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Quote:But...but...I don't think anyone logical thinks you are evil... they just wish that you (or whoever) had different methods at your disposal... and really, since you communicated admirably in that thread, I wouldn't worry about it too much, were I you.
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For many of us, working in the gaming industry is a distant dream, much less working on the game we love. Because so many of us are grateful to be where we are, we're always looking for way to pay it forward.
Many of you may have noticed the new person sitting behind me durring our Twitch broadcasts. Some of you may have interacted with him as Mod 09 during his short stint here at Paragon (*cough*). Well, most of you probably know him as Adric "Arbiter Fabulous" Mayall. "Fab" as he is called by many, is a long time veteran of CoH, having started playing way back in beta. Through the years he's been involved in many aspects of the City of... Community, as a part of the Streetwise CoV Promotion team, a staff member of City Scoop and having been an attendee at Hero Cons, Meet & Greets and both of the Pummits. With Herr Freitag taking an extended vacation, we had an opportunity to invite Adric to spend some time working more closely on the game we all love. Sadly, with Freitag returning from distant shores next week this time is coming to a close.
I would personally like to thank Adric for his time spent, not just for the last few months, but over the past several years, dedicated to the CoH Community. We wouldn't be the same without you!
You can enjoy Fab's lasting contribution to City of Heroes in the Captain Mako Week teaser-fiction published this afternoon, and in another 4 parts of the story, coming to you during Captain Mako Week! -
<<< This guy right here (going off of the comments in another thread)
If you can't laugh at yourself, you're doing it wrong. -
[QUOTE=Seschat;4304626]One, that's kind of depressing. I'd like to think my fellow CoH players are brighter than the average internet user. Two, one wonders how these numbers would change if the broken parts of the forums, such as the login, were ever fixed?[quote]
The log in errors were fixed awhile back
Quote:Companies that view it as a liability would be better off investing their time in teaching their employees proper social media management and security. IMHO that is.As I've said earlier, far too often the price of using social media is your career. You are fortunate, Zwillinger, that Paragon encourages your use of Twitter/Facebook/whatever. Many companies look on such usage as a liability to their business, and a poor reflection on your character. -
Quote:Ideally, that's a great idea. I'll look into seeing if that's something we can do that won't require monopolizing my staffs entire day.Z, it's not that you're using or promoting Twitter, it's that you're using it in a way that is going to be a frustrating, fruitless, time-wasting experience for 99%+ of those who actually try to take part. If you can change that, then by all means, tweet away. Otherwise, you need to realize that you're buying those follow numbers at the cost of frustration and annoyance from most everyone involved.
The facepalm emote giveaway worked great. You follow/like, you get it. No time sink, no lightning reflexes needed, no huge crowd left empty handed.
Here's a quick idea that somewhat follows the Facebook lines:
1) You follow the twitter account
2) You send a message to the account under some set of conditions (using a specific word from a tweet or within a certain timeframe)
3) You get a reply back with a code that you can use to unlock <insert shiny here>
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Quote:Yes, we're trying to grow another outlet. There's strategery in them thar hills.So your research and data indicates that Facebook is an effective tool to reach outside of your regular community, so then you decide to make a promotion only on Twitter?
Quote:You've been able to use a code generator app on Facebook in the past, as evidenced with the Facepalm emote giveaway.
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Quote:Interesting bit of Community Management science.Also, why not have another set of codes (for the same item) for loyal forum-goers to encourage players to actually use the fora? Isn't this where we're supposed to be giving feedback to you devs? Wouldn't having more players here help you get more feedback, or at least consolidate it in one place?
No matter how much you promote forum engagement through contests or other carrots, the most amount of players you'll ever see actually registering for your forums is 10%. That's 10% of the entire user base. Ever. Of that 10%, maybe 5% actually actively participates. I've personally seen this across multiple games and shared multiple experiences with my peers that reflects this as being pretty accurate, no matter the game. It's true for CoH (uncannily accurate actually) and I imagine it will remain constant for any other game I work on in the future.
The people who *want* to actively participate in the forums are going to do so, regardless of any carrots we dangle in front of them. Because you care, because you're passionate, you want to be involved with the future of the game.
Like I said previously, we'll have things that are exclusive to the fora, such as the voting for the Retro Sci-Fi costume set as an example. And we're going to definitely use other Social Media platforms to drive people to participate in the forum discussion as much as we can (we regularly link to forum threads on Facebook, Twitter and G+). I want for there to be synergy between all of our Community outlets, which is why we treat them all as equally important. -
Quote:FWIW, I agree.Zwill, I don't object AT ALL to you using and promoting Twitter - I use Twitter to promote my own business. By all means, use and promote Twitter.
My objection is to the code grab.
All it does is frustrate me. Especially when you then tell me I won't be able to get that item any other way.
I am faced with two options:- Do nothing.
- Do something that I don't particularly like but some will find fun and that will increase our audience via another social media platform that has a proven track record of reaching customers.
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On a weekly basis, we reach (actual reach, not potential) about ten times more people on Facebook than we do on the Official Forum. I have numbers to show this. Why is this? Because your average user is more inclined to check Facebook at work/home/on their phones/on the toilet/wherever than they are the fora.
There's a lot of things we can do to promote/encourage forum use such as securing mobile skinned fora, however that kind of stuff is out of my hands and squarely at the mercy of Seattle. I've requested it, but something like upgrading fora software is an org wide decision that affects more than just CoH.
Social Media is something we (Paragon) have direct control over. It's measurable, it's accessible to everyone and it's tapping into a huge market that we otherwise wouldn't be able to here in our walled garden that is the forums. For example, did you know that social media is huge in Brazil? We can track the number of people who visit the account sign up page from Facebook from a country like Brazil. That number is very interesting to watch, to say the least. To say that we'd be foolish not to do everything we can to have a great engagement on Social Media platforms would be an understatement.
I understand that some of you are *very* resistant to Social Media. People say that Facebook is free...it's not. You pay with your metrics, your clicks, your likes, all of that information that allows companies to more effectively market to you and people who also match your similar demographic. You have to decide if that information is worth the convenience that services like Facebook offer, the ability to connect with people around the world in a moment, to share your life experiences. For me, that answer is yes, to a degree, for some it's no, and I grok that.
I've said this before; we're not going to stop promoting and growing our social media presence. It's not the future, it's the now. Social Media is here and it's a HUGE part of building strong and vibrant Communities. We're not going to stop interacting on the forums, in fact that's the main reason to come to the forums, a direct and more personal way to interact directly with the team that makes CoH. There *will be* exclusive giveaways. There *will be* exclusive media content. For all venues, not just social media. -
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Everything that's been "leaked" has been through our official Twitch channel, not through various media outlets AFAIK. Our official, weekly, live streams are nothing new, and a venue we've been using to introduce new content and upcoming changes for well over a year now. We now have the ability to back these up on our YouTube channel, another official channel.
Nothing that's been discussed has broad Marketing Value. It's all very Community centric and really is something that's only interesting to current/former players of the game. When we're closer to beta, we'll release a full Issue 24 overview (I was just talking to Black Pebble about this today).
And here I thought that the Community would be excited about getting news about upcoming changes prior to the actual announcement.
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Summer Blockbuster Event
- Overwhelming Force's Knockdown proc now functions properly.
- Overwhelming Force enhancements can now be traded at Wentworth's and the Black Market.
- Overwhelming Force enhancements can now be linked in chat.
- Fixed a bug that could prevent attuned enhancements from being able to be slotted by characters of certain levels within the enhancements' intended level ranges. (Overwhelming Force enhancements earned by higher level characters were unusable by lower level characters until they reached the same level as the character who earned the enhancement.)
- In the final Tyrant fight, Lore Pets no longer receive the level shift from defeating Lights of the Well. This was causing Tyrant to be defeated much more quickly than intended.
- Tyrant's Zeus Lightning Bolt will properly affect airborne targets for its entire duration.
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Summer Blockbuster Event
- Overwhelming Force's Knockdown proc now functions properly.
- Overwhelming Force enhancements can now be traded at Wentworth's and the Black Market.
- Overwhelming Force enhancements can now be linked in chat.
- Fixed a bug that could prevent attuned enhancements from being able to be slotted by characters of certain levels within the enhancements' intended level ranges. (Overwhelming Force enhancements earned by higher level characters were unusable by lower level characters until they reached the same level as the character who earned the enhancement.)
- In the final Tyrant fight, Lore Pets no longer receive the level shift from defeating Lights of the Well. This was causing Tyrant to be defeated much more quickly than intended.
- Tyrant's Zeus Lightning Bolt will properly affect airborne targets for its entire duration.
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Since it's after 7:30 PM I'll work on the pics tomorrow. Need to go home to see my kids now.
Thanks to everyone who came out and participated tonight! -
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And round one's winners are...
(Don't forget you can catch the recording on Twitch -OR- on our YouTube Channel)