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You raise a valid point about general leveling LM, but the OP is asking about tank mages, that's generally a lvl 50. Pimped in some way or another.
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Quote:So you would like to see? Roll a character on Guardian and I will gladly show you. And if someone wants to bring a crab, I will gladly show them up. Well, against things without mez anyway.
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Ok now that I'm on my PC and not my phone, let me post my build for my Dark/Ice/Soul...
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and Dark/Ice/Dark...
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My recommendation is some sort of corr. My tankmage of choice is my dark/ice defender but I know most other people prefer corrs for higher damage(aka fire blast). I chose defender over corr for the ridiculous survival numbers but now that I have tier four radial reactive interface I put brutes/scrappers/blasters to shame aoe damage wise and often outtank tanks. But for the general player who hasn't been tankfending for years, I say go fire/dark/dark or fire/dark/soul. Dark for perma soul drain or soul for softcap with power boost for taking alpha without toggle. If you do go soul note that the recharge for soul drain is twice as long as from dark and less targets, and I consider it to be completely skippable.
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I always found that SoW is best used when you need added recovery for a battle. For example the only thing that really bothers my wp/ss tank on the lgtf is Famine's -recovery and subsequent toggle drop. In siutations like that you are left a lot less vulnerable. Then you just watch for the end crash after the fight is well over.
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Slightly revised version with a little better end, and more dam/acc in midnight grasp.
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So after a lot of thought I am thinking that a Dark/Fire/Pyre brute may be what I'm looking for. Would appreciate it if I could get some feedback on this build.
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Dechs I have tried and deleted so many MFing ws'd it's not funny. Read your guide a few times too. Sounds fun, is kinda fun, isn't as fun as my scrapper.
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I have a elec/psi/ice dom and am very aware of the awesomeness of /ice as an epic. But i would like to steer clear of that for variety's sake. How is soul mastery and fire mastery for doms? I'm pretty sure ice is better overall, but i want the fireball/dark oblit attack feel. Anyone played an earth/fire/soul?
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Ok forumites and mids masters I have a challenge for you. I want a toon that can do tons of aoe damage and decent survival, that can come close to or better than my fire/shield/pyre scrapper(aptly named Burn Smash Reapeat.)
Leveling is a non-issue as I will just powerlevel in a day or so. Money is also mostly a non-issue as I have toons I could strip that I hardly play.
I want out of the box damage, not something I need to ramp up to or only has high damage after a few seconds of debuffing. Mez protect would be a nice plus but not necessary. I mostly lead speed level 50 task forces to give you an idea of what I need it to do.
So please suggest your favorite aoe monster maxd out. Builds are appreciated.
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Fire/shield/pyre should be doing about the same aoe if not more and offers way more in the area of single target. It is really my most devastating toon.
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They'll both play about the same really. I would say the defender will level in teams easier while the corr will level in solo/small teams easier. But if you overall idea is for a final io'd, incarnated out lvl 50 build, the Corr will probably give you the best mileage. But I'd go DP over AR, AR just feels clunky to me.
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Blaze you suck at posting builds. Just do the datachunk, your link is broken and i'm not manually putting that into mids lol.
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Ok then that makes sense bc most of the lowbies hit with envelope get blowed up fast so I noticed the -kd from nade on the tougher foes.
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Really? Bc when I immob them it really does keep the kb reduced. Maybe it is just perception but it seems to get the job done.
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Just so you all know it has 3 damage procs, a posi' dam/rech and the -rech proc. I did have the kd proc as well but I figured with the -kb I am spamming from web envelope(over the mu immob) and webnade the kd would be kinda pointless.
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it's already got the max allowable damage procs in it. I figured -rech couldn't hurt for those longer fights.
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The toon in question here is an IO'd and Proc'd out Bots/Traps/Mace. Resistance is futile.
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I have caltrops slotted with 4 damage procs and a -rech proc. Can someone plz confirm for me if it procs w/ every tick of damage, once every 10 seconds, or just when I throw them down.
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I think I am almost starting to sound like dechs kaison I have advocated this combo so many times but except for soloing av's I think an elec/psi/ice dom can fill just about any role. Solo or teamed, I can neutralize any mob with one shot. Whole mob confused? Check. Whole mob slept and reslept even with two "rain powers" from the app? Check. Whole mob held? Check. Oh what's that? They are tightly knit enough to cap regen?(which now with tier 4 alpha only takes six mobs to get 133hp/second) capped hp? Check. Soft-capped sm/lethal? Check. Tons of aoe, and complete end drain to anything that manages to live thru the massive debuff and damage barrage of sleet and ice storm for more than about 3 seconds. Oh yeah and psw. And all of these effects are as helpful on a team as they are soloing, even on 4/8. So it may not offer buffs to keep the team alive but if you want to neuter a problem mob, there isn't anything better.
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I have not looked at your build at all, but it is in my opinion that the sets have great synergy in theory. I haven't actually played this particular combo, but have played both sets individually. It really does seem to have it all tho, you have all the -tohit to make up for the lack of defense in /elec(which you build for, which makes the -tohit even better), and Lightning Reflexes just works awesomely with shortening those long recharging powers that are a staple of Dark Melee, such as Soul Drain. Now throw in Shadow Meld and you're looking at a toon who has great resistances, doesn't need a travel power(w/ NR/BR/Raptor pack all boosted from Lightning Reflexes), can perma Energize to boost regen and cut end usage down, and also soft cap their own defenses(even before the tohit debuffs) every mob. I will look at your build later, but this combo is not just viable, it's an underused monster.
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Heh yeah I have Laevateinn to do my math for me. She always tells me I should test it myself, but she's Asian, her math always beats mine. :P Thanks for all your help guys. I'm going to have to start farming hardcore again to get my funds a lil more in order.
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So much for a later date...I decided to tweak it a little using some suggestions from the boards here.
I upped my HP a bit by dropping some procs and changed the 3 golgi in Aid Self to 3 Numina's for the +HP as well as adding in 2 Steadfast in tough for almost 2 more points of Resistance to SM/Lethal. IDK What it ends up being w/ Cardiac, but slotting 3 Titanium Coating's over my original slotting of just the +3 defense procs only nets a 5% increase, while adding 3 slots. So I opted to go for more HP in 3 slots instead of more HP and more Res in 4 slots. Also switched the +Regen proc out of Health in favor of a third miracle, lowered my regen by about 2 or 3 hp/second, but gave me more HP which I think means more to a Defense build than Regen(since I've got Hibernate and Aid Self as backup, and they are just that, backup. I don't intend to use Aid Self much except for maybe after a big fight that leads up to another big fight.)
I took Water Spout for a couple reasons. One it is a fifth purple that is more useful than slotting AA in Boxing. Also I didn't want to take Spirit Shark because my attack chain is fine without adding in a power that will require redraw. Water Spout will mainly be for AV fights and such. Summon and forget, get back to slashing.
I was able to keep Perma-Hasten by only adding one slot of recharge once I took Musc. over Spirit. Gotta love Quickness. Musc. also seems to bode well for the overall build. The added recovery is minor but useful, the damage will be good of course, but I had missed the fact that it added run speed. That makes me feel even better about skipping a travel.
Also a comment about end usage to Strato (Hey Buddy!), my build has Ninja Run turned on because most likely it will be on most of the time. But, that isn't to say that if I am in a particularly long fight I can't just turn it off for a few seconds or whatever.
So...new build. Is this better?
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