Xanthus_EU

OH MAN PENDANT BATTLES HELL YEAH I WAS GETTIN BORED OF ALL THE OTHER KINDS

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If Xanthus has a defender that he would like to challenge me with in the Arena I will be more than willing to accept that challenge

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Ok sure, I've got a defender. He's on Defiant though, along with the majority of my characters. Can you use the test server? I'm free pretty much most nights except thursdays and saturdays, assuming that I can use my housemates PC as mine is currently broken.

When I said "you", I wasn't directing the comment at you specifically; more at the people who are prone to whine after they get killed in a PvP zone in a way that they think is "unfair". I suppose I could have phrased myself a little better.

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B): You couldn't kill me solo if you wanted to because you would not be able to catch me.

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Bet?

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We'll see how well you enjoy a PvP zone with a pack of blasters double-forted and Quad-Cm'd consistently targeting you and making sure you repeatedly faceplant just on leaving the safety of the Arachnos Drones ,...

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They could try, but for a start I wouldn't be on my own. And I don't play villains.

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A massive post from mothers love about INTERNET HONOUR

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Look how stupid you are. The rules in a PVP zone are "If you can shoot at it, and you aren't using an exploit to do so, nothing is against the rules".

But hey, if you want to whine about "honour and JUSTICE" while I'm killing you go ahead. It only makes it more entertaining for me, in the end. In fact, I'm more likely to hunt out and kill people who are complaining about being ganked because they've been working towards a badge all day.

hell yea paragon defenders are kickin it at number 34 - the best spot in the table!

rad/psi wins the tournament callin it now

make it 8pm

also yes my PC is broken, i'm stealing my housemates

I know it's a bit short notice but lets do some pvp on DEFIANT tonight. We'll probably kick things off in RV or warburg or somewhere before moving to the Arena for some team fights or something.

golden girl if you did a base raid against us it would be the best thing ever

also we can only field like 4 guys so these raids will have to be pretty small - that said we're pretty good at pvp so if anyone else wants to bring more people they can go ahead

Not particularly amazing. Your secondary tries to do too much without doing anything well, and your primary has basically no damage with the exception of Cosmic Burst.

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i actually think lui is a pretty cool guy

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Remind me again, are you the "Good" Xanthus twin or the "Evil" Xanthus twin?

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There's a Good Xanthus now? When did that happen?

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I'm the real Xanthus. I changed my name for a stupid joke in Golden Crusaders "Watch out for the inf sellers!" thread a while back in general discussion and while it was changed someone else theived my name and started pretending to be me.

You can tell that I'm telling the truth about who I am though, because I have the "S4 Defiant Bantamweight Champion" title and the other guy doesn't.

i actually think lui is a pretty cool guy

frozen aura is the best aura

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Fair enough. But making a stab at Grand Senei Kakashi, Disco and Myself (all SG members and friends)

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Ok, well I didn't mean to come off as particularly offensive, i was just making a jibe at someone who's obviously quite a large fan of Naruto (at least, large enough to emulate one of the characters in a videogame and then play that character for a substantial amount of time).

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37ish + heroes trying out a hami raid, you charging in, shouting pancakes

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I wasn't trying to shout, but ok. Honestly, you should see the US hami raids - my one or two lines of chat are nothing compared to them.

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I was just surprised, ran plenty of mothership raids with you and respect you as a player. Just made the hami raid even more unpleasant for me

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....I've never actually done a mothership raid. I don't think I've even spent more than 20 minutes in the crash site at any one time (I'm probably missing out on stuff here), although perhaps you know me from somewhere else.

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Not sure if this applied to anyone else, but seeing anything from you in broadcast would have been very hard after having /ignored you for being as abusive as you were.

Perhaps the helpful pointers were just thinly disguised under abusive and unhelpful outbursts.

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what.

I said something along the lines of "does anyone here like pancakes?" when i first came into the hive, and then I believe I said "disco do you want to be friends forever" and then "Sam is the best name".

Point out for me where the abusive part is?

edit: ok i did shout HEY GUYS IM XANTHUS WHATS UP on request when i first came into the hive but really how abusive is that?

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One thing the guide that we used to make the raid plan didn't mention was the stuns we would get. It never was mentioned that tanks and scrappers would get stunned.

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Actually, if you read my guide I specifically say that Hamidon and the Mitos will mez over any status protection, so everyone needs a TON of CM or other mez protection buff.

Also you wouldn't have killed a mito anyway. Like i said at least three times on broadcast during the raid, and once during a tell to you, you NEED to have a team attacking the green mitos at the same time as the yellows are being attacked so that the greens don't just insta-heal all the damage off the yellows.

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Sure you dont...

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I don't..... I don't even PvP on villains at all, only play them occasionally in PvE.

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freeze ray following AS is the only thing that will give you a few seconds

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what, how? unless the stalker is stupid and for some reason isn't running his mez protection nothing will happen apart from a piddly amount of damage. If you get AS'd, run away. It's really that simple - there's no rule that says YOU MUST STAND AND FIGHT NO MATTER WHAT HP YOU'RE CURRENTLY ON.

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Funny thing is though look how many people actually posted saying there balanced who play stalkers to pvp, ironic really.

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Except me. I've said at least twice I don't use stalkers, but why does that make my opinion more worthwhile than someone who does?

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Anyway had enough of stalker flames for today, when you guys can fairly pvp, roll a charecter that actually needs some skill to play.

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If you want to talk about skill, I'd place myself and my SG in the top 5 (if not top 3) arena teams going at the moment. Perhaps not at the top, but certainly good enough to at least compete against them. If you want proof, we'll quite happily meet you on the Test server (since we're defiant based for the most part) for a few matches - you name the terms. You're just using the "omg u hav no skill" argument because we're all telling you something you don't want to hear. Are you going to make a post about how inspirations are overpowered next because blasters use reds to two-shot you?

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I give up, doesnt look like im getting through to anyone who doesnt love to pvp with stalkers :/

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except i don't play stalkers in pvp and i still think you're dumb.

edit: freeze ray after you get AS'd? what?!

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Ok despite the hate im going to get from the stalker community and I know its been said so many times before but how long before its actually possible to pvp with a hero?

I mean any player stands no chance against an equal level stalker no matter what AT/Powers they are, yes i have tested this, Blasters the apparent 'stalker killers' with Devices secondary power 'Targeting Drone' vs any stalker still has no chance because even if by some miracle (and a buttload of yellow insps) you manage to see them, they just either run till insps run out thus remain invisible or have enough resists to get close, use placate and not give you much of a chance to fight back.

It seems the only class with half a chance is mastermind and thats only because pets dont lose agro and without bodyguard mode your still going down to a well played stalker.

Rumor i heard yesterday is the GM's even pvp with stalkers because other classes dont stand a chance.
I mean come on, I understand how difficult PVP balancing is, but it really does need some attention sometime soon.
*whining off*

Ok to fix the problem the suggestions I have are as follows and should be done on a one or the other basis in my opinion as not to overkill, and I strongly personally recommend 1 and 2 together over all the rest.

1) Since stalkers have such an extreme damage output, remove the resists to status effects, they should not have resists if they can kill most classes in two hits anyway in equal level/slots.
2) Make +perception vs Hide ratio a little more balanced so you actually have a chance to see them with so called 'Stalker killers'
3) Change how Hide works, basically make there be a chance (lowerer without +proc) to see stalkers in a certain range, this one would be a big change so if it was implemented then would need to increase the stalkers defence a bit to give them a fighting chance. Idea i had was a 10%-15% chance without +proc and between 30%-40% with +proc (difference with +proc substantial because not many classes support it and would still be fairly equal because each target in combat would still have half a chance to win or lose, so stalkers not overkilled)
4) Reduce the damage output, despite how much damage they deal and at the minute it is a problem but as damage dealers this should be a last resort, I personally am not in favour of this one because i think it would be overkill but nevertheless its still an option.

Please post any thoughts on this matter, or suggestions to make PVP viable to something on heroes side again.

I would like to hear from a red name regarding this if possible too and there current view of the situation and if there is any problem in there eyes.

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look how stupid you are

PvP never has been, and never WILL be balanced for solo play. City Of Heroes/Villains is a game primarily geared towards teaming up with a variety of ATs in the team. Stalkers are the easiest class to play in PvP, but if you're letting them AS you a lot (particularly if you're letting the same guy do it to you more than once), you're doing something VERY VERY wrong.


p.s. Extremus and I have been fighting in the arena since before you even played the game. That said, we've never fought a team of entirely stalkers because nobody has been retarded enough to bring one against us - even a pretty poor pvp team would absolutely tear them apart as long as they had an empath that could keep clear mind on them.

There's a few things on there I agree with and a few I don't think really need attention, but for the most part it's good.

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spines is used most for the range as well, and dark melee is lacking because it doesnt have a proper build up.

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This. Spines doesn't have the highest damage by a long way, but it's way easier to kill mobile targets with spines compared to a melee set.

Also DM has retardedly huge animation times on all its good attacks (well ok, shadow maul, but that's a massive part of the DPS) so it makes the whole set worthless really when combined with the lack of build up.

i honestly can't believe i read all this

kerensky please lock this crappy topic

damn i was hoping to combo up two whole pages all by myself

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