Ardrea

Some of them roleplay, but I don't think they're heavily into it. Check out their forums post here.

I find this to be the issue. If someone one else hadn't already been working on your base, or if it was you, personally, doing the work, I'm sure this would have been fine. But someone else was.

This part isn't accurate. It omits the part where I was told by you that someone else would be doing a few things and "...maybe we'll tear things up a bit..." I wasn't asked, I was told. I also did not tell you it was a "slap in the face." I don't use that metaphor. I said, just as my second post here indicates, that it would be okay if you wanted someone else to work on it. And I certainly expressed my disapproval through my short replies to you -- I was very angry, but as I said above, I was willing to let it blow over for the sake of our friendship.

I could write a lot about mutual gratitude here but it would be grossly off-topic. It would also put us both in some unhappy lights, and I doubt the other readers of this thread would care.

On topic, if you don't want someone to take over construction, then don't let them work on the base, or have them contact the person who is working on the base. Just showing ideas isn't justification. Imagine if you were having a portrait of yourself being done at a convention. You're lined up with a mediocre-talent artist from a lower-tier comic book line. She's an old friend, and is putting her best, limited as it is, into your portrait. Suddenly, you decide another person you've met might be able to draw your nose really well. Do you grab the half-finished portrait, and tell the artist that you just want to see how nice a nose the other person can paint, and sorry if we mess the partly-finished face up a little making room for the nose? Is it okay to do this, even if you promise to give it back afterwards? Even if you promise to erase the nose? Do you really expect the artist to finish the drawing, even if you apologize?

Again, this isn't quite accurate. We did have a short conversation afterwards, and you did apologize, and that was that. Then you didn't reply for a minute or two. I don't know how long it was, I don't keep a stopwatch going. And, after it seemed to me you must be working with your new base-builder, I logged out, upset and needing to cool off. I was done talking to you, and if I had stayed on to talk further, no good could have come from it. As for you're being upset that I logged off, am I not free to log on or off whenever I want to? Are you the only one who decides when the conversation was over? Must I stay on until you grant me permission to leave? Must I wait obediently and patiently for your next tell, no matter how long it takes? I choose for my self when I'm done talking to people, just as you do for your self.

Of course I removed my builder character from your SG. Why would I stay? The character only existed to work on your base, and I wasn't going to continue building, and had made that decision from the point you announced to me someone else would be tearing up the work I'd done.

This is an off-topic line, irrelevant to base building , but I'll address it, briefly. I do have my ups and downs, just as Clu505 does for himself. I've been there for him, even when he's been up and down, and even on prior occasions where he's taken my friendship for granted, even in the last two months prior to this base-building issue. Clu, if you want to discuss these issues and learn why I can fairly say I've been riding your roller-coaster too; one just as lumpy, or even more-so; I'm willing; but only in private via forum email messages.

It was a forgivable blunder, and I was willing to let it blow over and forgive you. But forgiveness, doesn't mean repair of injury, and there's no way I would continue working on your base. You could have let it rest at that, but you didn't.

.. all the game textures had bad words hidden in the low-order bit planes?

I would guess that sixth slot on VEATs has always been a bug, and it'll be fixed with i21 and the new five slots. My guess is that the sixth slot will show up with that extra costume in it, but be un-selectable unless one has purchased that slot through the Paragon Store.

Go back and read the first post in this thread, the one where the organizer set out the ground rules for the event. In it he referred to the other threads here where people were "asking for a new breed of RP" and he followed by listing the general "Things/concepts the meeting can do without". It seems to me you're quibbling that because it's not technically possibly for a player to exclude someone from his chosen location, that he's in the wrong to set rules for his own event.

That's pure nonsense.

He can, he did, and other people inadvertently didn't follow them. The only concern here is how to do better next time, not to give up and let his events be redefined by minorities of players who just show up, or worse, retreat back into private spaces.

Yes, it did happen there and then. Like Bloodspeaker said though, there's no blame on you. You couldn't possibly have known the parts he didn't tell you about. And I'm not sure even now if he had any idea how much work base building involves, or how disrespectful to me his way of relaying this felt.

If he had presented the issue to me differently, I would like to believe I'd have been happy to see another idea, leave aside another room to put a proposal up in, or even agree that someone else would do some specific work in one room while I did other things -- but that wasn't how he did it. I mentioned up above that my opinion is that "...a base is a painting, not a jam session", and I believe that. I chose that metaphor partly because I know the person who owned the base has a musician's mentality, and perhaps he really did think it would work out like inviting an extra person to a jam session, but instead, he took the brush out of my hand in the midst of my painting.

There's blame here, and I certainly have my share for not making clear to him how I wished to operate -- I thought that was just common-sense. But the majority I put on my former friend, who was perhaps too eager to see cool things happening to his base, and forgot a close friend was doing him a significant favor of effort and creativity, and that artistic respect and courtesy of friendship should have come first.

It would be an Earth-shattering Kaboom.

I'm with DarkGob on this. It's such an obvious means to farm for PVP drops, if Play-For-Free accounts can engage in PVP at all, which I find doubtful, then they'll be set to never drop a PVP recipe.

I was thinking "Goof", since "f" has the same relationship to "d" that "b" has to "v".

You're not happy that you're only being given a certain amount of access for free? If your sub lapses, and you don't like the level of service you're still granted for free, then re-sub. Access to those channels is important, yes. That's why it helps make the monthly subscription price worth-while, over and above the premium member support.

Let's say they didn't do CoH-Freedom. And then, at some upcoming date, you stopped paying for the game. You would then have access to zero archetypes, have no powersets, have no costume pieces, have no missions, have no supergroups, have no in-game mail, have no character slots, have no mission architect access, have no inventions, and have access to no channels at all -- not even local and help, much less the global channels. And not have lots of other stuff other stuff I didn't list.

But since they -are- doing CoH-Freedom, should, at some upcoming date, you stop paying for the game, you will continue to have vastly more as a Premium customer instead of a VIP customer. Please look at that list again, and focus on what you would be getting for free that you would not have had at all, instead of what one wouldn't have compared to those who continue to pay monthly subscriptions.

CoH-Freedom is a huge boon to those who have tight budgets and occasionally have to let their subs lapse.

I would be nice to see some of the architecture spruced up visually, or even a low-level villain group or two updated for Ultra mode.