Bill Z Bubba

That would certainly be a better option that starting a new thread every other week with the same complaint and the same refusal to change anything about his build, playstyle, etc.

I did something about my distaste for the AT with a damage dealing primary dishing out lousy damage. I deleted it and play something else.

I do find defenders and ma/fa scrappers painful. I don't play them. Defenders are a team based AT with a buff/debuff primary, designed with that role in mind. If you deviate from the role, you have to accept the consequences. My refusal to use the forms on kheldians has consequences. For my warshade, he still performs quite well. He still exists. The PB doesn't, so was deleted.

I have been told repeatedly to stop asking for PBs to get buffed. Those doing so refuse to accept that the AT is a damage dealing AT just as the OP refuses to accept that he is playing a support AT with a build not designed to overcome the consequences of attempting to play a support AT as a damage dealing AT.

The OP could, as I recently did, read an argument against his desire that finally sways him against the course of action he's pursuing, just as I did. I now fully understand and accept why TFs should not be allowed to start by a lone player. I won't be asking for it again, regardless of the fact that I find the reasoning against it appalling.

No, I don't think you wasted your time at all with your post. Your point certainly got through.

Unfortunately, only *some* of us can admit when we're wrong when a proper argument shows us the truth of a situation even if we disagree with that truth.

The OP disagrees with the low damage scaler for defenders and the equations used in the recharge to damage to end ratios. That's fine.

His refusal to adapt to those values to get what he wants from his powerset choices, however, is irrational. He can either build to solo or delete the character and move on.

Nice try, by the way. I will admit that "a breeze" was badly worded. Doable would have been a better term. An MA/FA scrapper will tear through content at base difficulty without breaking a sweat. It still wouldn't be any fun for me to play. With the build I have in mids for this ff/ene defender, it would also be easy, because this GAME is easy, to solo at base diff. Doable even with the diff cranked up.

This doesn't mean that I would find it *FUN.* Even my human-only PB soloed at higher than base diff. It wasn't fun either.

Wrong. YOU have a problem with the damage output YOUR defender has with the build YOU have given it.

We have already taught you how to build for soloing. You ignored that advice and are now back whining about the exact same issue.

Don't have assault? That's a 18.75% damage buff that you are ignoring. Do you have every attack slotted for ED capped damage? I doubt it. Do you have every attack you could take by your level so that you have a solid attack chain? I doubt it.

The problem is YOU. It is YOUR repeated refusal to accept that YOU are the issue.

And the problem is YOU, YOUR character, YOUR build, YOUR tactics, YOUR insp usage.

YOU are your own problem.

Agreed. Now MA needs to be ported to brutes.

And that is why, just as with claws on brutes, I see zero issues with a straight port of SS to scrappers.

Let's not forget all those whining that a straight port of claws would be overpowered on brutes. Not only did brutes get claws... they got a BUFFED version of it.

Those stating SS would be OP on scrappers haven't done the math.

74.375% damage buff if fully saturated versus 125% for 20 seconds.

Even if you tweak for averaging, say.. 6 foes for AAO and 3 recharges in FE, you get 46.875% for AAO versus 27% average buff over time for FE and that's only for fire damage. Drops closer to 11% for other damage types.

AAO is very nice. I'm not saying that shield charge isn't the other big draw for shields, it is, but AAO is a freaking HUGE damage buff.


Math for above: AAO: 12.5 for first enemy, 6.875 for each after up to 10
FE: 180 base recharge; 125% for fire for 20 seconds; 100% for other damage for 10 seconds; recharge with 3 enhs = 92.3 seconds

My fm/sd scrapper uses that shield. Both primary and secondary are tinted dark green/black. Looks awesome.

Awesome. Busted a gut.

I haven't given up hope on redraw removal. The fact that BAB hit a wall with shields does suck, yes, but the fact that he's been working the issue and trying to find a solution gives me hope.

Ummm.... no.

You really did it? Is it as painful as I think it would be?

I concur. SR only really sucks for 21 levels. FA sucks all the time.

My new em/inv brute was created specifically to utilize GR, swap sides, and become my primary "tank." Between darkest night, invincibility and taunt, aggro control won't be an issue. After properly IOing out, survival won't be an issue. Whirling hands and Dark Obliteration won't be awesome levels of aoe, but they'll work.

If my dm/wp speced for solo work can be the main tank on the LRSF, I find it very hard to believe that an em/inv speced specifically for tanking is going to have any problems at all.

As for it being harder to find teams villain side... yea, probably.

I need more info. Ok.. not need. Want more info. I honestly want to be told exactly what is changing knowing fully well that I'll have to go study up to understand it all.

A little extra memory used doesn't cause a 50% FPS drop when turning the camera toward a certain area on a C2D proc at 2.7 with 2GB DDR2 and a g92 8800gts with XP on a rig that has nothing but OS, drivers and games.

Think so. I'm far more concerned with their linked aggro and whether I can get around it.