazing in PvE and can definately flatten squishies (and has massive drain and -rec), it isnt a power I would put in a chain every 30 seconds, one stylish kill in arena pvp wont win you much, however in zones, it will. zapp, similar situation, in the time u fire zapp you can use CB and LB for around the same end cost and do similar damage and be moving whilst ur buffs are up.
one thing this build is going to be very bad at (barring nukes), is team dmg, elec has rediculous AoE damage and control with good support and imo offers far more than the other big AoE contender, fire. by not having BL you are speeding up you singe target damage (good) but offering less in terms of large teams. note that soloing will be cake with this build.
Voltaic Sentinel... now in PvE this doenst save many lives, although it does save some end, however i find in PvP it makes a huge difference, stacking the end drain and releasing charged bolts without me having to, and allowing me to PS for my end makes it ideal, the extra dmg it offers is almost essential vs high res/regen builds. In PvE i just let it finish ppl off with a sliver of health, not worth the melee power end costs imo, it also keeps bosses end down.

this build is close to mine, but wont play as well at the lower levels or offer so much control in pvp imo, however it will do more upfront dmg, at a great end cost. if you want to get online and do some missions with me that'd be cool. i have the 50 on deviant and the 44 amost identical build on onion.

Plight

o yeah for sure, it took me the entire time it takes to kill a moss wall to drain it once, with rad debuffs. kraken took about 1 minute

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Some of the US Hami farmers (specific SGs, I forget which ones) use a strategy of end draining Hami to oblivion so he cant do anything, I wonder if this may be a strategy we may want to test at a later raid (assuming we can get enough drainers, if not Im sure plight would be happy to try soloing hami

[/ QUOTE ]I tried, it didnt work

with an end pool of 1000 (im guessing) it will take the equivalent of about 30 short circuits to drain him, add rad and dark debuffs and prolly less, the conning of GMs is weird for end drain, a kraken is pretty easy, but a DE GM in PI is far harder? aaaaaaanyways, even with Hami's recovery (end is usually less that HP afaik for monster thingemies) a few SCs should flatten his recovery, but not for many seconds.

Botty, I'm presuming, PA drop, heal blanket, stroll in, debuff, drain, kill?

WELL UP FOR IT, WE HAVE TEH NUMB0RZ!1

Plight

LAWL etc, if ur not blue ur blatantly a n00b . Do i sense another sig quote a la marius here?

RE the thread replies, if you look back over the reply topics, u can see that I generally apend things to the thread subject, this lets me see whats what when I search the thread and my name, I dont just plough straigh in and read it. and for those few who use flat mode I think it would help.

Grats on 41 ayways me ode mucker

Plight

keeping in relation to the OP, /ice is a poor choice of secondary for zone, duel and team pvp, /dev is a poor choice for teams and not a great one for duels, in zones it has its uses.

acrobatics is great against the ranged and melee holds, but as Kronos says its stunnable. personally i found its greatest use was against the single hold blsaters who dont try to stack (cos some people just dont get it), and //dark mastery scrappers who have but one hold. 13 extra insps is a lot in my book.

jaunt initializers (tp) should be kept to hand for these events imo

imo most /dev blasters are AR/, so even if they do get me on a caltrops/nade patch, what are they going to do : / (lol on this one ok)

chilling embrace, any blaster who PvPs will have at least 2 heavy melees and probably make u poo your pants if you get close enough for CE, at least I would do my best

and with regard to "most enemies are chasing you" or somesuch, I find most enemies are doing anything BUT chasing me, watching a regen scuttle off with no end and SS on is one of the most boring things I can think of, sometimes i wish I had the web nade and caltrops

anyways, post getting a bit repetitive now

Plight

You, Jaz and your bloody autobots!

anyways, just a quick note, please notice how I post to this thread with regard to topic mods, some of you aren't quite making it easy if I view a list of posts rather than a full flat page .

I'll be around again soon I think, work and band is back on now

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break free doesn't give resistance to -jump, a break free doesn't give resistance to slow from caltrops or ice blast or web grenade.

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Run still works just as well for movement though!

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Ice blast has medium range, but it has very high single target damage, with very fast animation times, making it the highest DPS, and it has slow secondary which synergises with devices very well.

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True, but try blasting whilst you're constantly knocked up (so to speak)

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Go against chilling embrace? its movement slow i can still jump out of range.


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See how fast and far you can jump when caught in CE...it aint far - and it's easy to follow - or maybe a TP foe back!
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Go against devices you can't jump, your literally going no where unless you have TP.

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What's the fascination with not being able to jump? There is other velocity!
- if you go /ice, TP is the travel power of choice - though it's always worth having another for easier movement.

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all travel speeds are suppressd by -speed, EXCEPT suer jump, so jumping is the only way to travel fast in all -speed asituations usually.

Plight

the OP didnt say team or duel did they? I think we can agree that ice elec sonic and energy are all good sets.

Plight

I'm away until Thursday now, so see you all when I return.

Plight

You left Sin, you can't take responsibility for one toon and not others, it's in or out, I would have thoght that much was obvious.
All you did to make me unhappy was be argumentative when I asked why I was getting tells concerning SG members, not any one person in particular, the fact you responded to this strikes me as defencive at best, there were several people, and I wasn't there to see what happened initially, so I asked why I was getting tells saying what they said etc.
Showing your PoV and keeping it real, I heard since that this involved replying to friends of ours that you need the badge, when they asked you not to do what you were doing, it seems to me you were on a mission Sin. Keeping it real is not sinking to the lowest common denominator as I said above.
Yes, you left the SG before, and I was thankful when you came back, I thought it meant something to you. Reading the rest of your post seems to me that you thought you could play the one raid without an SG and take all responsibility for your actions, then rejoin afterwards, this isn't the case, our actions follow us for a long time sometimes.
As far as I am concerned Mika. is your toon, to my knowledge you play her and level her more than your girlfriend does, if she is back ingame and wants to stay, I have no problem with that.
As I said about all your toons, there is only one person, and that is you, toons doesn't come into it.
And yes, again, you left the SG, so I kicked you from the team. Afterwards you told me you would be along to collect your other toons, so I saved you the time, or so I thought.
As I said, it was your choice, you left.
I stayed on for a few hours on hide actually, then i logged for less than hour, but more than 2 hours later, for a while to eat, I was on most of the night. I was actually bothered enough to not want to do anything with anyone.
You took your responsibility to leave the SG, so I carried out the next logical step as leader of the SG, I removed all of your alts and changed the only thing which indicates you are an SG member in the global channel. In or out, that's how it is. I don't see, to be honest, that I had any explaining to do, you leave the SG, I make sure it's done and dusted. As far as I can see, I took responsibilty by asking why I was getting tells about our behaviour, everything else kind of went from there.
Yet again, you left, if you leave you take your alts, there are all you.

To be honest Sin I have thought there was something up lately, I hope there isn't, I really do, but if there is and you didn't want this to happen then just say so, and we can sort this out. But CoH aside, I hope everyhitng is ok with you and that Rose is good again.

Plight

P.S. In reply to SHANNON (@Dawnie), there was no kick, he left. If he would like to un-leave then we need to talk about it somewhere ingame.

PLEASE CAN EVERYONE READ THIS AND TAKE IT IN THE CONTEXT IT IS MEANT, TY. So I want to post on this before anything gets blown out of proportion (not thats I expect it to, we are all grown ups and the issue is resolved).

Tonight, whilst heroes were rading RV, I was told by more than one person that members of our SG were galavanting about pwning (which usually is what I like to hear . However, this was supposed to be a community event, so I recalled the team to Kinetik and asked them to wait for instructions from the event organiser.

I was being my usual slow/laggy self and arrived at a pill box (btw 4 had already been taken for heroes, no idea who by, but this spawned the signature AVs), most of the team as far as i could see were standing about but I wasn't really checking as I am no one's baby sitter. I received a few more messages that someone from our group had been killing some AV or another that the main group wanted left alone for now(all this is for ensuring badges were got by all present, not an issue for a team with 3 blasters). So anyways I asked why I was getting tells stating this, no names had been given at this point, and Sin piped up that I was talking to him, and asked why I was getting flack for it and not him. I also asked 'what am I supposed to tell people? Oh that's ok, they can do what they like'. Well this is my point people, whether we like it or not I set this SG up, I set this SG up for the sole reason of making friends and creating a positive environment for those friends to play in, because of this, it is me who gets the flack when someone steps out of line and it doesn't mean I'm anyones boss, it just means people associate the SG name with me, and I am sure that if anyone who has joined recently had a problem, anyone who has been with us for longer would be there to intervene or give advice. In the past people have complained to me and I have stood by our members and told the other party that imho there was no fault and that maybe it came down to PoV, in this case I do not care whether Sin was in the wrong or not, but making other people unhappy is not on, and making it a problem with me or anyone else in the group is not on either. As a good friend told me tonight, we all have our off days, all can be forgiven and forgotten, but I'll let people take from that what they will.

I was also upset by Sin's response when I asked him to wait for everyone to join in/leader to give directions, the reply I got was that 'This is defiant' the next part was something along the lines of you have to do what you want and take what you want as no one will wait for you or play fair. Now tbh I agree to an extent, but I and we I hope have always tried to set a good example, if not the best, and I would much rather stand idly by and wait for Kinetik or any other leader to give me an order at 'their' event, than to join in with the people who choose not to listen/help in a coordinated fashion. If I get no badges I don't care, I can still say I tried to do what the community wanted.

Sin's toons have left the SG now, he has been left in the OotCS global channel as a white name, it is open and all may join. He said he will collect his villains soon, if I don't get on CoV later.

I am gutted to see you go Sinergy X, for 14 months or so you have made this place more fun for me and many good friends of ours, and you have been far more help to people with your knowledge of the game than I have probably been, your choice to leave is one I grudgingly accept. I am sorry if you think I want to be your boss, as it is not the case, maybe we can talk about this some other time. Until then, or until you leave for Rose, adios .

A not so bouncy as usual Plight :'(

yeah so fire, fought fire/nrg the other week, won about 9-1 (the owner is a pretty darn good pvper actually imo), once u get past BFs then ice/ elec/ and sonic/ are really the only valid primaries (AR/ if you have stun powers).

top few imo are gonna be something like

ice energy
elec energy
ice elec
elec elec

epics wise, nothing is worth considering other than force or elec.

Plight

P.S. i laugh at blazing bolt, highest damage snipe means nothing unless its used to set u up for a 1 shot kill

click here and pwn AVs in RV tonight for the badges! w00t

Plight

I'll be along asap after work (about 7 i hope).

SG should put an appearnce in too.

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If there is one site i try to evade at all times in the CoH scene.. Its that crey website (i use the badgetracker site, gives sufficient info on your toon too :P)

[/ QUOTE ]show us how Sin (infact make ur own version! lol)

Plight

So i was just thinking for the SG and CoP trials later o, who do we have etc. So here's my attmpt at a list, please PM me any changes and I will add them all later (use the title SG roster pls).

thinking about this i'm gonna breal this down into some kind of activity list, so the most active go at the top, least active and alts etc go at the bottom.

01 @BindWhore / Plight Trawler 50 elec elec blaster
02 @DreamWeaver / DreamWeaver 50 emp psi defender
03 @Marius / Marius 50 claw regen scrapper / Marius . 50 fire fire tank / marius- 50 nrg elec blaster
04 @Sinergy X/@Encore / Sinergy X 50 ice nrg blaster / MaceX 50 stone nrg tank
05 @Rigormortis / Flash G 50 emp elec defender
06 @eXus Primus / X Zor 46 ill rad controller
07 @Metalshaper / Red Roy 48 ice dev blaster
08 @Lokanna Elianna / Loqanna Elianna 50 peacebringer
09 @Meddler / Volt Bolt 50 elec elec blaster
10 @Omega MCX / Omega MCX 50 mind emp controller
11 @Lotus Assasin / ScreamingSword 25 sonic nrg? blaster
12 @Fire-Beetle / Fire Beetle 40 stone fire tank
13 @Aburame / Araquel 50 peacebringer
14 @Coin / Coin 50 nrg nrg blaster
15 @GL Jaz / GL Jaz 50 rad nrg defender
16 @Composure / Composure 50 FF dark defender
17 @Spork / Texas Thunder 27 elec elec? blaster
18 @Reptile / Elixa 41 emp psi defender
19 @Dark Infinity / Dark Infinity 39 ? kin? controller
20 @Keith / Keef 50 ill emp controller
21 @Question. / Question-Bringer 28 peacebringer
22 @Nuclear Fairy / Quak (forgot and only active on CoV atm iirc)
23 @Dawnie / Little Hawk 29 TA arch? defender
24 @Cambo / Tridento 46 claw inv scrapper
25 @Master Dojo / Shadowstitch 37 dark? dark? scrapper
26 @E-gen / E-gen v2 44 ill? rad? controller
27 @Didier / Flambee 23 fire? fire? tank
28 @Mini / Mini Radz 11 ? ? tank
29 @Blastie / Blastie 18 ? ? blaster
30 @Mike Black / Dark Pride 50 ice ice tank
31 @General Bod / General Bubble 14 FF ? defender
32 @Baccarac / Baccarac 45 emp ? defender

CoV only (soon to be heroes too)

33 @MindFocus (formerly MindFlux of the Femmmes. new account)
34 @Naya
35 @Major Pain
36 @Gregorand
37 @Elyagra
38 @Lost Ninja/@Eschatologist
39 @BlackLotus

others : /

40 @Chili, totally can't remember if they have any toons in the SG atm, hmm.
41 @Grey Lensman 50 ? ? controller, RL family of an SG member, should hopefully return at some point.
42 @Albescent / Adrenalize 3? ? emp controller iirc long term AFK due to RL atm (i always forget if i have this one right though : /)

So there are about half a dozen people who are either on breaks or CoV only atm, the rest are prett much full time and are contributing lots to the hero base. If i missed any let me know, but it looks like we can pull together a reasonable team for the CoP trials later on.

Please note I haven't included alts that aren't 50 or are in other SGs etc. Wew, sets from memory is tough work .

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Id love to be brave enough to think outside the box when it comes to hero building, i seem to pick up fitness as a matter of course.

Saying that i did try out a build with shockwave on the test with no fitness and droped fly in favour of leeping for accrobatics and aid self, along with power sink this seem to work well for pvp didnt get to test it on pve.

Still dont think i would go for this build on the live server as i still do alot of pve and imo the fitness pool is an advantage for this.

[/ QUOTE ]Odd that you find this Wave, the sole reason I have stamina is too allow me do more sustained dmg 1 on 1 in PvP without the need to either rest or sink opponents. In PvE it is far easier to control mobs using holds, and position them with KB for Power Sink usage (2 mobs = 100% end). Also my PvE build had only Charged Armour as a toggle, now I use the leaping toggles too.

Plight

lol indeed Bolti.

I've been messing around on Crey Industries, where I registered my US cliky) and now my EU ones (not finished yet) and I've recreated Plight and made the SG, so you can join it now I thinks1 w00t!

Might be worth it for a laugh, but the only thing I'm really bothered about is reading this thread tbh.

Plight

Oh FS!!!!! Right!
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Sunday 18th July 2006, 10 am British Summer Time

Omega MCX - mind emp controller
Marius . - fire fire tank
plight Trawler - elec elec blaster
Red Roy - ice dev blaster
GL Jaz - rad nrg defender
Aburame - DM SR scrapper
E-gen v2 - ill kin controller
Lt. Keith - ice rad controller

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You bloody happy now!?

I did say if there were any changes to post them yourself

Why do you think i went to bed at 8 45 last night, candle, both ends, burning...

Plight

Right so, i forgot to say, mondo welcome to Elyagra in the Crucified Swords, another budding Villain, I will direct him ot the threads soon, I just didn't get round to it last night (i know, i know, me not banging on about threads, DOOOM etc). Anyways, he's a stalker, ninnja blade/ninjitsu iirc, so will be pwning u in a PvP near u sometime soon .

Plight

agree, i missed hurdle the most, do on all my toons without it tbh, health isnt something you want really, go aid self and take advantage of defiance + massive control of elec.

Plight

Changing this yet again, to compensate for the added emp of MCX, Keith will bring Keef (prest, w00t)(and cos i am a spaz and posted MCX's sets incorrectly)
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Sunday 18th July 2006, 10 am British Summer Time

Omega MCX - ill mind controller
Marius . - fire fire tank
Plight Trawler - elec elec blaster
Red Roy - ice dev blaster
GL Jaz - rad nrg defender
Aburame - DM SR scrapper
E-gen v2 - ill kin controller
Lt. Keith - ice rad controller

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Plight

this isnt only for when they hit 50, this is to level from 1-50 together, so trollers wont hurt, and i did say id build a tank if needed. tbh i think inv/ss would be nice with team buffs, GA has too man drawbacks i think.

onthe note of tanks, that match we had with 13 or so the other night, can u see a stone tank having done ANYTHING at all there?

Plight

Don't know what you're on about

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