Bill Z Bubba

I'll remain curious until you find out as well, Werner. My thoughts on the topic mimic yours.

When I realized that the minimal FX setting on some of the armor sets disabled the sound FX associated with the powers, I damn near danced a jig.

If they could add a "Disable Sound FX" toggle for each power separate from the various customization choices that would, indeed, rock a whole hell of a lot.

/golf clap

I dig it, TA.

What I'm seeing doesn't appear to be an animation related pause. Rather, followup is actually giving me the Not Ready sound when strike finishes its animation.

There was no aiming for that actually. All those LotGs are in the build specifically because Red Fortunes don't add any HP or regen. Same goes for the Serendipities.

The 5th slot in stamina is mostly a throwaway for that tiny bit of extra damage while the set itself was again chosen for HP.

So you can see, all that extra accuracy was a side effect and not something I specifically cared about.

EDIT: Does raise a good point though. I'll look through the attacks and see if there's anywhere I can increase damage/recharge while dumping accuracy. But that's for tomorrow. Bed time.

Noted. Will update the master spreadsheet shortly. Many thanks to you both.

And here's the build I just respeced into. Could Not handle eviscerate.

Bring Down The Axe!

Let there be mass bannings and thread purges!

Cleanse the world with fire!

muuhuuhuhuuHHHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

I'm not following.

There's a 5% chance for the proc to fire off.
If it fires off, there's a 0% chance that it will fire off again for the next 10 seconds.

I'd love to leave it at that and say fine, on average it will fire once every 200 seconds just as we would state if the proc was in a toggle.

Actually... why can't we state that? Under no circumstances will you ever have a greater than 5% chance to fire every 10 seconds. The only time it would matter would be if you had MORE than 10 seconds between chances to fire.

The most the proc will ever assist you on average appears to be 2.625% of base damage.

A 100% buff to base damage occurring only once every 200 seconds lasting 5.25 seconds only adds base*.02625 damage.

And that's for scrappers. I'm pretty sure that Castle told me the BU procs also follow the AT modifiers. Meaning that a CFBU on a brute only helps by 2.1% of base.

If that was true, they'd be worthless. EDIT: Nope, still not worthless. Worth the same as 20% chance of 71.8 damage procs.

And yet I get 205 DPS by calculating my DPS using the equations I had laid out, ignoring the 5% chance to miss, and then get 203 timing myself on a pylon.

Something is not what it seems here. But I'm recalculating based in the information so far to see what I get.

EDIT: recalcs done.
Fu, Slash, Focus, Eviscerate with a 5% chance to miss: 198 DPS
Fu, Eviscerate, Focus with a 5% chance to miss: 211 DPS
Fu, Slash, Focus with a 5% chance to miss: 216 DPS

Dumping the CFBUs in Fu and Focus and replacing them with the straight damage purple IO I'm lacking in each for the first chain: 196 DPS
Replacing those with Mako's chance for lethal and javelin chance for toxic: 198 DPS

Well crap.

Doesn't that dictate that I should be using the stated equations (with the corrected 10 second downtime for CFBU) for each proc separately instead of lumping them together?

As it was, I was doing duration/chaintime*total number of procs in chain

It sounds like that was giving out incorrect data due to this enforced downtime.

Actually... it sounds like that enforced downtime needs to be removed. But for accuracy's sake now, it seems that you're telling me I have to do the following for each power:

base
enh*base
fu*base
cfbu1*base
cfbu2*base
global*base

crit chance*sum of above

Total of all above

Calculate DPS

Add on calculated extra damage from cfdrd using 1 equation per cfdrd

EDIT: Verification on CFDRD: Are you stating that there is NO enforced downtime on the CFDRD thus allowing multiple chances to fire within the duration's period, but no selfstacking occurs, only duration extends?

/walks in snacking on the calf of some Hellion's girlfriend

Dr. Mechano, I approve of the cut of your jib. Anarchy and good eats it is then.

Sadly, the names mean nothing. If eviscerate's current animation actually caused intestines to drop to the ground from the bellies of our enemies... I'd hate it a LOT less.

I eat chunks out of my enemies. So when they get ported to the hospital to get fixed, a part of them will always be with me.

(ROUNDUP((Cast/0.132),0)+1)*0.132

Example: (roundup((.83/.132),0+1)*.132
(roundup((6.287878787),0+1)*.132
(7+1)*.132
1.056

Stated cast times from City of Data:
SP: .83
Smite: .97
MG: 2.07

Corrected cast times using arcanatime:
SP: 1.056
Smite: 1.188
MG: 2.244

Actually... I don't calculate a 5% chance to miss. Thus the PM I just sent you, Werner.

My assumption was that I had a lucky streak. Knocking 5% off of 205 would have me at 194.75 DPS which my 203 DPS surpassed. Either I was really lucky on the procs, or something else is amiss.

The PM I just sent Werner was wondering if the equations I'm using for the chances for dam-res debuffs and chances for buildup are accurate.

Right now I'm using the following:

CFBU: 1 - .95^(chances in 5.25 secs)
This total is multipled by base damage and calculated in prior to crits just like any other damage enhancement

CFDRD: 1 + (1 - .8^(chances in 10.25sec) * .2)
This total is multiplied by the total calculated DPS after all other buffs are dealt with.

EDIT: I got some info, but now I'm wondering if those are correct.

The CFDRD does not self stack. In my case, I have two separate CFDRDs that would stack. The CFBUs, as far as I know, would not only stack with each other but self stack as well.

Attempting to get verification on that now.

pfft. pocket change.


for other people.

Why the buildup proc in focus versus the toxic damage proc:
The current build on paper does 205 DPS. Against a pylon last night, I hit 203.
If I remove the CFBU in focus and replace it with the PvP Toxic Proc puts me on paper at... 205 DPS. heh. No change at all. But the decimation cfbu is vastly cheaper.

The chance for self heal isn't worth slotting. 10% chance of a 5% heal. I don't know if that's base HP or current HP, but we'll go with current. In my chain it would fire off on average once every 69 seconds for 93 HP. That works out to less than 1.5hp/sec when I'm already regening at 28. If it works off of base AT HP, it would be less than 1hp/sec. Damage is bettah! (Maybe, read on.)

I've only got 300mil inf left on Bill, but I'll look into the PvP IOs. Probably wouldn't take too much to get enough for 3 of them. More HP I'll always take.

I'm not sure about the panacea unique. That seems interesting. Pondering it, stacking that on top of the entropic chaos chance for self heal might be benficial enough to notice. And if I'm going to go for broke on this build, I might as well grab the +resist and +def uniques as well.

Stuff to ponder. Thanks much.

I'm having zero crashing or lag or anything outside normal performance issues, but I will verify that the CHV app is using just over a GB memory on my 2GB memory rig.

Followup after playing with the new build for a while:

1: I miss shockwave's mitigation.

2: I love eviscerate's damage, the wide cone, the extra chance to crit, pushing me past the 200 DPS barrier, how spawns melt when doing my followup, eviscerate, spin, repeat attack chain, how bosses melt from followup, slash, focus, eviscerate, repeat...

And yet I still hate the animation so much that I want to dump eviscerate from the build already.

Madness. Just plain old madness.

Saw another tweak. I replaced the chance for negative damage in FU with a basic lvl 50 damage IO. DPS went up by 1 point. No loss of anything useful by going from 5 Makos to 4.

And there's something else.

On each of slash, focus, eviscerate, if I drop the damage/recharge purple and replace with the straight damage purple, I get another 5 DPS. Still have enough recharge for the chain mentioned earlier.

On paper I'm up to 210 DPS but the pylon run I did at lunch didn't seem to agree. However, I might have just been unlucky on the procs.

Dropping Physical Perfection and replacing it with Assault bumps me up to 216 DPS.

EDIT: Got back home.. only change I made to the build I posted up above so far was replacing the neg energy proc on FU with a SO damage enh.

Got 8:29 on a pylon. That's 203 DPS.

That's the first time I've ever topped 200 DPS with Bill. (Ignoring outside buffs, of course.)