Bill Z Bubba

I meant swap ammo. A similar function could be added to other powersets.

Turn it on, KB. Turn it off, KD.

Turn it on, Evasion is a taunt aura. Turn it off, Evasion has no taunt aura.

I don't know if it's possible. I doubt very much that it would ever be done even if it was possible.

Except for claws, yup.

Yup. Shows how little I've been looking at spreadsheets this past year.

Should be base * (1+buffs) Here's the corrections:

Base Damage on KO Blow for a scrapper:
3.56*62.562 = 222.721

With 95% enhancement and double stacked rage = base*(1+2.95) = 879.74795

A crit takes it to 1759.4959

FE will then add another 703.79836 fire damage

Total damage output = 2463.29426


EDIT:

For comparison's sake, here's the brute with 75% fury.
3.56*41.708 = 148.48048

Fury+enhs+ds rage: base*(1+4.05) = 749.826424

With FE: 1049.7569936

Good thing crits are random, right?

I have rebirth on my SR scrapper and it is his only self heal. So there's your counter opinion.

And Arcanaville, the taunt aura thing was a secondary point. If they do make PB a toggle for tanks and not give it to scrappers/brutes, I would find it insulting and unfair.

If they were to go with other ideas thrown about, some of them yours, say adding a slight HP or Regen buff to tank SR and not backtrack that change, I would find it insulting and unfair.

Yes, I get it. Scrapper SR didn't get the evasion taunt aura change because so many existing SR users didn't want it. I remember the discussions in beta.

Since I'm apparently no longer welcome in such things, I don't know if the devs have or haven't made any such changes again which prompts me to start raising hell about it now.

Doesn't rooted work with granite?

Base Damage on KO Blow for a scrapper:
3.56*62.562 = 222.721

With 95% enhancement and double stacked rage = 295% = 657.027

A crit takes it to 1314.054

FE will then add another 525.622 fire damage

Total damage output = 1839.676

I'd say both ST and AoE. Brute Claws Spin is... amazing.

Considering how insane the "enemies run to the next country from scrappers without a taunt aura" situation has become these days, I'd have to call my scrapper brethren believing otherwise quite silly.

I'll buy that, but it doesn't explain why the change shouldn't be backtracked to scrappers/brutes any more than Castle's explanation to me on why scrapper SR didn't even get the taunt aura. "Cuz they don't need it" just doesn't sit well with me.

That's kinda what we do around here.

Here's what will tick me off to no end:

The devs choose to make changes to SR for tanks and don't push those changes back to Scrapper/Brute SR.

It's bad enough that brute SR got the power order change and the taunt aura on evasion without those changes being backtracked to scrapper SR.

Any further such shenanigans will probably cause me to get banned from the forums for good. Course... they might like that.

Here's what I'm actually thinking:

I managed to get my SR scrapper to 50 before ED and the GDN. What I have done with him, even what I do with him now, is irrelevant to how I think SR on tanks will play out.

Have I even played SR recently? Yes. I ran a claws/sr brute to 25 starting in Praetoria. He did just fine. I deleted him only because I knew that he'd be superior to my main character and, quite frankly, I didn't want to see that.

I may be misinterpreting a lot of the SR bashing going on in this thread, and if I am, I apologize, but it seems to me that most of the arguments are being based on truly odd situations:

It appears that many are believing that a tank with SOs should be able to tank the incarnate trials without support from teammates. Or Hami or whatever.

Yes, the lack of permanent mez protection before SOs I agree is a problem. But that's a problem for brutes and scrappers as well. Why should tanks get special treatment? EDIT: And now would be the perfect time to change PB/AD so that they have a breakfree effect since toggle mez protection can only be suppressed these days.

Passives only need 3 slots. 4*4 + 3*3 - 7 = 18 slots needed
Granted, that's still tight but doable. And even if you choose not to slot your passives, which frees up 6 of those 18, you'd still be sitting over the softcap at 22 if you do fully slot the 4 toggles in question. (Well, ok, you'd be a slot short on weave until 23.)

Toggles: 18.5% base (w/3def = 28.86)
Passives: 7.5% (w/1def = 9)
Weave: 5% (w/2def = 7)

Ok... 44.86 def. Total powers used: 3 SR toggles, 3 SR passives, boxing, tough, weave = 9

Total slots used: 3 in each SR toggle, 2 in weave at 21 = 11 slots total.

4 powers and 9 slots to use as I want.

The soloist mentality hasn't killed the game in 7 years. It won't kill it now.

But I repeat myself.

And regardless of my opinion, I have completely given up hope on seeing any kind of solo incarnate path that is any better than the current ridiculous shard path.

Well, he's 11 so yea, I'm soloing at +1/x1 at the moment. I'll bump it higher at 12 when I get DOs.

Bruising wasn't ever needed for tanks. They were never supposed to be damage dealers. Bruising, much like the defender inherent change, was added as a concession to those like you and to those that had the more valid argument that the tank/defender inherents did nothing for the character in question.

Regardless, it does decrease the time it takes to defeat the enemies that have it on them thus speeding up soloing. A happy little side effect to an unnecessary change. Inherent fitness is playing a much larger role than bruising, however, when it comes to being able to tolerate soloing them for me.

Actually, I generally trust the hell right out of Arcanaville's number crunching... thus my confusion.


A fair enough concern. But given the nature of softcapped defense and based on SOs alone, I'm betting that SR tanks are going to outperform every other tank set completely from 22 to 32 and at that point the other sets will catch up and surpass/stay even with SR.

I've never been much of a tank player. Too slow. Damage too low. They just aren't geared for soloing. Or at least... weren't. With bruising and inherent fitness, I'm finding my new DA/SM tank to be not that bad.

I think I want to experience an SR tank. I'll probably go SR/FM.

True, but it doesn't have to be, does it? Aren't we talking about a single equation change so that the scaling dam-res follows the same AT mods for resistance? Granted, bumping it to 0-80% DR sounds excessive.

But even without that, when a scrapper hits 25% HP, it will have 35% DR, right? (with all three passives...) He hits that at base with ~335 HP at level 50.

The tank, on the other hand, will hit the same 35% DR when he's still sitting on ~469 HP.

Has it been untrue to state that SR's scaling dam-res is more beneficial to brutes since it was proliferated to them? Is that not more true with tanks?

It should since SR did. I'd guess it gets placed in Integration.

Nope. I simply lack the desire to be inefficient which is exactly what having to manually push your character into melee range brings about.

It's like whirlwind or flurry. Conceptually cute but a poor choice for melee characters.

Hover scrapping sucks anyway. Easy thing to overlook. Assumed SR numbers are up in the tanker thread on the topic. They'll be over the softcap with SOs and nothing else but Weave.