William_Valence

Solo play is an extremely different animal. Yes, cage powers are valuable as you level but that value goes down as your build's power goes up. This is even more pronounced in teams, where buffs are often above and beyond the power of a build. Unfortunatly being more disruptive than usefull.

And caltrops is three steps to amazing:

1. Toss'em
2. ???
3. Profit

You just really can't compare the two in my opinion.

And I believe this highlights one of my points. Solo it is valuable to cage a pet or summon, in teams I often find the pets (killable ones that is ) are dying rapidly and caging them is time that could be better spent buffing, debuffing, or killing. Though I'll say Singy is a ******* spawn of hell and it almost never hurts to give him a time out

I am sorry to pick nits, but I don't believe that two Task forces could be considered several.

It's a great leveling power, that I wouldn't be caught without on a Sonic Resonance character, simply out of love for it, but the complaints aren't unfounded and while it might be underrated it's not too terribly underrated and it's reputation is deserved.

Sonic is a neat little powerset, but honestly between power creep and the fact this game has never been rocket science, soloing the game is a fairly simple (and enjoyable) task. My concern is in team situations, where cage powers are more often disruptive to gameplay, which led to my asking what situations can be modified to make caging easier without being disruptive.

And Sonic is a bit on the lower end of the buff/debuff sets it's also what I've got paired with illusion on my namesake and one of my favorite character of all time...of all time.

STF: Cage a tower, no more super-buff from that tower when trying to take out other towers/recluse. It's faster than killing the tower so if you could skip two towers in a STF, you can just kill one cage the second, and kill recluse. Or even kill three cage the last, that sort of thing.

Sutter: Cage Praetorian Durray and he doesn't AoE spamm, (as far as I can tell) doesn't summon, and won't recharge Primal Durray's TP power. Which makes thing's a tad easier.

That's part of it, but with the power creep we've been seeing I can tell you that Cages would be much more valuable in the context of preventing disruptive mechanics meant to counter that power creep (I.E. unresistable damage, damage patchs, and Sutter's TP power) With standard stuff, there are fewer examples (I can't think of any from a teaming perspective) of enemies that would be better off caged than killed.

This is exactly the kind of examples I was looking for. Not suprising that the majority of the situations woud be at higher levels, where the power creep is greatest, where there'd be more disruptive tricks.

Actually, this whole thread was inspired by the comments you made about the TPN after our Sutter the other day.

Yes, but you have to be both lucky and observant. Each Nictus has a different power with different GFX. If they are not clipped into each other, you can tell them apart fairly easily.

The three main attacks are meant to be quick as you would almost need all three for a chain. Roar and Pounce are intended to be longer recharge powers with some oomf. Feral slash is slower than it should be for the type of power it is, to compensate for the extra AoE in the 10ft PBAoE which is itself standard.

Claws was on one tab, street fighting on another, and katana on a third.

Wha'cha think?


Edit: sleepy title mistake

Read what I said again. You can't make a system that connects with game cannon that allows for effortless integration by players. Ancillaries were not tied to game cannon. They were an expansion of the leveling system without a cannon reason. Patron pools were the opposite, they were an expansion of the leveling system tied to cannon. Ancillaries would be a good example for not needing lore to expand the leveling system, but not an example of how to use lore to expand the system.

You don't want to be part of this story (Incarnates and praetoria), you don't like it, and I get that. The thing is, that's not what they're doing now. Taking it further, what they're doing now isn't bad you just don't like it. Just because you don't like it, doesn't automatically make it bad. I don't like country music. That doesn't make country music bad, it's just not my taste.

You're right, completely right. I'm going to go delete Floodgates, my Dark/Em tank who's supposed to be a water manipulator with all his powers tinted blue, because I was dismissing what the devs wrote in, And, Imma hack the game and get rid of Dech's Dark tank, because it's Dark armor not Sand Armor, and every Peacebringer who wanted flight at level 1 and the energy animations for their angel character, and every character who's creator decided to fudge stuff to fit their concept. Because that's just so terrible and offensive and not at all fitting the spirit of the game.

/threadjack

My charactors manage, and I scratch my head every time I see this. First of all, Prometheus said that the well is there to give individuals access to more of the universal potential than they would be able to claim on their own. Who's to say everyone can reach the same level on their own? Well you. Write your story. If you feel like running ramiel's arc, you can always say that your character is pretending to be an incarnate, while trying to accomplish X.

Second, the incarnate abilities are only the well's if you're not creative enough to make them your own. Why can your character summon a cimmeroran? The well lets you (Boring) or let's say you're a Warshade like mine, Moonshatter, and you've defeated so many Cimmerorans that their essence has imprinted on you. Instead of summoning a partial essence, every so often you can muster the ability to summon complete cimmeroran essences. Or you're like my character Necromicus, who's killed countless heroes, and is capable of pulling their souls from the afterlife forcing them to fight their former allys on his behalf (Phantoms). Or you're like my character Trueshooter, and that odd blue pet that followed you around since you saved it from Merlin's dungeon and fed trickles of your mystic energies revealed itself as the embodyment of your potential and, thanks to your care, now has enough power to fight by your side on occasion. (Imagine how giddy I was when I saw they added polar lights to the list of lore pets )

Moonshatter's judgement is the ultimate mire that focuses more on draining the enemy than strenthening himself. (Void) Necromicus has the Essence burn, that takes the shredded essences of the poor voulenteers of the Axis Amerika super soldier program and uses them to smite his enemies. Trueshooter uses a spell older than Merlin himself to summon a bolt of living lightning to attack his foes.

You either have to own it, or go with it. They can't make a system that connects with the game cannon that allows for effortless integration by players. If they don't tie the system to the trials, which are pointless if they aren't tied to the cannon, then it is a level cap increase. However, just because there are incarnate rising up everywhere, doesn't mean you have to be powered by the well. If you like the story for your character, use it. If you like the story, but not for your characters, use it as a backdrop. If you don't like the story, get your powers and continue your RPs in your base.

Depends on if the power is set to notify mobs, and if hide remains suppress on X.

If I had carte blanche to do whateve I wanted to stalker, I'd do the following.

Remove every change made to Stalkers. The higher base HP, the not losing hide when you miss AS, hidden status' 8s refresh, and crits out of hide. Stalkers would have the same attributes as they did at CoV launch.

Then the mitigation secondaries would be replaced with buff/debuff sets, and Hide would become Inherant. When hidden all debuff values would be doubled, and buffs and debuffs would not notify mobs or break hidden status. Attacking would still break hidden, and when out of hide the stalker would have the same debuff values as a Mastermind.

All sets that have no AoEs would get a 10% change to crit added to one of their powers.