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Quote:More specifically, people waiting for Leagueville can always decide to leave for Solotown, but the reverse is never true. So there is an asymmetry in terms of which activity can steal players from the other that is independent of preference.Originally Posted by Shagster
Train B on average leaves about 1 minute and 49 seconds after Train A throughout the daily schedule?
(i.e. there's a narrower window of "time after Train A but before Train B" than there is of "after Train B but before Train A")
Which I assume leads to the metaphor that the Train to Solotown is always departing, while the train to Leagueville often leaves you waiting at the station a while. -
Quote:Its meaningful if you intend to communicate with the people who can change it, as opposed to the people who can't. If your assertion is the devs are deliberately trying to beat the players, and they aren't, they cannot by definition solve your problem by changing their intent. They cannot solve the problem you are stating exists.Originally Posted by Snow Globe
The distinction between the two at this point is imperceptible to the point of being meaningless.
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Quote:Actually, I think disagreeable and grumpy would make him the Harlan Ellison of CoH. Being disagreeable and grumpy and scary looking would make him the Alan Moore of CoH.Originally Posted by Schismatrix
So you're saying he's the Frank Miller of CoH?
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Quote:Thanks for that. I thought about doing it, but my fingers were already tired, and it occurred to me that ordering an 80s movie list by quality was perhaps missing the point. For example, Cobra and Red Sonja may have very low critical scores, but are 100% pure 80s Velveeta.Originally Posted by TrueGentleman
Watching all those unseen movies of the 1980-1995 vintage sounds like only the kind of wacky activity one would do after losing a bet (which, incidentally, was a staple of mediocre comedies from that era). Sorting by some kind of quality consensus would make this project less Herculean, so here's the same list sorted in descending order by the aggregate score on Rotten Tomatoes, a site that's rather more lenient but otherwise more comprehensive than its rivals.
Wait, the Sword and the Sorcerer has an 80% on RT? I suggested the movie in the first place and I still don't believe it. -
Quote:Its just the ones I could find a confirmation as seen or unseen. It does not include movies that might have been skipped over by Frietag. I figured this way people could resubmit them and get an answer from Frietag.Originally Posted by Red_Gren
Is this every 80s & early 90s movie confirmed not seen by Freitag?
As to culling the thread for every single movie without a notation, gotta leave something for someone else to do. If I posted any more numbers or lists, the mods would probably move this thread to the scrapper forum. -
Quote:They do not. In CoV beta, they did. At the last minute (as in: all the beta builds had it, the live build didn't) those two types were yanked.Originally Posted by Doomguide
Just double checking in case it got changed on me when I wasn't looking but far as I am aware the passive scaling resistances of SR do not work against toxic or psionic damage.
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Quote:Its not that simple. Even in the hypothetical case where people liked the trials more than the solo path, there is still the unavoidable situation where the solo path acts to break up the critical mass of players queuing to do a trial (and by queuing I mean waiting for one, in or out of the turnstile).Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Secondly, if most people liked Trials, then there wouldn't be a reason for the development team to worry about introducing a solo path of Incarnate progression. Surely with so many people enjoying Trials, they'd just continue to run Trials and the critical mass would be maintained. Yet the development team have expressed concerns that enabling solo progress might kill raid-goer numbers, and thus the solo path would have to be significantly less rewarding. There has to be something to it.
Here's a riddle. A man has two girlfriends, one that lives in town A, and the other that lives in town B. He goes to the train station every weekend and catches the next train that is heading for either town. Even though he arrives at the train station at random times each weekend, and trains leave for town A and town B every twenty minutes, he finds he is seeing one girlfriend ten times more often than the other. If he does in fact arrive at the train station at genuinely random times, how is it possible he isn't going to each town about fifty percent of the time? -
Quote:I wouldn't go quite that far. I think it is true that the devs own statements demonstrate conclusively that they believe their job as end game designers is to pit themselves against the playerbase, but I think it is less that they are deliberately attempting to annihilate weaker players and more attempting to be a credible threat to the stronger ones. Unfortunately, those two are entangled objectives.Originally Posted by Snow Globe
The developers of the Incarnate Trials are arch-typical Killer GMs.
The problem is that for the end game trials, "the playerbase" is being represented by its highest performers. And this is not an obviously dumb notion. The whole point of having an end game was to extend the game beyond the confines of standard difficulty. If it wasn't significantly more difficult, it would be pointless because it wouldn't be something beyond the standard game. I'm sure there are people who would be fine if the devs did nothing but continue to add to the standard game, but that's neither here nor there.
I think the problem is more that they take that objective to excess moreso than they deliberately set out to try to "beat" the players. I think they want us to win, but the issue is that "we" win when "we" construct leagues that beat the trials. "We" doesn't mean "me" or "you" specifically. That causes friction in a playerbase used to "we" meaning "almost all of us" when it comes to content. -
Quote:It did not. High resistance to immobilize was one of the suggestions for eliminating the problem, but Castle decided to eliminate the lack of protection instead. Also, I'm pretty sure back then the mez resistance cap was a lot lower than it is now: the game still reflected a fundamental misunderstanding of mez resistance dating back to launch that wasn't really changed until after Willpower launched.Originally Posted by Leo_G
When Willpower was first being tested, I was all for having a hole in its mez protection primarily because it was unique and would require *thinking* to overcome (and I would have sworn the set had high 'resistance' to every mez on top of premiere 'protection' as well, making any mezzes last a shorter time).
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Quote:Depends on the assumptions. If the assumption is an SO slotting situation, I'd compute their end cost based on their uptime with SOs. But if the assumption is comparing base endurance cost in builds that can make that power perma, I would calculate based on 100% uptime. You don't have to factor in end reduce slotting in that situation if you are only comparing relative numbers, and everyone can slot endurance reduction.Originally Posted by Rangle M. Down
How would you include a value for Dull Pain? Would you want to see the same for Earth's Embrace?
Its iffy on Earth's Embrace within Granite. Its a case of nothing being right there, and so I( would just pick a reasonable assumption and state it with the calculation.
I would just list them separately, so as to reinforce the fact that you can't compare endurance burn for those sets vs endurance burn for the other sets, because those sets were designed with deliberate ways to offset their own endurance costs. Willpower in particular only has quick recovery because it was originally envisioned as an all-passive set with no end cost. When the devs decided to move away from that, they changed some of the powers into toggles and clicks, increased their end cost, and commensurately made those powers stronger (in general, toggles and clicks tend to be stronger than passive powers). Then they added quick recovery to counterbalance the end costs.Quote:I wasn't sure how to account for Willpower, Electric, Energy, and Fiery Aura in the manner you described. Even Ice has a great end recovery tool in Energy Absorption. (speaking of Ice Armor, it seems I didn't include it in the spreadsheet.. sigh) While the aforementioned sets do have end recovery tools this was more about what the endurance "usage" each set has, not the recovery each of those particular sets can achieve on their own.
Incidentally, that's why Willpower is so strong. Castle was a much more conservative designer than Willpower reflects, but when the all-passive set was converted to toggles, it got stronger than Castle's original baseline design. -
Quote:The problem with this complaint is that its a severe distortion of the truth. The simple fact is you can't deal damage if you're dead, so there's no such thing as being in a situation that kills everyone but you're doing less damage.Originally Posted by Blue_Centurion
I read this above -"The main advantage of Tankers that they trade damage for, survivability, is all too often trivialized in newer content by 'cheating' mechanics. Situations are created that are lethal to all ATs, even Tankers, yet Tankers continue to deal less damage even when they're in just as much danger. I refer to unresisted damage, attacks and hazards that deal a HP percentage and the like. A Tanker can no more shrug off a Battle Maiden Sword Bomb than a Scrapper can, but the Scrapper will be outputting more damage regardless."
If Scrappers are outdamaging Tankers, its because the Scrappers are actually alive. And if the Scrappers are alive, the Tankers are probably alive also. The argument that the Tanker has more damage mitigation than required in many situations is hazy, but the argument that the tanker's damage mitigation is irrelevant in other situations isn't logical.
Most of the situations where there is no survivability difference between scrappers and tankers are limited metagaming situations, not genuine combat. Don't stand here, or you die. Metagames are usually directed at the player, not the character, and aren't intended to obey the same balance metrics as combat ones. -
So, given there's a ton of movies in here and its getting hard to avoid posting duplicates, here's a list of every movie Frietag confirms having not seen in this thread, sorted in alphabetical order:
11 Minutes Ago
48 Hours
A Boy and His Dog
A Clockwork Orange
A Few Good Men
A Goofy Movie
A Nightmare on Elm Street
A View to a Kill
Absence of Malice
Adventures in Babysitting
Airplane!
Aladdin
American Werewolf in London
An Extremely Goofy Movie
Apocalypse Now
Arena
Bachelor Party
Back to School
Back to the Future
Back to the Future II
Back to the Future III
Beauty and the Beast
Beetlejuice
Better off Dead
Beverly Hills Cop
Big
Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure
Black Dynamite
Blazing Saddles
Blind Fury
Brain Dead
Breakfast Club
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
Caddyshack
Carrie
Casino
Caveman
Chaos Theory
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Chinatown
Christine
Clash of the Titans
Close Encounters of the Third Kind
Clue
Cobra
Coming to America
Cujo
D.C. Cab
Dead Alive
Dead Heat
Dead Poets Society
Demonic Toys
Django
Doctor Detroit
Dodgeball
Dolemite
Dollman
Dollman vs Demonic Toys
Drive
Drop Dead Fred
Duck Soup
Edward Scissorhands
Enemy Mine
Eraserhead
Evil Dead 2: Dead by Dawn
Excalibur
Fargo
Fast Times at Ridgemont High
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
Ferris Bueller's Day Off
Firestarter
Forrest Gump
Friday the 13th
Fright Night
From Dusk Till Dawn
Funny Farm
Galaxy Quest
Gamers
Ghost
Godzilla: Final Wars
Goodfellas
Goonies
Hackers
Halloween 3: Season of the Witch
Heartbreak Ridge
Heat
Heathers
Hellraiser
Hook
Howard the Duck
IP Man
IP Man 2
It Came from Hollywood
ItÂ’s a Mad Mad Mad Mad World
Jaws
Jaws 2
Johnny Dangerously
Judgment at Nuremberg
Jumanji
Kibakichi
Killer Klowns From Outer Space
Krull
Kung Fu Dunk
Kung Fu From Beyond the Grave
LA Confidential
Ladyhawke
Lawnmower Man
Legend
Liar Liar
Lifeforce
Little Big Soldier
Little Shop of Horrors
Maniac Cop
Mortal Kombat
Murder by Death
My Future Boyfriend
My Name is Nobody
Mystery Men
Naked Lunch
Night of the Comet
Night Shift
Nothing but Trouble
One Crazy Summer
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
Outsourced
Pet Sematary
Pink Floyd the Wall
Platoon
Poltergeist
Porky's
Pretty in Pink
Private Benjamin
Project X
Psycho
Puppet Master series
Puppetmaster vs Demonic Toys
Purple Rain
Raising Arizona
Rawhead Rex
Red Dawn
Red Sonja
Remo Willaims: The Adventure Begins
Riki-Oh: the Story of Ricky
Risky Business
Robin Hood: Men in Tights
Robot Jox
Robot Jox 2: Robot Wars
Romancing the Stone
Schindler's List
Seven
Shark Night 3D
Short Circuit
Short Circuit 2
Sidekicks
Sixteen Candles
Sky High
SLC Punk
Sneakers
Some Like it Hot
Space Jam
Spaceballs
Stand by Me
Starcrash
Stephen King's It
Stir Crazy
Stripes
Subspecies series
Suburban Commando
Sucker Punch
Swingers
Tango and Cash
Taxi
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: Secret of the Ooze
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III: Turtles in Time
The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai: Across the 8th Dimension
The Breakfast Club
The Car
The City of Lost Children
The Day of the Dolphin
The Dirty Dozen
The Exorcist
The Experiment
The Firm
The Five Deadly Venoms
The Fly
The Frighteners
The Fugitive
The Gamers
The Gamers: Dorkness Rising
The Great Muppet Caper
The Great Outdoors
The Howling
The Hustler
The Infidel
The Inglorious Bastards
The Langoliers
The Last Dragon
The Last Lovecraft: Relic of Cthulhu
The Last Starfighter
The Last Unicorn
The Lazarus Project
The Lion King
The Lost Boys
The Man From Earth
The Mask
The Muppet Movie
The Neverending Story
The Quick and the Dead
The Rocketeer
The Secret of NIMH
The Silence of the Lambs
The Sword and the Sorcerer
The Untouchables
The Warriors
The Warrior's Way
They Live!
This is Spinal Tap
Time Bandits
Tombs of the Blind Dead
Toxic Avenger
Trading Places
Trancers series
Transylvania 6-5000
True Romance
Up in Smoke
Victor Victoria
Wargames
Warriors of Virtue
Weird Science
Who Framed Roger Rabbit
Willow
Xanadu
Young Frankenstein
Zero Effect
Zu Warriors
And every movie Frietag confirms actually seeing:
12 Monkeys
2001: A Space Odyssey
300
Akira
All the Star Trek original cast movies
All the Star Wars movies
Apollo 13
Batman
Blade Runner
Blues Brothers
Brazil
Daybreakers
Dr. Strangelove; or How I learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
Dune
Escape from New York
ET: The Extraterrestrial
Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children
Full Metal Jacket
Ghostbusters
Gladiator
Groundhog Day
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
Johnny Mneumonic
Jurassic Park
Labyrinth
Lethal Weapon
Predator
Predator 2
Pulp Fiction
Raiders of the Lost Arc
Repo Man
Reservoir Dogs
Robocop
Rocky
Scarface
Shaolin Soccer
Tank Girl
Terminator 2
The Dark Crystal
The Fifth Element
The Hunt for Red October
The Incredibles
The Name of the Rose
The Neverending Story
The Nightmare Before Christmas
The Peter Jackson Lord of the Rings trilogy
The Princess Bride
The Rocky Horror Picture Show
The Running Man
The Seven Samurai
The Shawshank Redemption
The Usual Suspects
Tron
Wag the Dog
(about 60 out of about 300, depending on how you count movie series)
And if you want to make a checklist of every 80s and early 90s movie, in the original spirit of the thread, then I believe this is the list of every US theater release movie originally released between 1980 and 1995, sorted by year and then by title:
Airplane! (1980)
Caddyshack (1980)
Friday the 13th (1980)
Private Benjamin (1980)
Stir Crazy (1980)
Xanadu (1980)
Absence of Malice (1981)
American Werewolf in London (1981)
Caveman (1981)
Clash of the Titans (1981)
Excalibur (1981)
Stripes (1981)
The Great Muppet Caper (1981)
The Howling (1981)
Time Bandits (1981)
48 Hours (1982)
Fast Times at Ridgemont High (1982)
Halloween 3: Season of the Witch (1982)
It Came from Hollywood (1982)
Kung Fu From Beyond the Grave (1982)
Night Shift (1982)
Pink Floyd the Wall (1982)
Poltergeist (1982)
Porky's (1982)
The Last Unicorn (1982)
The Secret of NIMH (1982)
The Sword and the Sorcerer (1982)
Victor Victoria (1982)
Christine (1983)
Cujo (1983)
D.C. Cab (1983)
Doctor Detroit (1983)
Krull (1983)
Risky Business (1983)
Trading Places (1983)
Wargames (1983)
A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984)
Bachelor Party (1984)
Beverly Hills Cop (1984)
Firestarter (1984)
Johnny Dangerously (1984)
Night of the Comet (1984)
Purple Rain (1984)
Red Dawn (1984)
Romancing the Stone (1984)
Sixteen Candles (1984)
The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai: Across the 8th Dimension (1984)
The Last Starfighter (1984)
The Neverending Story (1984)
This is Spinal Tap (1984)
Toxic Avenger (1984)
A View to a Kill (1985)
Back to the Future (1985)
Breakfast Club (1985)
Clue (1985)
Enemy Mine (1985)
Fright Night (1985)
Goonies (1985)
Ladyhawke (1985)
Legend (1985)
Lifeforce (1985)
One Crazy Summer (1985)
Red Sonja (1985)
Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins (1985)
The Breakfast Club (1985)
The Last Dragon (1985)
Transylvania 6-5000 (1985)
Weird Science (1985)
Back to School (1986)
Cobra (1986)
Ferris Bueller's Day Off (1986)
Heartbreak Ridge (1986)
Howard the Duck (1986)
Little Shop of Horrors (1986)
Platoon (1986)
Pretty in Pink (1986)
Rawhead Rex (1986)
Short Circuit (1986)
Stand by Me (1986)
The Fly (1986)
Adventures in Babysitting (1987)
Evil Dead 2: Dead by Dawn (1987)
Hellraiser (1987)
Project X (1987)
Raising Arizona (1987)
Spaceballs (1987)
The Lost Boys (1987)
The Untouchables (1987)
Beetlejuice (1988)
Big (1988)
Coming to America (1988)
Dead Heat (1988)
Funny Farm (1988)
Killer Klowns From Outer Space (1988)
Maniac Cop (1988)
Short Circuit 2 (1988)
The Great Outdoors (1988)
They Live! (1988)
Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988)
Willow (1988)
Back to the Future II (1989)
Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure (1989)
Blind Fury (1989)
Dead Poets Society (1989)
Pet Sematary (1989)
Tango and Cash (1989)
Back to the Future III (1990)
Brain Dead (1990)
Edward Scissorhands (1990)
Ghost (1990)
Goodfellas (1990)
Robot Jox (1990)
Stephen King's It (1990)
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1990)
Beauty and the Beast (1991)
Dollman (1991)
Drop Dead Fred (1991)
Hook (1991)
Naked Lunch (1991)
Nothing but Trouble (1991)
Riki-Oh: the Story of Ricky (1991)
Suburban Commando (1991)
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: Secret of the Ooze (1991)
The Rocketeer (1991)
The Silence of the Lambs (1991)
A Few Good Men (1992)
Aladdin (1992)
Dead Alive (1992)
Demonic Toys (1992)
Lawnmower Man (1992)
Sidekicks (1992)
Sneakers (1992)
Dollman vs Demonic Toys (1993)
Robin Hood: Men in Tights (1993)
Robot Jox 2: Robot Wars (1993)
Schindler's List (1993)
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III: Turtles in Time (1993)
The Firm (1993)
The Fugitive (1993)
True Romance (1993)
Forrest Gump (1994)
The Lion King (1994)
The Mask (1994)
A Goofy Movie (1995)
Casino (1995)
Hackers (1995)
Heat (1995)
Jumanji (1995)
Mortal Kombat (1995)
Seven (1995)
The City of Lost Children (1995)
The Quick and the Dead (1995)
That is 152 movies, so Frietag if you watch two every weekend, you'll complete the list sometimes in June of 2013.
That feeling you'll be having sometime around September, that's the same feeling all badge hunters get eventually. -
Quote:I have a theory about that which I haven't specifically discussed with the devs, so this is just a theory and not the devs talking here. But there is a certain amount of overhead to addressing any bug: you have to check out the right code or resources and fire up the right tools or other utilities necessary to view them, edit them, document the changes, etc. A ten second spelling error could take ten or fifteen minutes for a dev to get into the right "position" to fix. So single spelling errors are actually far more costly to fix than they might appear.Originally Posted by Kitsune9tails
I suspect that there are people who collect bug reports and throw them into various bins labelled by urgency rather than ease of fix.
Working from the 'most urgent' bin down to the 'least urgent' bin, I suspect you won't get to "spelling errors' for awhile.
I further suspect that you are more likely to get a spelling error fixed by PMing Avatea, Zwillinger, or War Witch than by filing a bug report.
On the other hand, if someone were to collate a large number of them together, with enough information to rapidly and conclusively find them, and put that in a single submission to the devs, that might be something that rose to the level of being worth addressing, because it may be more efficient to address dozens of them or even hundreds of them at once. Their bug system might not collate them automatically like that. A big bunch of them might be something they could hand off to an intern or something and have them go through and do all at once.
I don't know if anyone is actually interested in collating spelling errors, but it might make them likely to be fixed if someone was. -
Quote:The primary impact Ada had on programming was in the thought process that went into the design of the language, for which people eventually picked up and adapted for other languages. But that's just the development of better tools: the impact of the DoD directive itself was to create a lot of Ada cheerleaders in the 80s, most of which were embarrassed into shutting up in the 90s. At one point there were people trumpeting that one day we'd all be coding in either Ada or assembly. It took a decade, but the rest of the world had the last laugh there.Originally Posted by Wing_Leader
The only reason we had any stringent practices at all, such as they were, was because without a reputation for reliability and performance, we had no customers. Contrast that with the entertainment industry that I work in now where any "professional practices" remotely like I knew from my previous experience(s) are utterly alien concepts. I can only conclude that ADA had a profound and lasting influence on professional programming only in the minds of its architects, who nurture a fantastical notion of its legacy.
Its not that Ada is a bad language: it has a lot of good qualities. But none of them specifically prevent poor quality or even encourage good quality, because good quality is not something encapsulated in syntax. Take the Ariane 5 kaboom. An Ada project. But if you look carefully, you'll see that Ada wasn't the cause of the failure, nor did it mitigate it. Ada was mostly irrelevant to it, because the problem was not in not obeying the language dictates, but in misusing them. As is true for most programming languages. A language can force people to obey your syntax, but a language cannot influence people to write good code. The promise of a language that will encourage good coding practice happens every few years: Ada, Pascal, C++, Java. Its only taken, what, thirty years for people to figure out that its good frameworks that encourage good programming practice, not good programming languages, because people tend to emulate their implementation. -
Quote:Because no other set has to, period.Originally Posted by Siolfir
I'm really, really, really wondering why having to take a very cheap toggle that also acts as a great set mule power is such a burden compared to other armor sets.
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Quote:At a glance, I believe Invuln does not include some cost for Dull Pain which should probably be stuck in there somewhere (in terms of endurance cost its more of a power like Practiced Brawler or Active Defense and less like a heal like Dark Regen or Healing Flames).Originally Posted by Rangle M. Down
Since there continues to be a discussion about endurance costs of sets, etc. I threw this together. I know it's not perfect, but this might help compare apples to apples better.
NOTE: With Shield Defense and Super Reflexes; I included a "end/second" cost if Practice Brawler and Active Defense were able to achieve a 120s recharge. (Basically averaging the activation cost across 120s.) It's not perfect, but I did wish to include an end cost for them.
Am I missing anything? Is there any other details I should add or change? Should I change the formatting?
Also, not sure about Dark Armor's toggles. The three resistance toggles are 0.104 * 2 * 3 = 0.624. Cloak of Darkness is 0.26. Oppressive Gloom is 0.078. Cloak of Fear is 0.52. I'm not sure how to end up with a combination that gets to 0.84.
Also, Energy, Electric, and Willpower all might as well be zero, since all of them get some form of recovery that equals or exceeds its own endurance costs. Slotted quick recovery is worth about 0.98 eps for Willpower. Energy and Electric's endurance is just short of unlimited once powers are slotted up.
Fiery Aura also generates more endurance than it burns with consume, although its a little trickier there because of the very long recharge and the fact that most of the recovery is in the big burst and not the recovery over time (in fact, while the recovery over time is good in that it isn't wasted when consume fills the end bar, it actually represents only about 1.25 endurance per target hit, or about 2.5 endurance per target hit slotted). -
Quote:Of the Ada directive? Honestly, I have no interest in addressing this particular topic with someone completely unqualified to discuss it. Its frankly offensive.Originally Posted by Another_Fan
Especially when standardization is a quality issue, and you contradict yourself. ITs also great that you have completely missed what the impact and lasting effects of the mandate were and are.
Standardization is a quality issue? Ahahahahaha. Unfortunately, I can't punish you for your stupidity, so I'm just going to have to take it out on the next idiot that suggests it. Standardization can be a tool to improve quality, just like documentation can be or pencils can be. But standardization does not, in and of itself, promote or enhance quality. In fact, a higher degree of standardization doesn't correlate to higher quality except extremely weakly: those that enact standardization efforts in some areas tend to have better habits in others.
The problem was the change was signed off on by the engineering team without *any* review. But to focus on the calculations is not understanding the lesson of the event, which is supposed to be obvious enough that anyone that doesn't shouldn't be talking about it much less be in a position to reproduce it. The change should have been rejected without a single calculation being made. The only thing calculations would have done is remind them that they were not supposed to do something that dumb in the first place. You do not "accidentally" sacrifice 50% of your design strength because you forgot to whip out your pocket calculator.Quote:The problem was never the change, the problem was that nobody bothered to do the calculations relevant to the change. -
Quote:My guess is that enhancements will mostly segregate into three types: cheap, moderate, and expensive.Originally Posted by peterpeter
And I suspect we're all coming up with a conclusion which is the opposite of that poster's worries. To me, this looks like a magic potion that turns crap into gold. It doesn't really matter that some people can afford more crap, or even that some people can afford more of the magic potion. In a world where it's possible to turn crap into gold, everyone is going to get more gold than they had before. And less crap.
[And, because this is an internet forum for a video game, we'll get complaints from people who miss the crap and hate tripping over all this gold.]
When the cheap stuff can be converted into expensive stuff, people will do that and that will deplete the cheap stuff and increase the supply of the expensive stuff. You'll end up with a lot less cheap stuff lingering on the markets, a higher supply of the really expensive stuff, and the moderate stuff will not move around too much: some will convert it, some will continue to sell it.
The interesting thing will be whether this causes people to run a lot more task forces. Because the intrinsic value of a merit has just potentially gone way, way up. -
Quote:It has always been common courtesy for as long as betas have existed for the people who spend time compiling guides for the players in beta to be given the courtesy of reposting and continuing to keep up those guides when the beta is released. Mistakes happen and in this case I believe this was an honest if overeager mistake. But that should really be an issue between Snow Globe and Terminotaur. Whatever claims they have, the rest of us have less than zero.Originally Posted by Thirty-Seven
Don't bother to apologize, you have no need... Snowglobe is just being overly possessive of something he really has no claim to.
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Quote:Incarnate Trial - TPN CampusOriginally Posted by Deus_Otiosus
While you're busy making them immune to everything, could you maybe look into their ability to debuff def by half just by looking at you?
- Telepathists pacify was incorrectly debuffing defense by 5% due to a decimal error. It has been corrected to debuff defense by 500% in a future build.
(5%, per Telepath, stackable, with infinite range, and unresistable, seems slightly high to me. Where's the 10% unresistable stackable resistance debuff? Oh yeah, I forgot what game I was playing for a moment.) -
Quote:It was a response to the Department of Defense wanting to impose a standard programming language. It had nothing specifically to do with quality control. To the extent the language was designed to be more structured and modular, the intent was for the language itself to promote better coding practice. But 1815 didn't specify *how* Ada was to be used, and there was no corresponding standards ever drafted for best practices in system design that incorporated the language.Originally Posted by Another_Fan
MIL-STD-1815 AKA The ADA mandate.
Which was the response to the profession's lack of quality control and standards. So no particular error just an overwhelming number of them.
There *were* standards of project management at the time, but anyone who's seen those in the DoD for this period of time claiming they improved the methodology of software engineering is insane.
To be specific, the Ada directive:
a) didn't impact the profession overall, just one of its clients
b) didn't actually specifically address any quality issue, only standardization
c) just forced us to code in Ada, for one client, for a while.
And the legacy of Ada is that most of us talk about Ada more than we use it. Much like OSI: we talk about it, but we don't design around it. Ask the MPLS guys what layer they were targeting MPLS for when that was invented. For that matter, there's RFC3439. And even the Ada mandate itself lasted for only about twelve years: it doesn't exist now.
Err, no. First of all, the hanger rod change doubled the load on the lower box beam connection point. To say it would have been fine if the beam were stronger would be like saying everything would have been fine if the walkways were made of adamantium. That design would not have supported the load with a small change in materials: it would have required a radical rethink of the system.Quote:Edit: Your commentary on the Hyatt beam is also off. That engineering change would have been fine if the beam were stronger. The problem was that no one had bothered to do the calculations to see if the beam could take the load.
As it was even with the original single-rod hangers the box beams were not designed with sufficient safety margin. They were designed to handle 100% of the design load, but the building codes at the time required a 60% safety margin. But by doubling the load with the design change, the box beam connector bracket was now being asked to support 200% of its maximum design load. That ultimately resulted in the collapse.
The *cause* of the collapse wasn't numbers, though, it was the fact that neither the structural engineers nor the construction fabricators felt responsible for the overall design, so no one bothered to question ad hoc changes to the design like this. This actually changed the industry in a way software implementation hasn't, which is why I mentioned it. It specifically caused the industry to declare that structural engineers have final ultimate responsibility for the entire as-built design of their projects, including change orders. They are explicitly taught not to rubber stamp design changes because they are singularly responsible for all of them. And its worth noting that even in the absence of that industry directive, the engineers responsible were punished by the industry (by having their licenses to practice engineering revoked). -
Quote:Break free inspirations certainly can be used to break out of the occasional mez, but that's really not the point. If you're saying break frees eliminate the issue, then I don't think you really know how prevasive or strong immobilize is in the game.Originally Posted by JayboH
...because break frees don't exist
Immobilize is a very common and long duration mez relative to its recharge. Melee don't notice, because all melee are protected against it. Squishies tend to notice it more, but they also generally kill the source of immobilizes with ranged attacks which reduces the net effect. It would literally be like adding sappers to every critter faction and telling people that hey, cabs exist, so what's the problem. -
Quote:I've tanked the STF with a Dark Brute. That doesn't say anything in particular: I'm pretty certain you'll find players that have tanked most of the AVs with pretty much any set. I don't even know what you mean by KB/KD being a specific advantage for SR: it has the same advantage for everyone in general: taking out targets. But if it has any synergistic advantage at all, it would be skewed towards the sets with the most healing and regeneration due to the fact those sets disproportionately benefit from slowing down incoming damage that way. It would have zero effect against the two situations I mentioned: quartz enimators and vengeance because quartz summons are no longer interruptable and knock has no effect on vengeance triggering.Originally Posted by New Dawn
When it comes to SR anything with KB/KD powers in their secondary has an advantage. I tank every AV going with SR scrappers as it is, what it is I am currently doing is leveling a SR Tanker to see if it feels balanced enough.
The point you seem to be dismissing is that everyone has problems in different areas. Either you see the fact that Dark Armor has problems as unique, which it is not, or you see the problems themselves as uniquely inescapable, which begs the question what have Dark Armor brutes, tankers, and especially scrappers been doing all this time.
Its particularly odd that the situation you've decided to focus on is being the center of a huge amount of stacked tohit debuffs. If you can't hit anyone with Dark Regen, you can't hit anyone at all. That means not only do you not have a heal, you have no offense. Scrappers and Brutes have basically zero offense in that situation. Tankers can't use gauntlet or bruising, both of which require hitting the target. You're left with a tanker doing nothing but taunt, and brutes and scrappers doing nothing period. That's not just true for Dark Armor, but true for most melee primary/secondary combinations. You're just not supposed to be facing huge amounts of tohit debuffs alone all the time: everyone is toast in the situation where you can't hit anything. -
Quote:Its not remotely the same thing. There's no solo mission at standard difficulty that can kill you with knockback. There are lots that can kill you with immobilize, and trap a player permanently with no way to escape. Running a melee character without knockback protection is a risk. Running without immobilize is suicide. You're guarateed to die eventually, and it will be a very frustrating death: like being perma-held for ten minutes while something slowly kills you. No power pool is that kind of mandatory.Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
At least it wouldn't have been as bad as needing Acrobatics on a Fiery Aura or Dark Armor before IOs existed. Combat Jumping is available at level 4 now, level 6 before that, and it's available as the first pick in the pool. Acrobatics required 2 power picks and wasn't available until level 20.
For a scrapper, stalker or brute Combat Jumping is available before you get your mez protection toggle.
I would not have seen Combat Jumping being required as being a big deal.
It wasn't just that you could - would - die. It was the very peculiar way you could die: watching a single minion take longer to kill you than it would take to log out, log back in, and then restart the mission and get back to that point. -
Quote:That's non-sequitor. Resistability has nothing to do with the frequency at which it goes off.Originally Posted by Redoptic
Nope it's resistible right now.
Bruising goes off 100% of the time the attack hits the target: I don't see a specific reason to make it go off more often than that, which would basically require making the effect autohit.
Can't make it unresistable. That would be horribly broken.
