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Hmm... y'know, one bit of backstory I wouldn't mind seeing expanded on- the Freakshow, despite being a very popular villain group... we really don't know a whole lot about them. Where'd they come from? How'd they get their cybernetics?

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Iirc (Warning: The following post contains spoilers. If you do not want to know, stop reading here.)...



The Freakshow started up when Dreck (and his crew at the time) hit a stash of chemicals (Maybe Supradyne, but I think it was something else.. I want to say something Crey was playing with, but it may well be the Supradyne we've come to know and love), and did some 'sampling' of the merchandise. They found out that the chemicals gave them some pretty wicked-stupid endurance and durability - that they soon realized would let them modify their bodies with cybernetics far beyond what most people would be able to take.

They dope up on the drugs, get their wetware mods, and then procede to have a bit of a party. They're, really, like your standard anti-establishment underground culture focused on rage and anger (possible side-effects of the drug may include...), that are a bit more militant in nature because of their advanced cybernetics that, when combined with their drug of choice, makes them a lot tougher then your standard street thugs (Dare I say... Superhumanly so?).

They're up above most of the other street-punks because their cybernetics (combined with drug use and other violent practices) give them much easier access to the upper-tier of superhuman ability... which is why you see them so late in the game, and why they stay there through the whole run to 50.

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wow. to be honest i never realy liked the freakshow for some reason. But that description made me think they were kinda cool lol. Thtas a interesting backstory imho gonna have to make a solo toon one of these days and actualy do story arcs so i can read this stuff. I always want to stop and read the stories. But unless you got team lead u cant. PLus if you do people start complaining about taking to long...

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Psssst. :3 Ouroboros.

That, and I think a LOT of the major backstory stuff is actually from the CoH Mainsite. But don't quote me on that; I'll verify in a bit. >.>

And so it is.

And, yup. It wasn't Supradyne after all (Thank gosh).

I just love how deep some of the lore stuff is for this game. >.> It's a lot darker then it looks like it should be on the surface.

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Hmm... y'know, one bit of backstory I wouldn't mind seeing expanded on- the Freakshow, despite being a very popular villain group... we really don't know a whole lot about them. Where'd they come from? How'd they get their cybernetics?

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Iirc (Warning: The following post contains spoilers. If you do not want to know, stop reading here.)...



The Freakshow started up when Dreck (and his crew at the time) hit a stash of chemicals (Maybe Supradyne, but I think it was something else.. I want to say something Crey was playing with, but it may well be the Supradyne we've come to know and love), and did some 'sampling' of the merchandise. They found out that the chemicals gave them some pretty wicked-stupid endurance and durability - that they soon realized would let them modify their bodies with cybernetics far beyond what most people would be able to take.

They dope up on the drugs, get their wetware mods, and then procede to have a bit of a party. They're, really, like your standard anti-establishment underground culture focused on rage and anger (possible side-effects of the drug may include...), that are a bit more militant in nature because of their advanced cybernetics that, when combined with their drug of choice, makes them a lot tougher then your standard street thugs (Dare I say... Superhumanly so?).

They're up above most of the other street-punks because their cybernetics (combined with drug use and other violent practices) give them much easier access to the upper-tier of superhuman ability... which is why you see them so late in the game, and why they stay there through the whole run to 50.

>.> Read the thread a few times, and totally blanked on leaving a 'Welcome back ' each time.

Except this time. :3 Glad to hear you're doing somewhat better, man!

... Alls I can say in response:

Oh. My. Goodness.

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The war between the Mu and the Oranbegans.

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That'd be a neat background setting for a Co-Op zone, via Ouroboros or the Midnight Club.

The Mu-Oranbega War:

Someone has gone back in time to attempt to change history in a very unsettling way... the Mu-Oranbega War, historically devestated both sides of the conflict to the point that neither one nor the other had the real strength to carry on. Turning against their own allies, the demons of the Circle of Thorns decimated the Oranbegans when they would show mercy over the last few Mu, sending them out of the demons reach for a time.

Time is starting to shift; Someone has gone back to the time of this war in order to, subtly, carry out the plan that the Oranbegans had shown the presence of mind to abandon, cursing themselves to destruction as well: The genocide of every last descendant of Mu, before they could spread and recover even a portion of their strength.

Arachnos has a bit of investment with the Mu in their current state: While they don't want them to rise up and become a rival nation unto themselves (which would leave the fate of Sharkhed Isle and perhaps the Rogue Isles themselves in question over ownership), but their mystical might and talents have proven quite useful to the organization. And letting the Circle of Thorns become a greater power is also not in the best interests of Arachnos as a whole. Lord Recluse has, on this matter, given his ascent to sending agents back in time to make sure that both sides of the conflict are shattered equally, and that things play out to their foregone conclusion (though, not everyone in the organization is told this /exact/ plan...): The Circle of Thorns and Mu both losing the conflict.

The Midnight Club can't really see a way out of this that wouldn't exactly shake things up worse then they already are, either. The Oranbegans made deals with demons and came back as the servants of the Circle of Thorns. The Mu made dark alliances with Lord Recluse and Arachnos, and if they could so so while still close to the height of their power... or, worse yet, their nation could rise up and become a pillar of evil of it's own volition. While it's against their better judgement, the balance has to be maintained, and the people of Mu and Oranbega have to be sacrificed to maintain order: You have to go back and stop them both, by any means possible, so that no clear winner is on either side.

...randomly.

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I have some that you can have if you want. They taste like almonds.

(The last guy who took them died anyway, but they might still be good...)

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Nuh uh! *Z-snap.* Ain't gettin' in YO' van, candyman!

*Sashays off screen.*

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NO! They taste like boring.

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Dood, that's why you go for the mint flavored ones. At least then it tastes like boring mint, and that's at least better then pure boring is. And it's really effing hard to screw up MINT as a flavor.

That, or you could just try mixing it with other stuff until the anagram of everything piled into it spells something awesome. I mean, how can you go wrong there? It spells something awesome, it's gotta TASTE awesome!

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I know I certainly have refrained from posting NSFW arts!!!

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That begs the question.

Does the absence of evidence, in this context, mean there's an evidence of absence? Or is this a case of an unknown unknown, where we don't know that we don't know that there may be NSFW Rowr arts!

...I'm being random today.

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The abscence of an item does not negate the existence of an item. However the prescence of an item does confirm the existence of an item. The question is is there an abscence of the prescence, or a prescence of the abscence? And can Rowr learn to spell? That is the real question.

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...wut.

I'd argue a view of semantics on that one -

It was vaguely adult in nature, but nothing really beyond a racy magazine cover. Which doesn't even come close to seeing my bar on what I consider adult stuff, but by technical definition..

It was about the farthest thing from explicit (or even anything beyond suggestively adult) I can think of, though, while still fitting a technical definition of adult.

But, again. That's just running circles around semantics, and you're right.

I either need sleep or more coffee at this point, with all my random junk today. O.o

To quote a certain Grand Galactic Inquisitor: IGNORE ME! (But, like. Not literally. Because then I'd be sad forevers and make with the sad fox eyes and nobody wants that. But, like, this particular post has no point unless you're really into odd random discussions with no point.)

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I know I certainly have refrained from posting NSFW arts!!!

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That begs the question.

Does the absence of evidence, in this context, mean there's an evidence of absence? Or is this a case of an unknown unknown, where we don't know that we don't know that there may be NSFW Rowr arts!

...I'm being random today.

*Jots name down on one of her many... MANY... note cards taped to her PC-cube.*

Love that style to death. And on top of that, it's a very well done and elegant piece. Nice score, Spino!

I'm a perfect example of a perfectly reasonable tr-

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Couldn't finish that sentence, sorry. Carry on. o.q

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I post all over the place. Most of the time, I'm just filling time. I can't really think of a better way to fill it, though, then marvelling at the great works that this board produces (though on occasion, I'm feeling less artsy and more thoughtful, and post observational material on one of the other boards).

So, mostly self-amusement. If I, somehow, manage to amuse others in the process, my job is done. Cue capeswish, and dramatic leap into... most likely a wall, because I never pay attention to where I'm going, and I swear those darn walls have it out for me.

Ai-yah.

That's both sad, and more then a little pathetic. :/

I'm still waiting for the day and age in which we're all, yanno. Beyond that sort of tripe.

Can't we all just get along?

Is this, then, what we are reduced to! Sniping at each other across an intarwebz, trading hateful flamez back and forth! And for what! To win an arguement, that in and of itself cannot be w-

I'm terribly sorry, I think my sanity meter clocked off for a second there. Almost tried to give a logical, thoughtful response.

Ah, to be young and stupid again.

Carry on, or don't. Just try to remember it's the internet (lulz).

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Personally, as someone with no capacity to create art (and thus am left with mostly critique when surfing through this particular board. HAHAhaaa. Surfboard), I try to gauge things specifically on whether or not the artist is even asking for critique.

If they're not specifically asking what I see wrong with a piece (in one way or another), I don't really see where I have any right or obligation to tell them where they go wrong. I'm a hypercritical perfectionist; If asked to point out each and every flaw I see in a piece, I could likely come off as a complete and utter jerk. Provided I could even figure out how to word things to relate, in specific, what exactly is 'off'.

However, just because I notice these things, doesn't mean I should necessarily state it. I limit myself to the stuff I notice in the first 30 seconds of review of a piece (or more, depending on size and composition), because frankly that's the kind of thing that the average person is going to notice. I'm not average in my attention to detail, and I'm aware of it (I spend so long fussing over details I'm not even going to pretend I'm normal).

That said, because I focus so much on the details of this, that, or the other thing, I can usually find something redeeming in just about every work done by the majority of the average member of the art community as a whole, even if I don't like their style or that piece in particular. And if I see something that particularly stands out on a finished piece, or a WIP that someone's showing off (or asking for help on their stuff), I'll point it out. Mostly, because I feel positive reinforcement helps just as much as negative reinforcement does insofar as artistic growth, and not every critique needs to be scathing, wordy, and/or an in-depth analysis. >.>

...But I'm going way off on a tangent and just rambling now so I'm going back to my basket to chill out and munch Fritos. :3

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Yes, a "real" Rowr Doll should support Firefox and adhere to modern standards. (There's a reason the star trek page references IE 5 as a requirement. The page is OLD.) Forgive me if I laugh at the conceit that Safari matters enough for anyone to LOL at phailing on it.

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A real Rowr doll would do all sorts of things in the hands of the pervs here.

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That sounds almost like a confession. :3c

(This post brought to you by Random Compulsion, Inc. and The Poor Impulse Control Corporation.)

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I am not a person. I am a concept. That concept is "awesome".

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*Considers Foo. Considers the Etch-A-Sketch she uses to determine what people (and/or concepts) are.*

Results hazy, try again later.

...Wait a minute!

*Hangs sign on post - 'Currently experiencing technical difficulties'*

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I just assume that all the girl toons are Guys IRL, but I try to treat ppl by thier avatar and not by knowing what they are underneath.

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>.> I treat everyone as blank slates in somewhat vaguely genderized forms (Though, it's hard to tell with a blank slate. I mean, it's blank, by definition. THE MIND! IT BOGGLES!) until later information fills in the details as necessary (preferably with silly string, 'cuz that's the only stuff that really sticks well to slate that doesn't cost a lot!).

...What? I don't always have a point, darnit. Points're DANGEROUS!

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Honestly? I didn't realize until I read the post just how much of that was actually edit work.

Heck, I thought besides some minor work on the background (namely the explosion), that the piece itself was just a screenshot.

Solid work, dear sirrah.

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Now if only there was a visual sound for that old Steve Austin bionic noise!

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Nanananananananananananananananana!

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Lol I'm drawing a comparison between different practices, not characterizing the entire 3d world. I am a 3d artist. I said it's a common practice and in certain segments of the 3d community it is--look at the volume of meshes, texture packs, props, etc. that are on the market.

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Doesn't necessarily make it any more or less 'lazy' then any other form of art.

Photography, in particular. All you do is line up a shot. That can't be that hard, right? On the surface, no, it doesn't seem like it is.

In reality... getting a GOOD shot has a ton of factors to it, and a lot of people (and professional photographers) can go through entire reels without any useable shots (sometimes because the people you do the shots for are picky sods), or get maybe 5-6 that are worth any real value (Again, people, picky sods, same drill).

My only real point is generalizations are stupid, whether something is a common practice or not. And it's somewhat insulting to use them when (if) you're trying to be objective.

(Sidebar: Technically, that's a generalization. Take that as you will.)

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A 3d artist uses someone else's mesh, somebody else's props, maybe textures and/or default lighting and that's ...not lazy?

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Normally, I just sort of avoid this thing, because I don't tend to care, nor do I really have an opinion (though I pick up things to remember when I do eventually go into the commission zone, thus the reading - The more you know!), but I sort of disagree with this.

Mostly, because I know a LOT of people that create their own props, textures, and so on. Not every 3d Artist does this, and it's usually a point of interest to ask (and could be rude considering how you do so), but it's asinine to assume that just because a few do, that everyone does.

That's akin to saying that a lot of people trace, copy, or borrow/retouch-up other people's backgrounds all the time. You cannot, and should not, apply broad generalizations to an entire group of anyone, regardless of the circumstances.

And, on that note, I saunter out again.

*Breaks out the popcorn.*

Server downtime has never been so fun.

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I give this piece an "A" for "ample".

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And a T for terrific.

...What? I just felt this piece needed both T and A.