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One of my characters yesterday went from level 9 to 16 within the span of a single AE mission. Total time spent was around 30 minutes.

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This is not unheard of in non-AE content... with a full team on a higher difficulty, it is possible to level fairly quick outside of AE, so I would say that the XP rate is about the same.

Where AE DOES break this IMO is that it totally eliminates the time sinks of traveling; needing to report back to a contact etc. Instead of having to run across the Hollows or Steel Canyon back to your contact to get the next mission (or even just travel to the next mission), you run all of 10 feet to reset the arc and play it again.

I think this is something the developers did not take into consideration.

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yeah cuz it is super fun running across the map -

BUN BUN BUN....BUNEARY

or the 10000000 sites that offer pay pls in wow...

I wrote a paper about teleporting under the map but it was in lipstick and orange crayon

Monday July 06, 2009, 9:09 PM

they posted it a day ago - I know people said he was a prof before but this one has pics and urvything.

The notion that people are pling 7 or 9 archtypes and then quitting the game is silly. If that is infact the case, then it's not really money they would have counted on to begin with. There has to be a goal. Getting to 50 for the sake of saying I have a 50 XXX is silly.

To the notion that I13 ruined PVP. Well, yes to a lot of us it did and a lot did leave. A lot did stay too. Some adpapted and contiune on. The zones on some servers are still very healthy (try going in to RV on freedom) - Duels still happen in arean. Saying "from what I hear pvp was ruined an you all left" is not a valid argument. That aside PLing is really REALLY not affecting anyone. It does not change the game for you, or anyone who does not like it. Your missions are still the same, your new content is there to play. With Ae people can create all sorts fo Arcs for Pve happiness.

I don't mean to break it down to us versus them but in the grand scheme of things what does it hurt? You say people burn out on the game faster, so beit, do you think they would stay around an extra year to find out it's all a nemisis plot? Probably not - they would call lame and leave for another game they can rack up pl's on. Having a ridgid view of how everyone else should behave and how gameplay should be goverened only allows people who think the same in. What keeps me interested is new characters, pvp builds, building for recharge or dmg or max HP. What are the best combinatnions for teams, coming up with strategies...things other people could care less about. But that is what keeps me paying 14.99 - for a longer time than I care to admit.

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Incredibly true AF, incredibly true. We vote with our wallets. What does get me down though is that most people will simply say "I pay for this game, so I get to do what I want" without acknowledging they're being at least as selfish as those people who are upset over the farming and power leveling being so rampant. We are all affected, we are all affecting, and we're all selfish.

While this is just a game for some, for others (i.e. Devs) it's a source of livelihood, so essentially the ones who stand to lose the most out of these flame-wars, are the Devs... gamers can simply move on to another game, and the amount of time a gamer invests in learning a new game is nothing compared to a Dev that has to find or learn a new job.

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I think you fail to understand what drives most pling. PVP. People want to pvp at SC, WB and RV levels. They may have 4-5 50's but say with dom changes not have a dom that is great in duels or zone or arena. From a perspective of job security having people WANT new toons for PVP is a good thing. It keeps them paying their 14.99 a month. Lets be honest. There is not a lot of high level content in COH. You talk to WOW people and they will say the game begins at 70. I mean sure there are RSF or LGTF but those are few and far between once you have done them.

For a lot of us - PVP is the end game rewards. High level team arena, mid to high level zone fights, 1v1, 2v2, 3v3 dueling tournaments. There are not a lot of us who want to roam the sewers...again..or get the fortune teller, again...or do the preatorian arc, again...so we can compete and enjoy the high level pvp that attracts us.

what does it matter? As a business model, as a money making venture...(which what the game is) outside of the eula - what does it matter?

With level pacting one person can never log in and get a 50..boom. It might take a while but still, you can have one person who never did ANY content have a 50 - ae farm or not.

It's not in the PTB's best interest to remove people from the game. People will always power level. So what. Let them. It does not really affect you if you don't want to do it.

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The question is why is the OP or others concerned at all. Avoid the AE do the PVE content. Why are you level pacted? The game encompasses all kinds of players - some want full immersion, finely crafted ae missions with amazing content and lots of lols all around. Some want to lessen the grind of going to PI and doing battle maiden over and over again. Find the people like you and play with them. Don't accept random ae invites, don't pad if asked.

If you don't want to go from 9-16 in one AE arc, that's fine but are you arbitrarily saying everyone should be like you? Before AE, and before I ever heard the word PL I went from 1-20 just doing streets in atlas and gc then getting on a few mishes. I know people who will just fight streets to 14 then get on a posi and do all the tf commander arcs and level to 50 doing it.

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there ...now it is terrible ;P

They wanted the pvers to come and since they all have fly and hover made it uber in zone pvp. The result? All the pvp blasters took hover and fly and people made peace bringers lol

With no nvidia update, just the update to coh my friends previoulsy stable nvidia driver/win 7 system now gets the "driver not responding". I reinstalled to 7100 rc and installed the 186 drivers and coh would start, i could hear it but the screen was black. I backed down to the 185 drivers and coh would start, I could see it and could log in and select a toon but it would not load in. I am going to back down again to previous version today when I get home.

well thanks for the nvidia driver tip that worked i can see the screen - but now I cannot seem to connect. I get the log in screen can pick a toon but it never seems to load in . The load in screen sits there for a few mins then kicks me back out to the log in screen and if I try to log in it tells me that account is already logged in - tried it on freedom and on triupmh so I don't think it is server lag??

from what I understand coh does not gain too much from sli anyways. I ran a single 260 gtx (192 version) @ 1920x1080 with all the eye candy turned on and it ran buttah smoof. Windowed mode on my i7 I could run 4 at the same time.

Hi - I just had to reinstall by win7 since I was on beta to rc version. I was running sli 206 gtx's before I reinstalled and it worked no problem but now when I launch after a fresh install I nothing but black screen. I can hear the music, the clicky sounds for typing in user name etc...I can see when it launches it sets my resolution to low but I see no graphics just a black screen. Is there a way to force the executable to windowed mode or ??? help!

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In regards to your Sig...


Test PvP was not and is not for tools to go and feel cool. it is an opportunity for PvPrs from all servers to square off and see whos best in CoX. Have you ever even participated in test PvP, and i mean Tourneys and ladder matches? If not, then i wouldnt be so quick to pass judgement, b/c there were/are alot of elite players there.

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yes..yes I have.

uhh it's a quote from someone who actually said that - it's meant to be sarcastic.

How funny a pver is complaining that pvp is different and they don't like it ! - they changed pvp for the pvers.

uhh the sitting ducks you signed up were not the virtue sitting ducks.

There was no travel supression, no heal decay, no 40% base resistence for most arch types, there was no diminishing returns -

Kins were actually useful, emps too. (could have been pain doms as well but they came out along with the big pvp nerf bat).

Alpha was it really i12 rules in play or just no dr no ts no heal decay....I mean was there still base res of 40% for squishy etc...