Snow Globe

I like the fact that this encourages more people to get together.

Ewww, yuck. I've been on some groups like that. It isn't pretty.

<Shrug> More players means greater chance that you have a good mix of characters with the needed powersets to complete the trials.

I have no problem with that and I think that is a good reason for the minimums.

I am thankful that bugs are actually being fixed.

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Wendy, it is perfectly clear to me that you have so much invested in this that you aren't even willing to see another viewpoint. At that point a discussion is not possible. So rather than continue this, I'm not going to respond to you about it any more.

I'm guessing certificates (account) and vouchers (character), as that is an apt description of them.

After Issue 21 launches, you will get higher tiers for three times less money than long term veteran players. A new subscriber will pay 3 times less money for the same rewards than a long term player.

And the word you are looking for is "WANT", not "NEED". You WANT to be at the same levels as other players, you don't NEED to.

No other TF or Trial gives out incarnate XP. I know for a fact that on beta that players farmed incarnate xp when there were no minimum amount of alive players were on the map. Smaller leagues give more incarnate xp. They also didn't have any content that allowed you to grow beyond level 50 either, so your demands that they continue in the same mould as previous content is moot. There is also the Empyrean merits.

I would accept (and I suspect that the developers might share this opinion) trials not failing if the following stopped awarding for leagues that significantly fell below the minimum requirements: Incarnate XP, Empyrean Merits, Astral Merits, Badges (and their components), and the trial reward tables.

Eliminate those, and you clear all the balance issues an undersized league present.

Going 1 or 2 players under the minimum doesn't trigger this. The original poster dropped to two-thirds of the minimum for a large portion of the trial.

The trials are new content, with new rules. Of course some people can't see beyond the old content.

You mean 6, right?

Neither do I. However it is new content, it has new rules, and the rewards they give are balanced by those rules.

The trials were never meant for solo, duo, or small team play. If you want that, you'll have to wait for the developers to make Incarnate content for those groups.

Sadly that feature is still broken.

Enforcement of the league minimums on the Incarnate Trials is intentional:
There is a check and it seems to be working. If anyone has a problem with that, they should take it up with the developers, not other players.

Because the chance that it would remain a harmless option would be likened to a snowball's chance of staying frozen on the sun. It would, in a nutshell, be abused and help people that wanted to cause grief to others an avenue they don't have now.

Funny, I've only once had a non-valid character on a Apex TF. It delayed the TF a grand total of 2 minutes. Since Issue 19 launched. Simply put, your suggestion is a solution looking for a problem.

We don't NEED anything visual, even with the introduction of F2P and Premium accounts. If you don't want to worry about who can join your incarnate trial, go to the new VIP server. Labelling other players in the fashion you are suggesting brings some historically unpleasant thoughts with it. It ostracises groups of players based on a prejudice.

What you are trying to do could be solved by taking a couple of seconds to, I don't know, COMMUNICATE. If you can't communicate this basic information and assess if players qualify, then how can you lead one of these?

I compare it with amusement park rides saying that you have to be this tall to ride.

From what I can tell there is a bit of grace. It seems that if a trial meant for 12-24 players looses 4 players, that is too many players lost.

1 token per vet badge, +1 per every 4 vet badges. I could hit Positron for complicating this with his formula. There are times when math gets in the way, and this is one of them.

No, you don't. You get the Vet Rewards conversion up front, the 1 token/month does not start until Issue 21 launch. Dev Chat Highlights, July 20: Paragon Rewards - First post.



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As you can see, you don't get +1 token for every month starting in July. Please let that false rumor die a swift death.

If Freedom launched in June, you would have the 72 month Vet reward. That would get you 30 Reward Tokens at that point. If Freedom launches before your next Veteran Reward, you need 3 tokens to fill up Tier 8. If it launches in September (after your next vet reward) to November, you would have 31 Reward Tokens (2 tokens to fill up tier 8).

After Issue 21 launch, you will earn 1 token a month (if you subscribe), 1 token next June (if you continue to subscribe until then), and 1 token for every 1,200 Paragon Point you buy (not the stipend).

Handy chart, the red numbers are the bonus token for each year:


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This should give everyone a rough idea where they will place in the Paragon Rewards program when Issue 21 launches.

From everything posted/announced, a good guess would be 33/34 tokens. Tier 8 will be filled with the 33rd token. Tier 9 starts with the 34th token.

Probably people constantly refreshing due to errors.

Can you make a Facebook page for your character from home? Or the library?

I'm guessing it should be available with Issue 21 launch, at a price of $0.25 (20 Paragon Points).

Apparently it was a very good guess.

Well, before you necropost to a thread 3 months old, you might want to check any patch notes made:
Posted on 05-24-2011, 10:31 AM

I usually have all character names disabled. If the info were in the /info window, that might be acceptable. Constantly floating above a character's head? No. Just no.

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I'll point out that this is already the case, without the labels. This usually prompts me to show all buffs (which will show any Alpha Power slotted), and those that don't I look at their badges for the Alpha Unlocked. One time a player brought something other than a level 50, and that was easily spotted (and corrected) as well.

I thought that was what "Too Few Players to Finish" meant. Silly me.

It isn't a new feature with Issue 20.5, and the people that duo'd the trials did so because of a bug that prevented the league from collapsing for too few players. Thankfully it has been at least partially fixed.

The reason for it is that most teams with the minimum to start the trials failed during beta.

BTW, something not included in the announcement:

This portion they were intending to give EU codes out:

Wednesday, July 27, from 11am PDT (2 pm EDT / 7 pm BST / 8 pm CEST) to 1 pm PDT (4 pm EDT / 9 pm BST / 10 pm CEST)

This portion they were intending to give NA codes out:
5 pm PDT (8 pm EDT / 1 am BST / 2 am CEST) to 7 pm PDT (9 pm EDT / 3 am BST / 4 am CEST).

It would have been nice to be warned in advance.

The annoying thing of it is, is that I've had the "Snow Globe" character on the test server for years (2005), so it couldn't be made from "the first character logging in". It had to be someone deliberately changing their chat handle to "@Snow Globe".

After Issue 21, Going Rogue is included for all VIP subscribers:

Side-by-Side Comparison

While some parts are able to be purchased (not clear what parts of Going Rogue are "Purchasable", and after repeated attempts at a clarification we still don't have an answer), the Incarnate System is locked to VIP access only (and is NOT a part of Going Rogue).

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At best, these two are redundant:

Going Rogue (required for incarnate trials)
VIP (required for incarnate trials)

And this too:
A player's Inf total isn't displayed to the world, neither should the player's or group's prestige earnings.

Paragon Rewards:
You spend Paragon Rewards Tokens and Paragon Points in different ways.

That was a bad movie.

I just checked, I logged into the test server 30 days ago and my test server chat handle was "@Snow Globe" then, now it is "@Snow Globe1". Worse, I can't change it back as it is "taken". What happened?

Well, I wanted to make sure I still had my global name, which I apparently don't for some reason.