X_treme

[ QUOTE ]

Plus if AoW or shamen x or any of the other hero teams wanna take me and my posse down then bring it on, i ant afraid to get ganked by heros.


[/ QUOTE ]

wud be happy to anytime u want a fight just send me a pm, wud be happy to help u and give u tips after each battle too

imaginary u didnt post a corruptor

i think its the hardest choice with the front runners being sonic, thermal or kin, all have gr8 buffs and debuffs

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

However.. the downside of the villans pendat is the fact that I an honestly say that it was 5 hero's V 4 Villas, as the MM's were pretty much out of the game with there pet setup, this is NOT a fault with the player but within the game mechanics. and this is due to change in issue7 Im sure.


[/ QUOTE ]

More like 5v3 imo

TBH i felt sorry for the stalkers. Against a team with an empath theres not much they can do from what I seen last night.

[/ QUOTE ]

And you are wrong. The diferrence between the stealth cap and the perception cap is 10 yds. It doesnt matter how many cm's they have when you can add grant invis on the other side.

[/ QUOTE ]

I being a stalker that found it kinda rough last night in the tournament. Have to disagree abit with you.

Even if I cap my stealth, that leaves the 10 yards. These 10 yards are plenty for someone to be able to interrupt my AS. My AS after activation takes 1 - 2 sec (whats the exact number there?) this means that I can get interrupted, by as little as 1 dmg.

So no matter what I do, even though I cap my stealth 9 times out of 10 if not 10 out of 10, I will be interrupted, assuming the other players know what they are doing.

Some people say, well you have to wait for the right moment and so on. And I do. I did manage a few kills on the heroes last night, using AS. But in the end, the fact that no matter what I do, I can in the end be seen. And a stalker out of hide is.. Well cannon fodder.

Should note that im basing my view on last nights fighting. And I didn't have anyone in the team with grant invis, so I was not at stealth cap.

Other then that, great event, a few flaws but nothing major. It was a real good fun Love to see more of that in the future.

[/ QUOTE ]

this isnt the right place to say it but it's relevant to the quotes why use AS in the first place? if u no you'll b seen its like sitting nexxt to some1 and asking for a slap, even when seen if u have hide bonus ur guaranteed a crit which will do massive dmg, just go with that and follow it up with a couple of attacks, u dont have to kill them in 1 hit, AS has its uses, in a team with a good empath it has none

imo the only difference on the night was experience, 3 of the 4 hero teams had PvP experience oozing out of them from S4, international monday fight nights and practises. Retribution and AoW have been fighting each other every night for the last week. With this kind of experience we understand each and every power, how to counter powers, what our powers can and can't do etc.

For example most of the FF MM's clearly had no idea they cud be hit in the bubble or that invul or kin can go through the bubble. Due to this belief they never used an offensive bubble power, detention field is awesome and i neever saw it used. Also a villain was complaining about blasters beating stalkers in melee, with this kind of lack of knowledge loosing is inevitable.

it is my opinion that a villain team can be very good an i no a few guys including myself who will make a villain team for the next tournament to try to show this

[ QUOTE ]
Congratulations to AoW (only team to be us) and was it Team Redemption (?) for of course coming first. I'm looking forward to more pentad events in the future.

[/ QUOTE ]

Check my sig for the team name

defo want some more pentad events, was brilliant think some of us will play villains next time to try and even it out a little

[ QUOTE ]

My advice to Any given villan group is to try things with heroes (arena) on maybe a weekly basis. fun/freindly team games that the heros side can offer comments back to what was working well, and why. - this way you can find out what really does/doesnt do well in area and build from it from there.

[/ QUOTE ]

said brilliantly, i wud be more than happy to help out any villain teams that want to do this

[ QUOTE ]
As I stated in my post, I personally do NOT believe the villains are equal in skill to heroes. I however don't share your beliefs that it comes down to skill alone, and I do think there is a balance issue in play as well. Regardless, even if there is no balance issue and it does come down completely to skill, the leagues should still be divided accordingly. You don't let "clumsy villains" start off against "elite heroes". I am NOT the only one that was bothered by this, I can guarantee you.

[/ QUOTE ]

as nothing like this has been done since S4 who wud decide who is "elite" and who is "clumsy"? i dont think many people wud like to be told "imo ur clumsy and will lose so go in this league please"

what wud ur ideal villain pentad team be? think the hardest choice is the corruptor, will b interestin to see what people think

[ QUOTE ]
Fiery Embrace is totally useless when all my fire attacks are Fiery Aura, Burn and Consume
About Build Up, i prefer use hasten to hit more times in ¿1 minute, 2? than build up (dmgx2, acc x2, only 10 sec). I dont see build up essential for tankers, but maybe for brutes its ok

[/ QUOTE ]

fiery embrace affects non-fire attacks too, cant u use both hasten and BU? hasten and BU together and u can down a boss in seconds, if u ever PvP with these u can 2hit any squishy

I am toying with the idea of organising a pentad league on test server, wud basically be a number of weeks with one night of week of all the teams fighting each other, or fight half the teams one week and the other half the next, depending on the number of teams. wud b 3 points for a win, 1 for a draw and 2 if ur opponent doesnt turn up. just want to see how many teams wud b interested, if we can get 6 or more from union, defiant, french and germans i will start planning it and post an update soon, thx

fighting at lvl 50

[ QUOTE ]
I am rather cross at having to wait 75 minutes only to be put up against a hero team in the first round, a team comprised of lvl 50s with dedicated pvp builds. That was NOT what I signed up for and the predictably one sided match that resulted was no fun whatsoever for anyone on the villain side.

While I applaud the fact that you bothered to even attempt to organise this tournament, it seriously didn't work out as a fun thing for villains to do. I was expecting a bit of a laugh, to have a fair fight with fellow villains, but to get ganked for target practice by a well honed hero team in the first round was just lame.



[/ QUOTE ]

there was no 1st round, there were two tables due to uneven numbers caused by teams dropping out, u had the chance to fight at least 2 other villain teams as well as hero teams, if u lost then pick yourself up, learn from it and come back for more fights nobody wud b good at PvP if they lost and never came back, every team has lost at some point

i think the organisers deserve a lot of credit for adapting when teams didnt turn up and for organising it in the first place, i no i wouldnt want to organise something of this magnitude and not take part, well done guys

i seen a couple of villains moaning (even about how a blaster can beat a stalker, i mean if a blaster isnt damagin wots it got left? ) but i gotta say well done to the organisers. yeah it didnt go as planned, but this was largely done to teams not turning up, dropping out etc and i think u adapted well

was a very good and fun event, thx to every1 that participated was an awesome night of PvP with some of the best matches i've ever played

looks good to me mate, only thing is u may need to boost acc to 2 instead of 1 in some of the powers but u can play around with that to see how often u miss

edit: change the enh is combat jumping to jump rather than end red, its end cost is minimal and the jump enh will make a huge amount of difference

where is Fiery Embrace and Build Up?

yeah i've never experienced conserve power without hasten so can imagine it wud b a nightmare without, i went fitness, leaping, fighting and super speed pools on my fire tank, wish i had got fear in there now and will do with a respec, thinking about it tough like u say probably isn't needed as no1 really pays any attention to a tank in team battles

i personally think the best thing about fire primary is fiery embrace but with ice it really wudnt help much, with fire, stone, energy or ss secondary its amazing but as u have little to no damage, like u say, i'd focus completely on slows which i will do on x-treme when he gets a respec. frost is amazing in PvP, use that as ur main attack when its rechargd

i thought about going through what i wud change but thought it wud just be easier to show u what build i wud have:

---------------------------------------------
Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
---------------------------------------------
Name:
Level: 50
Archetype: Tanker
Primary: Fiery Aura
Secondary: Ice Melee
---------------------------------------------
01) --> Fire Shield==> DmgRes(1)DmgRes(3)DmgRes(3)EndRdx(5)
01) --> Frozen Fists==> Slow(1)Slow(31)Acc(48)
02) --> Healing Flames==> Heal(2)Heal(5)Heal(7)Rechg(7)Rechg(9)Rechg(9)
04) --> Taunt==> Rechg(4)Rechg(11)Rechg(11)Taunt(13)Taunt(13)
06) --> Ice Sword==> Slow(6)Slow(31)Acc(48)Acc(48)
08) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(8)Jump(15)
10) --> Frost==> Slow(10)Slow(23)Acc(25)Acc(25)Dmg(46)Dmg(46)
12) --> Plasma Shield==> DmgRes(12)DmgRes(15)DmgRes(17)EndRdx(17)
14) --> Super Jump==> Jump(14)
16) --> Hurdle==> Jump(16)Jump(23)
18) --> Health==> Heal(18)Heal(19)Heal(19)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20)EndMod(21)EndMod(21)
22) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(22)
24) --> Kick==> Acc(24)
26) --> Tough==> DmgRes(26)DmgRes(27)DmgRes(27)EndRdx(29)
28) --> Freezing Touch==> Acc(28)Acc(29)Rechg(40)Rechg(43)Hold(45)Hold(45)
30) --> Provoke==> Acc(30)Acc(31)Rechg(34)Rechg(36)Taunt(50)
32) --> Intimidate==> Fear(32)Fear(33)Acc(33)Acc(33)Rechg(34)Rechg(34)
35) --> Greater Ice Sword==> Acc(35)Acc(36)Slow(36)Slow(37)Dmg(37)Dmg(37)
38) --> Build Up==> Rechg(38)Rechg(39)Rechg(39)TH_Buf(39)TH_Buf(40)TH_Buf(40)
41) --> Focused Accuracy==> EndRdx(41)EndRdx(42)EndRdx(42)TH_Buf(42)TH_Buf(43)TH_Buf(43)
44) --> Conserve Power==> Rechg(44)Rechg(45)Rechg(46)
47) --> Ice Patch==> Rechg(47)
49) --> Blazing Aura==> EndRdx(49)EndRdx(50)EndRdx(50)
---------------------------------------------
01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Gauntlet==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
---------------------------------------------


wasnt really sure on last 2 powers so pick what u like there really, i went BU purely for accuracy buff, post any questions on my power choices mate

i agree with knight stalker and sgt completely, i don't see the logic in fighting at 37

like sgt said there is a huge difference between 37 and 32, the 32s will get destroyed whereas there really isnt much difference between 38 and 40

[ QUOTE ]
In most builds this is a key power. (MoG, Elude, Total Focus, Shocking Grasp to name a few).

[/ QUOTE ] i cant emphasis this enough, energy blasters and tanks without total focus?

*sigh* this was shaping up to be great fun

u do realise u can enter 38-40 if you're under 38 right?

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Based on the description "boosts all secondair effects of powers", defence of CJ (imm/def), hover (fly/def) should be boosted too, though weird aid self is boosted too while the healing is the primairy effect of the power (secondair is confuse resist?). But for the epic shields, they dont have a primairy and secondairy effect except i would say FoN and Hibernate.

[/ QUOTE ]Healing is a secondary effect, the only primary effect is damage.

[/ QUOTE ]

not arguing with u but i've never understood the logic behind this how can healing from one power, that just heals and nothing else, be a secondary effect of the power?

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
u get told what the buff/debuff effect of the mission will be when u select it

[/ QUOTE ]

Really? I've never seen this...will look closer next time. (I know it tells you what sort of buff/debuff it is, but I've never been able to see numbers)

[/ QUOTE ]

u dont get numbers just what the effect will be

thx again to the french guys who joined in last night with some great battles, the 3man match was crazy and particular thx to brice for bringing his mum

u get told what the buff/debuff effect of the mission will be when u select it

oi less of the "little"

was great fun cheers everyone, well done for the manic organisation ks, the 3man battle was awesome

ur zone buffs/de-buffs appear by ur other icons (inherent, stamina, toggles etc), just right click on it to find out what they're doing

Bonnie Tyler
I Need A Hero, as my poor empath is running for his life as spines, ice blasts and the cats mother attempt to take his poor innocent life just for trying to save some peoples lives

[ QUOTE ]
I say take the challenge from defients just so you can be knocked down a peg or 2, it may do you good so you can actually start to show people respect.. and respect my freind is what makes people admire, be freindly with, and want to train/raid/arena with you.

[/ QUOTE ]

well said, i have no experience of base raiding but for me the huge main difference between the arena and zones is respect.

and i would take a challenge from anyone no matter what the odds as u can only get better by playing a better opponent and i take far more away from losing than winning as it gives u something to think about and improve upon