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jeeeez 30 freakin days?? screw that, not even gonna touch the day job thing.

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You just have to log out in a certain spot each time you log out....

This ain't a bad thing people.

Wish it was more dynamic but whatever- probably go for the hosp and regen bonus.

Or the billy club power......

So, in the past- they datamined- saw what everyone was taking- then hella nerfed it cause it was "overpowered" (energy melee). NOW- they are seeing what most everyone is taking (focused accuracy) and giving it to everyone else.

LMAO.

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But I'm not having an aneurysm about this.

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Who's having an aneurysm? I'm stating it's a bad idea to put in place a mechanism that changes peoples power choices. There has to be a half dozen ways they can do this and not immediately force an unwanted change. It may take time, but it would be worth it. Based on the tanker taunt change, it appears it's already possible.

Changing numbers is one thing, logging into to find I have focused accuracy two slotted for slow and with two damage procs, *requiring* a respec to fix is just silly. I have damage procs in the other two powers as well. While the thought of FA turning into a self damage power is amusing, I'd really rather keep what I have.

Even if it was a power I took just to get another one, like boxing, wasn't slotted at all, and was replaced with focused accuracy... something many players would drool over, I'd still be against it. I'm against changing characters without the player doing it themselves.

Logging in to find your characters power lineup changed is an ugly solution. It should only be required upon the next respec. I'm not yelling, I'm not screaming. I'm pointing out a bad design decision in the hopes it can be changed before live. There must be a better way than this.

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Plus on top of all this is the fact that no one wanted or asked for powers to be swapped around to begin with- Villians want Epics. It's just that freaking simple. Some heroes want Patrons (LMAO). Not this mish-mash of crap with swapping a power out that the player picked to be given a power they did not choose in the first place. If I wanted FA on my scrapper I have that option- I do not because I did not want it. Now, it looks like the devs will be makiing the decision for us. What line of thinking propeled this decision? Serioulsy.

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Get your facts straight.

Plenty of people have asked for powers they don't have access to.

Plenty of PvPers have complained Power Boost is too powerful.

If you're going to scream NIMBY, your input will be given the regard it's due.

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LOL- where are my facts wrong? Serioulsy- people asking for powers they don't have access too- yeah- big shocker there- I KNOW people want powers they don't have access to, mainly, PATRONS v. EPICS. I never said people didn't. Here are your facts.

A). Patrons SUCK compared to hero epics- it's FACT.

B). Villians want the hero Epics. And Vice versa- It's FACT.

C). NO ONE wants powers taken away to be given powers they did not want. Serioulsy. Hundreds of complaints about Patrons v. Epics- no one said that they wanted powers actually taken away from them after the fact they choose them- they just want to be given more to choose from. Again, It's FACT.

D). From the info posted it seems like we are going to lose un-popular powers that players choose and be given powers that they could have choosen but did not. This flies in the face of past Dev explinations of datamining and "tweaking" (NERFING) popular powers. (ET, EMel). Now, they'll give the players the popular powers (FA) even if they could have taken them in the first place but didn't. I'm hoping to be wrong on this one but I have no faith in the Dev team and their actions of the last year. This all seems like it's going to be done to the characters even if the player do not want it to be done to their characters.

E). Why the hell are they even looking at the hero epics for power-swapping or whatever the devs are gonna call this massive cluster [censored] to begin with? Why is weapon mastery getting FA? Serioulsy WHY? What is it going to lose to get it? And all this is ignoring the fact that if the scrapper wanted to get FA all they had to do is pick the body mastery pool!! Is the weapon mastery going to lose anything to get FA?

And why the do you keep bringing up Power Boost? If I don't CARE about Power Boost in PvE I'm sure as hell not going to give one [censored] about in PvP or the MINORITY opinion of the crybaby PvP'ers.

Hopefully today there will some more expalining and this will all be a mis-understanding and they are actually going to give some Epic Pools a 5th power option. Hopefully in the end the villians get Epics. I know they are not going to be given over to villains in their entirety, which alone is cause for concern.

Less options are bad, more options are good.

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Yes, some heroes want the Patrons- sorry for dissing them before and above.

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But I'm not having an aneurysm about this.

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Who's having an aneurysm? I'm stating it's a bad idea to put in place a mechanism that changes peoples power choices. There has to be a half dozen ways they can do this and not immediately force an unwanted change. It may take time, but it would be worth it. Based on the tanker taunt change, it appears it's already possible.

Changing numbers is one thing, logging into to find I have focused accuracy two slotted for slow and with two damage procs, *requiring* a respec to fix is just silly. I have damage procs in the other two powers as well. While the thought of FA turning into a self damage power is amusing, I'd really rather keep what I have.

Even if it was a power I took just to get another one, like boxing, wasn't slotted at all, and was replaced with focused accuracy... something many players would drool over, I'd still be against it. I'm against changing characters without the player doing it themselves.

Logging in to find your characters power lineup changed is an ugly solution. It should only be required upon the next respec. I'm not yelling, I'm not screaming. I'm pointing out a bad design decision in the hopes it can be changed before live. There must be a better way than this.

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Plus on top of all this is the fact that no one wanted or asked for powers to be swapped around to begin with- Villians want Epics. It's just that freaking simple. Some heroes want Patrons (LMAO). Not this mish-mash of crap with swapping a power out that the player picked to be given a power they did not choose in the first place. If I wanted FA on my scrapper I have that option- I do not because I did not want it. Now, it looks like the devs will be makiing the decision for us. What line of thinking propeled this decision? Serioulsy.

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What logic is going into changing Hero Epics?

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You mean how like a power like Power Boost was so overwhelmingly unbalanced that if you had to chance to take it, you would, and then no other APP was ever taken for that AT?

We knew at least this one was coming.

There's going to be changes and no amount of screaming will stop it. If you playtest it and post results with recommendations, you may have the opportunity to shape those changes. If you preemptively scream NIMBY, they'll just tune you out.

And you can bet big money they'll give at least one freespec with this. They passed out freespec for far lesser changes.

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I don't even KNOW what AT gets power boost in their epic (I think it's contollers?) - because epics were NOT the issue- the issue was that Patrons SUCK compared to the Epics. So they are going to force changes on to heroes who might not want them or just don't want the changes at all instead of just giving the god damn epics to villians??

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Don't sue "the Lord"'s name in vain. It's just tacky and bad form.

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LOL- "sue the lords name in vain" gave me a quick "What the hell are you talking about" moment.

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What logic is going into changing Hero Epics?

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You mean how like a power like Power Boost was so overwhelmingly unbalanced that if you had to chance to take it, you would, and then no other APP was ever taken for that AT?

We knew at least this one was coming.

There's going to be changes and no amount of screaming will stop it. If you playtest it and post results with recommendations, you may have the opportunity to shape those changes. If you preemptively scream NIMBY, they'll just tune you out.

And you can bet big money they'll give at least one freespec with this. They passed out freespec for far lesser changes.

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I don't even KNOW what AT gets power boost in their epic (I think it's contollers?) - because epics were NOT the issue- the issue was that Patrons SUCK compared to the Epics. So they are going to force changes on to heroes who might not want them or just don't want the changes at all instead of just giving the god damn epics to villians??

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Dude, they'll be buffing the Patron Pools and not by simply nerfing the APPs.

However, there are some powers in the APPs which are so overpowered, that even if City of Villains never existed, they'd have to nerf anyway.

Before you have an aneurysm, why don't you wait until you see what the changes are.

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I'm not seeing nerfing anywhere- I'm seeing "you will lose power "X" to be replaced by a more popular power everyone else has".

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What logic is going into changing Hero Epics?

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You mean how like a power like Power Boost was so overwhelmingly unbalanced that if you had to chance to take it, you would, and then no other APP was ever taken for that AT?

We knew at least this one was coming.

There's going to be changes and no amount of screaming will stop it. If you playtest it and post results with recommendations, you may have the opportunity to shape those changes. If you preemptively scream NIMBY, they'll just tune you out.

And you can bet big money they'll give at least one freespec with this. They passed out freespec for far lesser changes.

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I don't even KNOW what AT gets power boost in their epic (I think it's contollers?) - because epics were NOT the issue- the issue was that Patrons SUCK compared to the Epics. So they are going to force changes on to heroes who might not want them or just don't want the changes at all instead of just giving the god damn epics to villians??

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I think it's funny how mad some folks get at changes that aren't all even announced yet. So what if they take a power here or there and swap it... learn to deal with it. I mean, did the concept of flexibility disappear while I wasn't looking? It's not like any character will be "perfect" anyway; there is (and always will be) room for improvement on all characters. Why do you think people argue ad infinitum about slotting and power choices on practically every power combination, hmmmm? Because everyone has a different (and in most cases), just as good and valid way of doing things.

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Uhm- my scrapper is perfect for me and his concept- and No- I most certainly will NOT deal with it. I will question these changes especially BEFORE they get announced especially when they reflect an almost complete lack of understanding to the issue. The Issue is Patrons SUCK compared to Epics- in terms of flexiblility, concept and power. Was anyone anywhere asking for Weapon Mastery to get FA? Seriously? How was that even considered relevant to the issue?

So, they take the power most people take and drop the powers that not alot of people take globally- wow- don't worry about min/maxing now- the devs will do it for you.

I will also again seriously question the mindset making freaking scrappers MORE powerful. I mean, really- WTF is up with this thinking??

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[u]Topic: PvE Power Changes.[u]


[u]Patron Pools and APP[u]

1. They all got looked at by Posi, Castle, and minion. Datamined which ones were taken and which were ignored. Buffs, nerfs, and power replacements!

2. If powers are replaced, when you log in, you'll have the new power. No grandfathering.

3. About 20% of the A/EPPs were replaced.

4. As one example of the Epic/Patron changes, Castle mentions that Weapon Mastery for Scrappers will now include Focused Accuracy. If his memory is correct.



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Hmmm. No 'grandfathering'? I remember hearing that term, but I'll need a quick refresher course.

I wonder if this'll mean that if we don't like the replacements, we'll have to 'respec' them. Would be nice if this means we'll get a free 'spec with this update.

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Jesus Christ, they had better not take away my Caltrops on my scrapper- and a big [censored] WTF on Hero Epics changing?? What the hell prompted this?! It was the patrons that are the issue- the patrons freaking SUCK compared to the flexibility of the hero epics. Why change anything in the weapon mastery?? If Scrappers wanted focused accuracy then they take that Epic Pool.

What logic is going into changing Hero Epics?

And reading this seems like I log into my Scrapper after the change and find out his powers have been changed and taken away I'm gonna be hyper-pissed.

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And to round it off:

Graviton Girl by ChillyPlasma



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I see the words "Chilly" and "Girl" in the same sentence I expect to see nipples in the picture. I see NO nipples in that picture.

::sigh::

It IS still an awesome picture none the less though. Yay for you!!

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Jeepers- I would be happy if they just lowered the stupid long activation time for Overload. Make it like Build-Up and have it not root you.

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How about giving Energy Drain a Fulcrum Shift like property- you drain their end, but also lower their recharge speed and damage output giving you a boost to your recharge and damage output. I don't know if FS is auto hit or not, but this is what I was thinking of tonight when I was playing my EM/EA.

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Where are the NEW ZONES for VILLAINS?
Gosh where is the New Content for Villains?


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Where are the NEW ZONES for HEROES?
Gosh where is the New Content for Heroes?

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Heroes don't really need any new zones. Like I said before on hero side, there are still zones and contacts I have never seen or spoken to in 4 years of playing this game.

Villains side, I've exsperienced everything... 5 times. Villains are the ones lacking in the content department.

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And oddly enough... the number of villan players is much smaller than hero players.

So the devs could spend their time creating more content for the smaller segment of the player base... or they could spend their time creating content for the larger segment of the player base... or they could spend their time creating content for both segments simultaneously...

gosh... I wonder what they'll do...??

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Hopefully they'll add more contacts and story arcs to villians side. Having to do heroic missions on my villian in the co-op zones blows chunks.

So far most of the storys I have in my head are for villians, so hopefully the mission creator will help some what.

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I herded the whole building to her.......uhm......does that make me culpable?

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Nope, that makes you a hero.

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Correction:

A LVL 2 hero!

I herded the whole building to her.......uhm......does that make me culpable?

Hah hah!!

Maybe you'll get REAL powers next time loser.

Someone fell down and go boom

Sucks to be you

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As of right now I own 459M Infamy, after market fees, worth of Respec Recipes. I will let you know how much these are worth in two weeks.

I like this move a lot. However, it butchered my schemes.

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I don't always agree with you Smurphy but I love your honesty! Can you tell us what your scheme was?

Anyway- cool- but I don't think this is going to generate near as much money as they think and I'm just boggled why they went with this.

But more options- YAY!!

Another post out there calling someone stupid- I notified a mod and found out that someone else had already done so.....

Wonder if that post will still be there tonight?

Hmmmmmmmmmm...............

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Just curious, it is noted that Quick Recovery has no sets that can be applied to it. Is this because they had no endurance modification sets at the time this was written?

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Yes. There were many new sets roled out after the inital release of the l00t into the game.

Endurance Mods, Taunt, Purple sets, To-hit buffs, To-hit De-buffs are a few......

Paragonwiki has most of the info regarding IO sets.

I hope this helps.

Post Reported as per the new forum commandements-

There shall be NO mention of MMO's before CoX. Forum commandemnt Number.......Uhm.....8(?)ish, I think

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But....but....but.....but......

I VANT TO SUCK YOUR BLUD!!!!!

And count things.....

One, ONE Stake in the heart!!

Two, TWO!! Stakes in the heart!!!

Dis is fun!!

Three, THREEEE Stakes in the heart!!

Ohhhhhh getting a wittle dizzy noaw........

Four...FOUR FOUR!! Stakes....stakes....Steaks?? Mmmhhmmm...Steaks.......

::thud::

Jazman, or whomever (not looking)

"Free" means nothing in this game is free.........

cause nothing in this game is free

except maybe the dev's love

::shudder::

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Perfect example to the dicussion at hand-

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I'm above taking crybabies stuff.



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This post made by "someone" on 7-18-08. I notified a moderator to it's presence only to find out that a moderator has been notified already BUT the post still stands.

This of course will fall under the catch all rule about the "whim of a moderator"- but really it is just a post of someone calling another poster a crybaby and the post still stands.

A reason why one insulting post is allowed to stay but another is not is all most people are asking for.

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Post is still there. I can guess then it's okay to make generalized insulting statements as long as you don't single people out.

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Perfect example to the dicussion at hand-

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I'm above taking crybabies stuff.



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This post made by "someone" on 7-18-08. I notified a moderator to it's presence only to find out that a moderator has been notified already BUT the post still stands.

This of course will fall under the catch all rule about the "whim of a moderator"- but really it is just a post of someone calling another poster a crybaby and the post still stands.

A reason why one insulting post is allowed to stay but another is not is all most people are asking for.

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I have to wait 51 months to use helmets that could have easily been introduced as a pay-for patch similar to the tuxedo and wedding gown patch?

Stupid. There's no other way to put it. People have been requesting these for a really long time, and I've been around since CoV launch and that's no where near 51 months. Ugh at this.

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