Anti_Proton

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I can *almost* see the point being made against the 60 month VetReward. As I'm reading through the feedback, the arguments make sense on the surface - this does indeed allow a Veteran to potentially dispense with a power in a tight build that he/she woudl otherwise have been forced to take, a build advantage that could create a gulf between haves and have-nots.

However, let's look at the four travel powers. The obvious weak cases are Flight and Super Jump, since temp power analogs of these can already be easily obtained and maintained forever by doing any of a number of things (spending real money, spending inf, doing an Ouroboros arc - if redside - and even just logging off in the right spot). Those temp powers create an even larger build issue if you argue it on these merits, since they allow you to skip not only the prereq but the power itself if you're so minded.

So let's look at the two you can't easily replace with temp powers - Teleport and Super Speed. Teleport temp powers are rare and to the best of my knowledge not possible to attain on a permanent basis (for one Siren's Call has to be in your faction's control, and the other is a villain-only temp that's not renewable - yet, anyway). Furthermore, the 60-month reward allows the much beloved Hover-Teleport combo to unlock with only two power choices rather than three. This is I think the strongest case, since Veterans already have acces to a team teleport power and therefore may not think much of dropping Recall Friend given the opportunity. The alternative, Teleport Foe, is useful but often situational. I can see a great many teleport-using characters dropping the prereq for something more useful.

Then there's Super Speed. With IOs, the stealth portion of the power can be attained with any number of other powers, so that's hardly a concern. And as for skipping the prereqs, the prereq that's overwhelming chosen here is Hasten, and I don't see that vanishing from many builds that are using it now.

So, I can see a case for a clear Veteran game-changing advantage in only one of the four travel power pools. But this is mitigated by the fact that a non-Veteran, if so minded, can create an even larger build advantage by relying on temp powers for travel rather than using a travel power pool at all. Yes, this reward is significant, but I don't feel it's game-breaking in light of the temp powers available to all players.

As for it acting as a negative for the retention of new players who feel they can't catch up, in my experience people who get upset because they can't have something RITE NAO usually get bored once they do have it. Just my opinion of course, but I suspect anyone the game loses over an issue like this they'd have lost in any case.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm going to agree with Justaris on this.

When I first read the announcement, I thought that the 60-month reward was too much, but then I sat down and looked at my 50+ alts. In most cases, it really doesn't "free up" another power slot. In fact, in several cases, I took the pre-reqs from more than one pool and I am using both of them.

Folks are assuming that vets will never take a pre-req again and will therefore always have an extra power pick - and that just really isn't the case.

Travel faster at level 6? Not really, unslotted Fly isn't better than the Raptor Pack. I have no numbers to support myself, but I suspect that unslotted Superjump or Superspeed won't be all that much faster either at level 6, and at least Superspeed will still have the disadvantage of being stuck on the ground (no hunting CoT on the rooftops of KR).

At best, the reward probably changes the order in wich I pick powers, delaying the pick of the pre-req to a later level. But since the lower levels go by kinda fast, in terms of the passage of playing time, it won't really delay it all that much, since I still want the use of the pre-req sooner rather than later.

[/ QUOTE ]

Well yes and no on the extra power. A lot of folks would have rather not have had to chose hover or combat jumping (for example) since although they have that defense aspect, it's really not that good to warrent having to take the whole power just to have. Now then there was the - to hit in fly, lots of folks took hover to retain acc while in the air.

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
*does the "that's so badass" dance*

Unlock Tier 1, 2 and 3 travel powers at level 6?

Flight without Hover? Superspeed without Hasten? Teleport without Recall Friend?

Baaaaaaaad. Can you dig it?

[/ QUOTE ]This is huge. Extremely huge. This is too good to be true. This is the best reward ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

[/ QUOTE ]

Can you say "MASSIVE RESPECS"!

Wow they make up for the weak-sauce of the 57 month with the 60 month. I mean most vets have so many free tailor tokens no one actually pays anymore.

/Signed

PS: And I thought I thought too much about this game!

I am still saddened by the fact that we haven't seen a CG trailer since, the now defunct, City of Hero.

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
...and whoever is scripting the "emote-acting" is doing a great job

[/ QUOTE ]
AND drawing in the mouths! That's what's really impressing me to no end! (If it's BAB doing it, I expect we'll have mouth movements on some of our emotes in I14. )

P.S. The link on the announcement page to this topic is in HTML instead of UBB.

P.P.S. Suuuuure is easier to post links to other topics over in those neeeeeew boards, isn't it? Suuuuuuuure would be nice to start heading over there.... <ahem>

[/ QUOTE ]

Mouth movements / Facial expressions FTW!

[ QUOTE ]
I've been having alot of fun mixing and matching the Cyborg and now Valkyrie booster back costume peices. Jacobi Law got a fresh new look this week...... Jacobi's new digs. If you know what Jacobi looked like before, the change is not that extreme.

I'd love to see other peoples use of the Cyborg and Valyrie packs that use peices to make other original looks. Please feel free to post your screenies here!

[/ QUOTE ]

I ran into you the other night with my Stormy the Weather Mistress. Looked good I think I mentioned.

I could have sworn that this was stickied at one time.

I said it once and I'll say it again. What this game needs is a zone where heroes and villains can REALLY cut loose and cause real damage to EVERYTHING!

Will we be getting the fuzzy boots and gloves again?

I guess no CG anymore

[ QUOTE ]
I'm feeling a little poorly today... *koff* koff* Downright ill in fact. I might have to leave *koff* work a little early today and work on my shield tanker.

I'm looking forward to trying out all the new features -- including the new PvP stuff. Contrary to what some have said, it sounds like it will make the experience much better for most of us -- fewer PVPFOTM builds dominating the PVP zones.

Actually, the only downside to this issue I can suss out is that I'll have to log in all my alts tonight and move them to their appropriate Day Job locations before I can start playing my new tank!

-Buxley

[/ QUOTE ]

See, my thoughts exactly. Log on, move everyone around, create a Shielder and a Painer, check some of the changes to powers (Try new Invuln), Respec like crazy, try out PvP, ect., ect.. The pain, it hurts so good!

Wife picking up daughter from daycare today, me going straight home! WOOHOO!

Ok Day Job costumes. Do we sacrifice a costume slot for them? Is there are built-in way to switch into and out of them (spring into action) or is it time to make more macros?

[ QUOTE ]

Hopefully the magic pack will have some Dr. Strange/Spawn high collar full flowing cloaks. I wonder what kind of bonus power there gonna have for it.

[/ QUOTE ]

I am almost willing to bet on it. High collars that is.

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Most of the negative feedback over flight poses is that they don't stick, and that you can't set the Hover poses (and, again, have them stick.)


[/ QUOTE ]

You gotta go back to the original comments on them, when they were random or cycled through the options sequentially. Even today, some of you guys have strong feelings about certain flight poses (or all of the current options) not fitting the image of their character that they have in their noggin. I would expect walks to elicit much the same type of response. Compounding that is aside from making a different walk for the male, female, and huge body types the possiblity of doing multiple styles of walking for each is so un-feasible it's essentially impossible.

[/ QUOTE ]

What I had hoped for with the fly poses was that when picking flight for a character a window would open with a list of the poses and a pic of each so we could choose a default flight pose for that character. Since they made them into emotes I don't even bother with them, and have very rarely seen any other flying characters using anything other than the standard default pose. It would probably be the same with walk emotes. If people can't set the one they want for thier default walk then they would rarely get used.

[/ QUOTE ]

Me personally, I have a macro set up on all my flyers but an option to change the default would be nice. I think options for every mode of travel would be nice and not just a QoL issue, but a way of adding even more uniqueness to our characters.

Welcome Snaps.

Welcome Sunstorm and just remember, we kick you because we love you.

[ QUOTE ]
It seems like requests to just "walk" has been around since the beginning of CoH, and renewed every couple of weeks or so. But for some reason, it's kinda like asking Mircrosoft to separate Internet Explorer from Windows...it just WON'T be done.

[/ QUOTE ]

Fixed that for ya.

"Bottom line, it rewards those who put in no effort and punishes those that have .."

What effort would that be? Playing the game?

From what I am reading, Shields seems to be geared more to the Tank play-style.

There are always "other" features to each update. Even the Arena had other stuff along with it.

I hope PvP becomes, "If I gotta die, Im taking some of you with me".

A bit of a rehash, but it will go a long way to promote optimism.

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Also, why do we have to recycle everything? Why do we have to have a "Positron" and "Ghost Widow" in Cimeroa? It would be nice to just get some new characters involved in the storylines without making them just reincarnations of existing characters.

[/ QUOTE ]

It all has something to do with the whole "Pandora's Box thing" I hope that eventually we see hope all the powers got into the box.

[/ QUOTE ]

Another tidbit I just remembered from the HeroCon panels. They had the time period. They had the zone: Cimerora. So Joe "Hero 1" Morrissey wanted write about Pandora's Box. But it got rejected. When they do bring it into the game they want it to be EPIC. It was from the Q&A period in the panel with the City of ... writers.

[/ QUOTE ]

This PLEASE!