American_Valor

LH it was good to meet you and I will say Aloha.

May your Light shine forth and uncover the evils that hide in the darkness, Further adventures awaits you.

American Valor

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Not sure but I think its totally cool, we gather at 8:30 pm EST in Talos on Liberty

Name: American Valor
Global Contact: @American Valor
Level of Classification: Level 50 Tank INV/SS
Origin: Natural
Super Rank & Super Group: Sentinel Of Liberty Sg rank 84

between 170 and 190 characters in the Id block.

Valor

What everyone already said, so what are you waiting for DR?

Oh one thing that wasn't mentioned the Forum is PG13 nuff said.

Valor

Okay after being here since the begining I do see all sides, and I have to commend NCsoft for listening to us and making the jetpack available. We as a community have been asking for one and we finally have several available to us.

We have the Raptor Pack available to us from about lvl 5 to 10 safeguard missions and if used conservatively can easily allow you a temp movement power till 20, not including the zero g jump pack.

We have the Jump pack from good and evil temp power which if used in conjuction with other powers gets you where you need to be, a temp style flight if used with zero g jump pack for instance.

We have the Christmas Jingle Jet, one of the Sentinel favorite temp powers a 30 day jetpack with awesome holiday sound effects.

Now we have the Rental Pack 30 day temp power 5 bucks a month. This is bonus, would I have liked to see this as a one time purchase sure, would I have liked to see it as a recipe icon piece sure, are those both still possible yes.

Has NCsoft listen to all of us and did what is in best interest to them, COx and the players I think so.

The Cyborg pack is a nice addtion to the game like the Wedding pack it offers lots of fun things and should be considered a good value for the price.

Which brings up when was the last time you purchased a upgrade to the game itself. GvE issue ?

We have many of free issues and Issue 13 plans to be huge, and free if I understand corectly since I last checked.

15 a month, or 20 with the rent a Jet as wanted or needed overall is pretty good people. Looking foward to Issue 13 I have a base to finish building

Valor

Wow Well well, Hi Bruce,
Welcome to COH, And you thought you had a handful with us judges long ago.

Okay most of my questions were answered reading what happened since...

Can we expect storyarc's that have a direct result based on our heroic actions, Will more of the content be story driven to include main ideas?

As Rob use to say, Be A Hero!

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Wow Liz those are amazing!
I love the way you captured the faces and brought them to life.

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Yep Agree with that I Do
Awesome work

Valor

Like you said it depends, I have lots of Natural characters, so lots of time its sometype of injection or other medical description dealing with medic kit and the medical pool.

I have also used food items like powerup energy bars and drinks between battles.


Valor

YEA I couldn't have asked for a better replacement.

Everyone Lets give a cheer and show our support to Vaxin and the entire PERC Team,

Three Cheers for

OUR PERC LIBERTY REP's

Steele Magnolia
DJ Dazzler
Vaxin

Huzza!
Huzza!
Huzza!

em clap!

Looking foward to greatness from you guys!

Valor

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Quick note: Don't think for a moment that those upcoming competitors won't have higher system requirements than COH. People understandably get upset when an update causes their performance to go down on their machines, and I don't know about you but I've got a lot of friends who are playing on older or less powerful machines who are still playing COH, settings turned down, because they like it so much (low FPS and all). They won't be able to play those competitors, guaranteed. If they could've upgraded their machines (or bought new ones), they would've done so already.

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Too true. My husband likes to try other games, currently he's playing Conan. That game's storage requirements are so big it wouldn't fit in the space left on his harddrive. To keep his current games AND play Conan... he bought a large, separate harddrive and now runs all his games on THAT while running all his other programs off his old harddrive.

Me, I'm sticking to COH, and always have for the last 4 years.

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Because pissing off 100 to 600 players for something the develops had left broken without any early warnings is a good thing?



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They had warnings. The IO's are labled unique so anyone who slotted multiple copies pretty much had to know that they where using an exploit that would go away. Fortunately the devs are being nice and warning players about it rather than just rolling it live like they do for the typical exploit fix.

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Yes they alwys fix ingame versus forum Text so that players are aware that an ingame item works as intended.

Vet reward Black staff and Nemesis Staff description matchs the text exactly Hmm lets check shall we. It doesn't so if I slot a unique twice and it works I should believe what, ingame box text is wrong and its a bug, or the no forum listing until the patch fix comes about and I get nailed.

I think I have maybe two uniques on my main character and they aren't even the same. This doesn't affect me but that doesn't mean better communication isn't needed. Thats my point.

AV

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3. Convenience: For those out of Trial Respecs and Vet Respecs with no Freespec or Vetspec in sight, no high level character to earn currency, noone in game to give them currency, or no desire to use Wentworths/Black Market this will be a convenience.



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How in the world are you out of respecifications? I think I have used all of 5 total across 60+ characters since the game went live.

Freespecs

Posi already answered this above. Freespecs are going no where.

::Sheesh::

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Just because you have not used yours to balance a character or felt the need to not want to waste IO's or Hami's doesn't mean others don't use there respec.

I'm glad to see they are still going to award the freerespec, but how often can we expect to get it plus you can only have 1 freerespec available at a time, three respec from the TF trial, and then your Vet rewards.

My math = 4 respec plus any Vetspec you may have earned if you havent used any on that character. Not sure how many Vetspecs their are but probably not more than 10.

I wouldn't buy a respec unless I had no other option and then I still might not.

AV

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I think temp powers should be temporary. This pack is a nice gift for a new player just starting out that paid double what they could have got from a bargain bin. Then it's gone like their money, but hopefully the player will stay and use a real travel power.

No permanent temp powers!!! It's oxymoronic!

Jer

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technically, doesn't our permanent unslottable "origin" power appear as a temp?

Of course, I agree with you, but just sayin

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I'd be fine if it was gone at level 10 like originally designed. Someone probably cried about losing the ranged brawl damage, so now it's permanent.

To want every character one ever makes to be able to fly from level 1 through the tutorial to level 50 and forever is like asking for a pony and a pony NOW! Get over it.

All the jet packs should expire, unless they make it a custom costume piece tied in with taking flight and its prerequisite from the flight pool. Costume pieces are cool. Buying powers instead of earning them is lame.

Jer

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Buying powers like the St. Louis Slammer, Gabriel's Hammer, Revolver and Ethereal Shift? I'm in full support of having the new jet pack be a new costume item only. That would work just fine. New accounts get a temp power and existing accounts get a new costume item or both accounts get a temp power that eventually becomes a costume item after 30 days. Sign me up!

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QFT

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LH
I believe we understand the intent to bring in new customers. On that same note "The Community" has been asking for JETPACKS for several years now. We were given the jingle jet for the holidays which is one of the most popular items, then we were given the Raptor Pack with the safeguards / mayhem missions.

Now you are offering JETPACKS but not to your current customer base it may be considered an incentive to bring in new customers. I find it mildly insulting for you to say "We understand the interest in the jetpack..." Thats an understatement.

I was modeling it last night in Atlas park and it generated alot more than an interest, and that wasn't even during peak game time.

I would once again ask you to continue looking into JETPACKS for your current customer base in some fashion.
Nuff said.

Valor

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Get Fly.

Nuff said.

(And I'd love to see vets get a jinglejet at some point, just not with this degree of entitlement that I've been reading here.)

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weather or not I have fly is not the point of this discussion. This is about the new Game Card and the new temp power JetPack.

Its a great idea and I support it fully in the aspect they intend to use it to get new customers to replace the vets and others who eventually move to the next great thing. Some come back, some don't. I haven't left yet maybe I will someday, but until then I would like to enjoy the game the way I enjoy it without being a burden to you and your style of play.

At lvl 50 if I want a lvl1 character that flies out of the gate I have to be a PB. Or I have to wait until I get hover at 6, raptor from safeguard, or if during the holidays jingle jet, which I happen to think is a awesome holiday item, and would like it to remain so.

Why do you think It is linked to some type of entitlement. We as a community have been wanting a jetpack for our hero concepts weather with a temp fly power attached or a receipt like rocket boots for sometime.

Thanks for the bandwith
Valor

LH
I believe we understand the intent to bring in new customers. On that same note "The Community" has been asking for JETPACKS for several years now. We were given the jingle jet for the holidays which is one of the most popular items, then we were given the Raptor Pack with the safeguards / mayhem missions.

Now you are offering JETPACKS but not to your current customer base it may be considered an incentive to bring in new customers. I find it mildly insulting for you to say "We understand the interest in the jetpack..." Thats an understatement.

I was modeling it last night in Atlas park and it generated alot more than an interest, and that wasn't even during peak game time.

I would once again ask you to continue looking into JETPACKS for your current customer base in some fashion.
Nuff said.

Valor

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Keep in mind that the game card revenue is getting shared to some degree with the retailer. So NCSoft is losing locked in revolving subscription revenue when veteran players switch to buying game cards. So a temp power is not really inappropriate as a perk. If the power were permanent, then it would have to be a value add, at added cost, just like the Special edition DVD (slide sprint power) or the wedding pack.
While the idea of walking into target and buying in-game powers and costume pieces has some appeal, NCSoft would have to offset the retailers markup. That would mean that they would have to charge more like 25$ or more per one month play card to break even. At that level it makes more sense for them to give away bonus powers to members who are on autopay.
As and alternate they could roll out something like NC Coins in CoX and keep all of that 10$ difference for themselves, to put back into game development. I know which gets my vote.
That is not to say the idea of promoting the game card sales by inflating the initial uptake is without merit, it just may cost NCSoft more than some of you anticipated. And you don't grow a church by preaching to the choir, you do it by converting new followers.

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There is no loss of time and just because you use a time card doesn't remove you from autocredit pay it just extends your game play expire date by 30/60/90/180/ or yearly.

I have been doing a mix of both since game inception on mutipile accounts. I am geek enough to have all options and up grades on my accounts.

We as a community have been asking for Jetpacks for a long while. Where I agree and think it is a nice incentive to have it available to new players, As a long time Vet I like creating new characters. Paying for 30 days of time and getting a temp power which isn't actually properly described ingame as a 30 day temp power is very misleading. Not all players use and read the forum boards, and New players to an MMO may not even know they exist for some time especially if they go from trial period to paying costumer.


I would like to see the current player base be rewarded with a Jetpack receipe of sometype for those of us who would prefer that to rocket boots.

Just my two inf worth.
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Wow I like the jetpack, very disappointed I only get to keep it for 30 days. I guess I should have read all the really small print.

Great gimic worked for my main account. I will not be upgrading my other accounts like I preiviously thought. It made for a nice gift to a friend but she will be disappointed also when I tell her its only good for 30 days, like the jingle jet pack.

Looks like I will have to delete the two new character I made since after 30 days they no longer match there names of Jetpack and JetPack Envy At least my friend won't waste a character slot on our main server.

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Slightly disappointed about the jetpack

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CoH - Retail x2
CoH - Collectors x2
CoV x2
Pocket D TP/Jump Jet Pack x2
Wedding Pack x2

I don't feel I wasted my money and have no animosity at all about expanding the full game to everyone.

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Agree with Steele, Sounds like an about time news and looking foward to writing my own heroic script.

Valor

Once again Very Good and awesome work

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Would make for an excellent speeder style hero thats for sure

As for the Staff/Wand natural thing I'm taking it to the experts. Still gonna hit test and do some creating to test it myself.

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Nice announcement.

3 other Villains helms to complete the collection in icon. as for the question of the recycling of prievious Vet powers vs adding new and or the natural being uber with two ranged attacks, Um No.

Being able to select Axe over Sands was always an animation issue both are great powers.

Staff is for Natural Tech and Science to get bonus

Wand is for Magic and Mutant to get bonus

Natural doesn't get to double dip any more than any other AT set who could chose both for ranged, but only one of the items would get the bonus damage for matching your AT.


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Actually if memory is working right:

Science/Tech/Natural =Nemesis Staff buff

Mutant/Magic/Natural =Black Wand Buff

So yes Natural can "Double dip"

Edit: here's the text from the Vet Reward Page for the 33 month badge that offers Nem/Blackwand choice:

"The Nemesis staff is a steam-powered staff that shoots bolts of energy that deal damage, and knocks back foes. Characters of Science, Technology, or Natural, origin get a bonus to their damage when using this power. Damage: Moderate. Recharge: Long.

The Blackwand is a black metal wand that feels cold in the hand, and glows with dark arcane energies. It decreases the chance enemies will hit you when they are affected by it’s magics. When used by those of Magic, Natural, or Mutant origin, it increases the potency of its attacks. Damage: Moderate. Recharge: Long."

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Wow thats interesting , however the Vet announcement page is actually wrong and wasn't fixed. screenshot as of today of the ingame text.

33 month Vet Reward

It would have been cool if you could, as I have too many Natural Style Heroes. sorry guys thems the facts.

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Nice announcement.

3 other Villains helms to complete the collection in icon. as for the question of the recycling of prievious Vet powers vs adding new and or the natural being uber with two ranged attacks, Um No.

Being able to select Axe over Sands was always an animation issue both are great powers.

Staff is for Natural Tech and Science to get bonus

Wand is for Magic and Mutant to get bonus

Natural doesn't get to double dip any more than any other AT set who could chose both for ranged, but only one of the items would get the bonus damage for matching your AT.

The Vet powers aren't temporary they do have a slightly longer recharge then I would like but they are friggin awesome.

And finally Bonus taken away I don't get. I had the wolf helm, now I get the other three, in a little while so how am I losing my bonus for preordering? I just picked up the other three helms I didn't have, not lose the one I did have.

Good stuff Dev's.

How about for the 57 month Vet badge (weapon rack)vet power we see Iron Sword or Holy Shotgun.

and

60 month Vet badge (the Traveler) travel power Raptor pack or Zero G pack

just thoughts is all

Valor of the Vets

Nice Work.

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Comic Con, San Diego, CA
July 23rd to July 27th

Use this thread to discuss specifically about Comic Con and interest and details about a possible Meet & Greet Event.

Regards,

Ex

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NO I'm going to Origins Game Fair Convention link , where I'll be running Championss the role playing game 5th ed. You guys should be there its like GEN CON except in Ohio.

I'll miss you guys. I wish I could be there with you all. Have Fun Ex and the NCsoft crew. Those who go will have a blast.

Also anyone heading to Origins shoot me a pm if I have time maybe we canmeet up at the con and Chat.

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Love your guide. Well thought out and put together nicely and nice to see the update.

Valor